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Going to avoid the GOAT argument, but in my observations, Bill Belichek doesn’t seem to enjoy what he is doing. I have nothing other than paying attention to his demeanor at pressers and how he acts on the sidelines to form my opinion.
I am a Cardinals fan....not much to root for over my 35 plus years of fandom. A few great players, and a few decent years, but not one super bowl. We had one appearance, and got beat by a good Steelers team. Fitzgerald to me is one of the classiest players to ever grace the field, and I would have loved for him to have won just one ring.
What the patriots have accomplished to me is amazing. I know there have been other great teams....the Jordan Bulls, the Cowboys of past, the Steelers, the Canadians of hockey, and of course the Yankees.
I guess the closest I can come to their accomplishments is Bill Russell from the Celtics, who imo is the greatest team player ever to grace a field or court. He won a lot of rings, with a number of different teammates over the years....similar to what Brady is accomplishing now.
Is he the GOAT....are they both in their respective positions? I dunno....but I know they are definitely in the discussion....and if not, there arent many ahead.
They are a great duo... are they the greatest? Not sure... they are in the argument though.
IMO... Brady has won the most but is not the greatest QB. Take out Eddelman (Sp?) ONE GUY, and Brady probably loses that game.
Brady was the greatest QB after he beat the Falcons. It really isn't much of a debate anymore.
Take out Edelman? The Patriots traded their best WR to the Rams, Brandin Cooks and he failed. The guy who replaced Cooks in Josh Flash Gordon is in rehab.
Who is Edelman btw? A seventh round draft pick QB that was converted to WR. Brady is simply amazing.
Better than Brady?
Rogers
Young
Elway
Montana
and Maybe
Brees
probably some others too...
:lamo
How good would Brady be if he threw 8+ seasons to Jerry Rice?
And John Elway? His playoff stats are terrible! He didn't win until the Broncos had a HOF RB.
If Rogers were on these Pat teams with Bill coaching he would have 8 rings... instead Brady only has 6.
Put Brady on the Packers and he would have zero rings...
Brady was the greatest QB after he beat the Falcons. It really isn't much of a debate anymore.
Take out Edelman? The Patriots traded their best WR to the Rams, Brandin Cooks and he failed. The guy who replaced Cooks in Josh Flash Gordon is in rehab.
Who is Edelman btw? A seventh round draft pick QB that was converted to WR. Brady is simply amazing.
Better than Brady?
Rogers
Young
Elway
Montana
and Maybe
Brees
probably some others too...
I dont think Brady would be anywhere without Belichick. He created and made Brady what he is today. Consider Brady wasnt even a top recruit in the draft. Nobody wanted him.
If Rogers were on these Pat teams with Bill coaching he would have 8 rings... instead Brady only has 6.
Put Brady on the Packers and he would have zero rings...
Results matter. There is no one better
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"Getting to see Tom Brady again is always a special day, but the Patriots are amazing. Six-time champs," fan Lauren Mills said, adding that she still hasn't had her fill. Her message to Brady: "Go for No. 7. He still has how many fingers left? You know, four more rings to go."
I dont think Brady would be anywhere without Belichick. He created and made Brady what he is today. Consider Brady wasnt even a top recruit in the draft. Nobody wanted him.
Agreed... and when Brady was out every back-up looked like and played like an NFL MVP. Brady was just a tool for Bill.
I am a Cardinals fan....not much to root for over my 35 plus years of fandom. A few great players, and a few decent years, but not one super bowl. We had one appearance, and got beat by a good Steelers team. Fitzgerald to me is one of the classiest players to ever grace the field, and I would have loved for him to have won just one ring.
What the patriots have accomplished to me is amazing. I know there have been other great teams....the Jordan Bulls, the Cowboys of past, the Steelers, the Canadians of hockey, and of course the Yankees.
I guess the closest I can come to their accomplishments is Bill Russell from the Celtics, who imo is the greatest team player ever to grace a field or court. He won a lot of rings, with a number of different teammates over the years....similar to what Brady is accomplishing now.
Is he the GOAT....are they both in their respective positions? I dunno....but I know they are definitely in the discussion....and if not, there arent many ahead.
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