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A 1 day old baby is viable. A 9 week pregnancy is not
A 1 day old baby is viable. A 9 week pregnancy is notask them - its not my argument and don't try and wrap me up in it
I'm using biology 101 a normal pregnancy HAS to have a living unborn and a living mother
that's fact
is a 1 day old baby is deserving of life, then 1 day before is as well - its the same living human isn't it ? there truly is no difference is there ?
trueThe mother was brain dead
10 or 11 weeks I think yesand the fetus only 9 weeks gestation.
then you'd have been killing ChanceThey should be allowed to disconnect her from artificial life.
she wasn't dead - stop repeating that liberal media lie. If she was dead, the baby would have died tooIf you think they should try to save a 9 week embryo then create the tech that allows it independently from the DEAD mother.
A 1 day old baby is viable. A 9 week pregnancy is not
Actually, it does. If a 9 week gestation cannot survive outside the womb, it cannot survive. A 1 day born baby can survive outside the womb.viability doesn't define a living human being
every time someone gets put on a ventilator .... are they dead and no longer alive ?
Ideally its up to the individual in question to make that determination for themselves, such as through advanced directives and such. Barring that, the decision belongs to the legal next of kin.killing human life should be up to the family? this family never requested she be taken off machines and later her baby boy was delivered, the family got a grandson, a son, a nephew, a 1st cousin .... wonderful isn't it ?
Very relevant, especially to the family.what relevancy is "negative outcomes" ?
If not, the legal next of kin makes the decisions.did she have a medical power of attorney set up ?
Yes, she was dead. Brain death is equivalent to biological death in medicine and the law.stop that liberal left lie please - she wasn't dead. If she was, the baby would have died too. YOU KNOW THIS ... why continue to spread the lie ?
Viability defines when a fetus is capable of survival outside the womb. "Human being" is irrelevant.viability doesn't define a living human being
every time someone gets put on a ventilator .... are they dead and no longer alive ?
Actually, it does. If a 9 week gestation cannot survive outside the womb, it cannot survive. A 1 day born baby can survive outside the womb.
Are you one of those that thinks a miscarriage can be stopped?
I never cease to be amazed at the same handful of “men” constantly whining and complaining about child support.
It really is quite pathetic.
You can’t put a 9 week embryo on a ventilator. Also, Smith was on more than a ventilator. She was brain dead which means machines had to operate all of her organsviability doesn't define a living human being
every time someone gets put on a ventilator .... are they dead and no longer alive ?
You do realize she was brain dead…not just on a ventilator.so a person on a ventilator (not viable) is a dead person, that's what you're saying ? of course it isn't, you know it, I know it
Viability doesn't fully define "living life" because it is just one characteristic among many that distinguish living organisms from non-living things. Viability means the ability to survive, grow, and develop
Biology 101
The above is why doctors can operate on unborn babies in the womb - they're not "dead" they are very much living human beings. Surely you can see that
I don't know what you are asking on miscarriages, which is an unborn living human dying in the womb and the pregnancy ending.
So then you do in fact believe the mother's life has more value than the fetus's life.
pro-abortion talks choice and after the pregnancy the woman should have the ability to choose to walk away from the pregnancy by having the unborn killed
yet at the same time they want the man to have zero choices at all. If the man doesn't want the baby at all, why can't he choose to never financially support it? His money, his life, his choice right? its a big burden to financially be shackled like that and the impacts on a man's life.
I think BOTH need to be held to the consequences of their choices/actions. Most pro-abortion people don't, they want women freedom to choose and men have no choice at all
trueYou can’t put a 9 week embryo on a ventilator.
Also, Smith was on more than a ventilator. She was brain dead which means machines had to operate all of her organs
You made the choice to get someone pregnant when you had sex.our money our choices right? if a man didn't want the baby why should be be shackled with the responsibility? it'll impact his career/college/job choices, it'll get in the way of game night, golfing and partying, it'll get in the way of his current GF's and maybe he has other kids and that financial drains will really impact them. He should have a choice right ??
Viability does decide life. Viability does not refer to someone born.. it refers to pre birth stages.true
also true
now ...
so a person on a ventilator (not viable) is a dead person, that's what you're saying ? of course it isn't, you know it, I know it
Viability doesn't fully define "living life" because it is just one characteristic among many that distinguish living organisms from non-living things. Viability means the ability to survive, grow, and develop
Biology 101
The above is why doctors can operate on unborn babies in the womb - they're not "dead" they are very much living human beings. Surely you can see that
choices and decisions in life has consequences don't they ?It would be nice if she could walk away from a pregnancy consequence-free, but she cant...dont lie.
except society DOES decide for women ..... and we don't let women have their unborn babies killed in many states, restrictions in many otherShe cannot escape her consequences, remember? These are the only outcomes and some arent even "choices."
--have a kid
--have a miscarriage
--have an abortion
--die during pregnancy/childbirth
Too bad that you dont get to decide for women eh?,decisions that change their entire lives, their bodies, can cost their health and even their lives, eh? I'm thankful that you cant and I'm sure all the other women are too.
she's irrelevant to his ability to choose right? pro-abortion people want choice to get out of the pregnancies they've created isn't that true? why not allow men to walk away ?I've asked you this already...did the man know she has that decision before he decided to sleep with her? Yes. Then why is HIS OWN DECISION her fault? Please explain?
She is so then of course, so should he.
Viability does decide life. Viability does not refer to someone born.. it refers to pre birth stages.
Deadbeats gonna deadbeat.our money our choices right? if a man didn't want the baby why should be be shackled with the responsibility? it'll impact his career/college/job choices, it'll get in the way of game night, golfing and partying, it'll get in the way of his current GF's and maybe he has other kids and that financial drains will really impact them. He should have a choice right ??
She was born already so the medical term isn’t viable or not. Its alive or dead and the chances of survival of a critical injury. She was brain dead which means she’s deaddo we agree this woman wasn't viable ?
f'in BINGO !!!! the man and the woman made choices and now, they gotta live with the consequences of those choicesYou made the choice to get someone pregnant when you had sex.
hey, you're pro-abortion right? all I'm doing is showing you either both the man and the woman should have the choice to walk away from the pregnancy or NEITHER should be able toShackled? So, living children aren’t valuable? Only embryos right? How is paying $500 and never lifting a finger to care for a child shackled?
She was born already so the medical term isn’t viable or not. Its alive or dead and the chances of survival of a critical injury. She was brain dead which means she’s dead
Im not pro abortion Im pro mind your own ****ing business when it comes to pregnancy. Its your side that likes to send born children to suffer and die…not minef'in BINGO !!!! the man and the woman made choices and now, they gotta live with the consequences of those choices
hey, you're pro-abortion right? all I'm doing is showing you either both the man and the woman should have the choice to walk away from the pregnancy or NEITHER should be able to
siding with the woman having a choice and the man none is hypocritical as I've clearly shown
BOTH should be responsible
Deadbeats gonna deadbeat.
What would happen if the machine was turned off?so a dead woman carried a baby in her womb for 4 months is what you're saying
you absolutely know this isn't possible right? again we go back to a pregnancy - it HAS to have a living mother and a living unborn - it cannot be any other way. Its biologically impossible
Um mother’s don’t just walk away financially either. They also have to pay child support if not primary care giverwell what we can do (because we cannot force women to me mothers and men to be fathers)
is 10 months for the women to give birth and then walk away
18 years for the man to financially be responsible
that's the best we can do
Electing men who cheat on their (multiple) wives is apparently the direction this country is headed. Sowell what we can do (because we cannot force women to me mothers and men to be fathers)
is 10 months for the women to give birth and then walk away
18 years for the man to financially be responsible
that's the best we can do
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