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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

sanman said:
And Israel doesn't even have a CONSTITUTION - and it never has - which is absolutely ridiculous for a country that claims to be a "Western democracy"
That in itself is disqualifying.
Those who say "but Israel is like us" need to think again.

Are you even aware that Israel doesn't have a constitution?? Do you understand the importance of having a constitution for a country?
Maybe @ASHES or @reinaert or @Allan will tell me that none of that matters, and that anybody who says otherwise is a pedo.
If that doesn't even matter to you, then you're saying something about yourselves.
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No, all I would say is don't defend Scott Ritter.

My only abiding opinion about Israel is that it's a client state and needs to be reminded of such often enough to stay in the client pasture.
 
jaypatriot said:
It appears you are against Israel losing a war with Iran.
You don't like seeing small countries fighting against existential threats from larger countries with a larger army and more ballistic missiles?
If so, where is your sense of values?
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You realize there’s more than a thousand miles and three countries between Israel and Iran, right? How exactly does Iran having a larger army matter?
 
gman said:
Just checked all major news and none are reporting it.
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I'm seeing it on social media, and all of these preliminary reports have come within the past 5 minutes or so. Need time to confirm, but if it's true, it could be Iranian sympathizers in Iraq, as opposed to anything directly requested/ordered by Tehran. It still would not be a good development for Iran because they would be blamed regardless.
 
jaypatriot said:
I don't know who you think is fixing what for whom.
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You don't need to qualify his lack of geopolitical accumen to the middle East. It's all of it.
 
Chomsky said:
Well - when you jump into the middle of an ongoing conversation, it wouldn't hurt to at least know the post being replied to in your subject post, so you can understand the post you in turn will be replying to.
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I have to disagree, my friend. I think any post should pretty much stand on its own. If you are responding to a post, that post is generally referenced within the post. If one has to go beyond the post being responded to to understand it, then someone is being lazy in posting. Just my 2 cents.
 
Questerr said:
I’m pointing out that unless Iran has developed teleportation, their larger army is no threat to Israel.
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Their nuke program is a threat, though. Imagine it's 2023 and Iran has 50-100 nuclear tipped missiles. Israel's options would be limited to going after Iran's proxies and very limited in terms of what they could do to Iran directly.
 
multivita-man said:
Their nuke program is a threat, though. Imagine it's 2023 and Iran has 50-100 nuclear tipped missiles. Israel's options would be limited to going after Iran's proxies and very limited in terms of what they could do to Iran directly.
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Which nuclear states nuke other nuclear states?
 
Questerr said:
I’m pointing out that unless Iran has developed teleportation, their larger army is no threat to Israel.
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You're such an expert in military matters you can blithely state a hostile nation, dedicated to destroying Israel, with an army of 420,000 is no threat to Israel?



Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Wikipedia​


The regular armed forces have an estimated 420,000 personnel: the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Ground Forces with 350,000, of which 220,000 are conscripts; the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy
 
Chomsky said:
That's a bit of a grey area, though. While technically true, Israel does have "Basic Law", which acts as a pseudo-constitution of sorts.
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Out of curiosity, have you ever read the "Basic Law"?

I was going to put some of the conversation in context, but I found a paragraph on Wikipedia that does it for me:

"The Basic Laws were intended to be draft chapters of a future Israeli constitution,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Laws_of_Israel#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> which has been postponed since 1950; they act as a de facto constitution until their future incorporation into a formal, unitary, written constitution.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Laws_of_Israel#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> Israel is one of six countries (along with New Zealand, San Marino, Saudi Arabia, Canada, and the United Kingdom) that operate entirely or in part according to an uncodified constitution consisting of both material constitutional law (based upon cases and precedents), common law, and the provisions of these formal statutes."

I asked the question, because the it often seems the Israeli government doesn't know what's in them...
 
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jaypatriot said:
You're such an expert in military matters you can blithely state a hostile nation, dedicated to destroying Israel, with an army of 420,000 is no threat to Israel?



Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Wikipedia​


The regular armed forces have an estimated 420,000 personnel: the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Ground Forces with 350,000, of which 220,000 are conscripts; the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy
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Because you're confusing internet hyperbole for Tehran's actual mode of action?
 
multivita-man said:
Their nuke program is a threat, though. Imagine it's 2023 and Iran has 50-100 nuclear tipped missiles. Israel's options would be limited to going after Iran's proxies and very limited in terms of what they could do to Iran directly.
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Okay, but thats a goalpost move. The post I was replying to specifically spoke about Iran’s larger army.
 
jaypatriot said:
You're such an expert in military matters you can blithely state a hostile nation, dedicated to destroying Israel, with an army of 420,000 is no threat to Israel?



Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces - Wikipedia​


The regular armed forces have an estimated 420,000 personnel: the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Ground Forces with 350,000, of which 220,000 are conscripts; the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy
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I can definitively state their *ARMY* is no threat to Israel because Iran has no way to get their army to Israel.
 
reinaert said:
Which nuclear states nuke other nuclear states?
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I don't think the danger is a nuclear exchange, but I think Iran would feel more emboldened in terms of what they can do to destabilize Israel.
 
reinaert said:
Because you're confusing internet hyperbole for Tehran's actual mode of action?
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I am not in the country where millions of Israeli cities are hunkering underground while the country that threatens to destroy them is attacking them with hundreds of drones and ballistic missiles.
Do you call that Internet hyperbole or an actual mode of action?
 
Questerr said:
You realize there’s more than a thousand miles and three countries between Israel and Iran, right? How exactly does Iran having a larger army matter?
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More targets?
 
This might explain why Netanyahu & his Defense Minister are in an underground bunker:

Iran rains missiles on Israel, hits its Defense Ministry headquarters in Tel Aviv in retaliatory strikes - The Economic Times

Tensions escalate in the Middle East as Iran launches a retaliatory operation, True Promise III firing hundreds of ballistic missiles at Israel following Israeli airstrikes on Iranian military and nuclear sites. Explosions rocked Tel Aviv, with air raid sirens blaring across the country. Some...
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