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How many times are you to try and play this card? I'm not a partisan, I don't have party interests in mind, I'm an independent, I have standards, holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid as if its going to make me back track or recant my statement because I don't want to criticize a liberal isn't going to work.
But ya kinda like that sergeant, it is sergeant right?
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Can you post some examples of people who call the parents of soldiers who died in combat "scum," "unamerican," "pink commies" or something similar?In 2004 his son was killed in Iraq by a sniper and Carlos attempted to commit suicide by burning himself alive with a can of gasoline. Later on he became passionately anti-war, he's what many of you would describe as a liberal who thinks we should have never invaded Iraq and it was done as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11.
This topic isn't attempting to paint all liberals as selfless heroes or all conservatives as violent offenders, I'm making it in the hopes that some of the folks here who often try to dehumanize people they disagree with as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" you get the idea will remember what was demonstrated here.
Can you post some examples of people who call the parents of soldiers who died in combat "scum," "unamerican," "pink commies" or something similar?
...I'm making it in the hopes that some of the folks here who often try to dehumanize people they disagree with as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" you get the idea...
Seems rather obvious to me that people with different political views "can be really stand-up people in many other respects" - but if you find this to be some great insight, I'm glad you learned something. :shrug:Essentially, what he's saying, is "don't be a douchebag to folks whose ideas you might disagree with, because they might be really stand-up people in many other respects".
I think he makes a great point.
How many times are you to try and play this card? I'm not a partisan, I don't have party interests in mind, I'm an independent, I have standards, holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid as if its going to make me back track or recant my statement because I don't want to criticize a liberal isn't going to work.
But ya kinda like that sergeant, it is sergeant right?
Seems rather obvious to me that people with different political views "can be really stand-up people in many other respects" - but if you find this to be some great insight...
I'm glad you learned something.
Since you missed it:
I haven't been a member here long enough to know whether or not we have members who are the parents of soldiers who died in combat, and if so whether or not other members have refered to those parents as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie", or etc...
But the OP isn't specifically discussing the parents of soldiers who died in combat, or their treatment here.
Rather, he refers more generally to "people [we] disagree with".
Further, he isn't limiting use of epithets to "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" specifically. He was just using them as examples, which is evidenced by his following that list with the phrase "you get the idea".
Essentially, what he's saying, is "don't be a douchebag to folks whose ideas you might disagree with, because they might be really stand-up people in many other respects".
I think he makes a great point.
It's a good message, one I hope is universally carried along by people. Unfortunatenly, I don't have much faith in humanity or the general public that talk about politics. It won't be long before the usual suspects on the left are proclaiming a tea partier an bigoted fascist idiot or the usual suspects on the right proclaiming an anti-war proponent unamerican commie scum.
Why not call A tea partier a "bigoted fascist idiot" if they happen to be one? You see that capitalised letter "A"? It is intended to mean ONE individual, not all members of a group.
It is the Conservatives who I see attacking groups because of the actions of ONE person who happens to be a member of said group. It is yet one more example of the binary thinking, the "either/or", the "MY way or the Highway" pattern of thought so often exhibited by our modern American right.
Have you ever criticized a liberal?
I doubt it, that's why this thread is another veiled attack on the Right.
It's just an example I used to make a point, if it makes it easier to understand than remove any mention of politics from the story and you have a guy who was beat and utterly disrespected for what he believed in, probably called Un-American, but when things really got bad he acted like a hero. The idea of the topic is to try and encourage people to not focus so much on the political differences that they don't see anything else, we don't need to dehumanize each other for our politics because when things really matter we're all on the same side. And when we focus on that positive aspect a little more it hopefully will reduce the amount of out right angry and sometimes I think hatred and goes for "political discourse" in this country.
The guy should never have been beaten, that's a given. However, his actions at the Boston tragedy do not say anything, or ameliorate his actions elsewhere.
Its not about "making up for something" that's the wrong kind of attitude to have, its about trying to view people you may have many political differences with is a more positive light by remembering the things we all have in common.
Its not about "making up for something" that's the wrong kind of attitude to have, its about trying to view people you may have many political differences with is a more positive light by remembering the things we all have in common.
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