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Black People Should Vote For The GOP

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when you call every post that takes issue with the racist bullshit you spew, a "meltdown", no one will take your claims seriously. On the affirmative racism thread, you called every post you disagreed with a "meltdown"

Why do you blacks overwhelmingly support the part of slavery and Jim Crow?
The ideology of the parties changed over time as I’m sure you well know. It’s why, for example, Democrats want to tear down statues of Confederates and why Republicans fight to keep them up.
 
Of course they can... but the issue is that as a demographic they keep voting for the party that doesn't help them. Why is that? That is the question.
Perhaps black people vote for the Dems because they are objectively better at governing the country rather than for what Dems might specifically do for the benefit of the black community.
 
Perhaps black people vote for the Dems because they are objectively better at governing the country rather than for what Dems might specifically do for the benefit of the black community.

Is that why Democrats destroyed the black family unit?

 

Biden approval no better among African Americans than total voters.

If I had to guess, it would be the lack of Federal action on any of the BLM agenda.
Again, WTF?
Trump's judicial appointments reflect a serious lack of diversity
https://www.usatoday.com ›
Jul 3, 2020 — None of his 53 confirmed appeals court judges is Black. Not a single one. That makes Donald Trump the first president since Richard Nixon to ...

October 27, 2017
"Having shepherded Gorsuch to Supreme Court confirmation, Leo is working with the White House to install strict conservative jurists throughout the lower federal courts,.."

Nomination of Robert Luck to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the ...

joined by family in condo tied to ...
https://abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
Mar 31, 2018 — ... Pruitt joined by family in condo tied to lobbyist 'power couple'. Pruitt's daughter also used a room in the condo, ABC News has learned. -snip-

Newsweek
Of Biden's 40 Confirmed Federal Judges, 80 Percent Are Women, 53 Percent People of Color
Biden has now nominated 75 judges to take up positions on federal courts around the country, the largest number of appointments made by a...
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1 week ago

White House builds bridges with one of Black community's ...​

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Oct 26, 2021 — Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during a meeting with the ... Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. (and Harris' sorority sister), says Biden ...

Fellow Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority sisters watch Kamala ...​

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Jan 21, 2021 — Biden is now the First Lady and then to see that Vice President Kamala Harris is in there at the same time is one of those moments where it's ...
 
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Do you think kids should be raised on social dependency?
Should those kids be raised with Zero social safety net compared to those who have never wanted for anything. Stephen Asshole is impossible to listen to on sports, let alone anything else.
 
Should those kids be raised with Zero social safety net compared to those who have never wanted for anything. Stephen Asshole is impossible to listen to on sports, let alone anything else.

Who said they shouldn't be helped? I pointed out a very serious problem that liberals like yourself don't have any answers to.

So you revert to attacking any and all messengers instead of offering remedies to the problem.
 
Do you think kids should be raised on social dependency?
Please expound! Are all 165,500,000 lazy, "takers"?

Most recent nine months.... the crumbs IN TOTAL for 165 million are less than 50 percent of the 9 month INCREASE of 3 million residents
who happen to own and control the political system they finance the elections of. They literally voted themselves a permanent corporate tax cut from a 35 percent top rate to just 22 percent.

The wealthiest 10% of Americans own a record 89% of all U.S. ...​

https://www.cnbc.com › 2021/10/18 › the-wealthiest-10...
Oct 18, 2021 — "The bottom 90% of Americans held about 11% of stocks, and added $1.2 trillion in wealth during the Covid-19 pandemic."

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Bruce M. Boghosian is a professor of mathematics at Tufts University, with research interests in applied dynamical systems and applied probability theory.
November 1, 2019
"..The mathematical models also call attention to the enormous extent to which wealth distribution is caused by symmetry breaking, chance and early advantage (from, for example, inheritance). And the presence of symmetry breaking puts paid to arguments for the justness of wealth inequality that appeal to “voluntariness”—the notion that individuals bear all responsibility for their economic outcomes simply because they enter into transactions voluntarily—or to the idea that wealth accumulation must be the result of cleverness and industriousness. It is true that an individual's location on the wealth spectrum correlates to some extent with such attributes, but the overall shape of that spectrum can be explained to better than 0.33 percent by a statistical model that completely ignores them. Luck plays a much more important role than it is usually accorded, so that the virtue commonly attributed to wealth in modern society—and, likewise, the stigma attributed to poverty—is completely unjustified.

Moreover, only a carefully designed mechanism for redistribution can compensate for the natural tendency of wealth to flow from the poor to the rich in a market economy. Redistribution is often confused with taxes, but the two concepts ought to be kept quite separate. Taxes flow from people to their governments to finance those governments' activities. Redistribution, in contrast, may be implemented by governments, but it is best thought of as a flow of wealth from people to people to compensate for the unfairness inherent in market economics. In a flat redistribution scheme, all those possessing wealth below the mean would receive net funds, whereas those above the mean would pay. And precisely because current levels of inequality are so extreme, far more people would receive than would pay..."
 
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Please expound! Are all 165,500,000 lazy, "takers"?

Most recent nine months.... the crumbs IN TOTAL for 165 million are less than 20 percent of the 9 month INCREASE of 3 million residents
who happen to own and control the political system they finance the elections of.

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There ya go as usual. Injecting words and terms that I didn't use.

72% of black children are born into single parent homes and most often in poverty.

Where is the liberal answer to this outside of attacking the messenger?
 
I don’t think anyone should vote for the GOP let alone black people.
 
The strongest argument for how black people should vote is that one party wants to protect their access to voting (thereby giving them a seat at the table), whereas the other party continues to pass election laws that weakens their ability to vote, and therefore their voice in crafting policy.

And the fact is that if you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu.
 
what I am looking forward to is the conflict that invariably will take place when some Dem districts see Latinos as the dominant Dem voting bloc-resenting the "most favored minority" label remaining with the blacks. It has already started happening in some areas where Latinos resent the Dems giving nominations and political patronage jobs to blacks instead of latinos, even though the Latinos are supplying more votes to the Dems
This is the hot potato that no one wants to discuss.

In the coming decades, it is even possible that the Democratic Party will become the party of African Americans, and the Republican Party, the party of Hispanic Americans.

Those people who think that America will become a Utopia after Caucasians eventually become a small minority are, IMHO, being overly optimistic.
 
People seem not to realize, black people have been self invested in political awareness for 100's of years. We had to be!!! because it was politics that backed the atrocities that devastated black people in all areas of society.
Black people have a long history of knowing how to discern who is who among white men, who have dominated politics for centuries, Not like white people they don't scrutinize white men in politics in the ways that black people do. (It was life or death matters when it came to black people being responsible of how to summarize and discern when it comes to white men, and black people had to do it quickly). White people had media telling them what "image they should accept of white men". Black people were not so concerned about the "public image" but the moral and principled character and the respect for person as individual, that has always been a keen observation when it comes to black people choosing a candidate.

We watched Trump build his 99.5% white dominated Administration, we watched Republican embrace every race hate group, and history has always shown the Right Wing Evangelical were the embraces of the KKK since their very first inception as a race hate group. Some of those people attacked blacks, hung black and filled police departments with white people who used the police to enforce segregationist agenda, that was true with the Judicial System. Most of those same types, identify as "Conservatives", "Right Wing Idealist", they are the same people who supported busting of Union's when Civil Rights Act of 1964 made it possible for black to Join Unions and get class and craft pay.
Black people have watched Republican, Conservatives and Right Winger, fight against "minimum wage", ( when minimum wage, is equal to no more than it cost to "house and feed" a slave in modern day dollar valuation". We watched 100 yrs of Jobs be diminished in value, as if they were jobs for black people, and those jobs have historically been referred to as low pay jobs, yet without those jobs being done, society would not be what it is in productive functions.

Republican fight against any program that has any component that helps black people.

Lee Atwater: explained Republican Ideology very clearly:


We see people like Green and Boebert and others, as well as all the Republican people who stormed the Capitol, because they could not respect that black people got out to vote, and white right wing votes did no win the day.

The Republican Party of Today, is NOTHING like the Republican Party that supported the passage of Civil Rights Act of 1964, Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan made damn sure to bring every bigot, segregationist and race bias types they could from the party of former Dixiecrats and embedded them into what is today's Republican Party.

Working Poor and Poor White cling to the Republicanism, when it is Republican Party Ideology that keeps them in the confines as Working Poor and Dire Poor and fight continually to take away any of the much needed benefits that help sustain their lives.

We watch 4 yrs of Trump attack every Department, Division, Agency, Organization and attack our Allied Nations, attacked the U.N. and attack N.A.T.O and then removed use from the W.H.O. in the middle of a Global Pandemic.
We saw Trump Republicans try to stop industry from maintaining safety records, so people hurt on the job would not have historical safety violation records to help them fight for compensation when hurt on the job.
We watched the Trump Republican engage the inhumanity of taking kids from their parents and keeping no records to unite them, (Hitler did that in the 1940's to the Jewish People).
We watched Republican support Trump's insult to the Military Troops, many whom are made up of poor white and poor blacks who often are the first one sent to the front lines of battles, and he call them suckers and losers; and Republican backed and supported it all.
We saw Trump bastardize every agency and department and Republican backed every bit of it.

NOPE, Black people have fought too hard for too long for America's Representative Democracy, to turn and support Republican's Plutocratic Autocracy....
Black people were enslaved under the Plutocratic Autocracy of Slaver's for 100's of years who had the same disregard for humane respect as we see within today's Republican party.
  • America an Americans has suffered tremendously after every Cut to Corporate Tax that Republican's promoted, every time Republican promote Corporate Tax Cuts the National Debt increased 4 fold. None of those Corporate Tax Cuts has ever benefitted working poor whites, poor whites, working poor black and poor blacks.
 
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Of course they can... but the issue is that as a demographic they keep voting for the party that doesn't help them. Why is that? That is the question.
One party continuously tries to disenfranchise them. The southern strategy is at the core of the GOP’s problem with minority outreach. They never ended the program.
 
Is Stephen A right?


Maybe one day the GOP will finally convince Black Americans how wrong they have been for voting for the parties Black Americans think represent their interests.
I wonder why the GOP is having such trouble with their outreach.

Smith says Black Americans lack of support for the GOP is because Democrats have convinced Black Americans ( "hook line and sinker" )
that the GOP doesn't represent them well.
'fonly Black Americans were capable of looking at political parties and their platforms and making reasoned decisions,
then Black Americans wouldn't be so prone to vote for some party other than the GOP, right?


tbf,
It sounds like what Smith'd actually prefer is for the GOP to make legitimate efforts to win the votes of Black Americans.
 
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well ever since FDR, blacks have voted overwhelmingly for the Dems. And as a result, Dems take them for granted and I would note, haven't done much to help

There are some blacks best served by still voting dem. But there are many who are better served voting GOP. and if blacks were "harder to get" then maybe the Dems would do more for them. And if they were willing to vote for the GOP in some cases, maybe the GOP wouldn't-in many cases-write them off
What happened?

You say Black Americans were more often voting for the GOP then something changed and Black Americans stopped voting for the GOP as much.

Why have the GOP given up trying to win back the votes of Black Americans in recent decades?
 
One party continuously tries to disenfranchise them. The southern strategy is at the core of the GOP’s problem with minority outreach. They never ended the program.
Hey now, that doesn’t mean you can’t support your oppressors!
 
Let me make a crude analogy, AGENT J: You are desperately hungry. Almost starving. You only have a single dollar in your pocket. There are only two restaurants in town. You know one of the restaurants that will serve you cold unseasoned oatmeal for a dollar (because they can get away with it), because it is common knowledge that the other restaurant might serve you nothing because they have had exceedingly few customers in decades and neither you or they are sure what they have in the larder at any given time. Whatever they have, they will prepare for you for a dollar, but you have to pay in advance for them to look even if there is nothing there. With that in mind, which would you choose? The restaurant that provides certain if somewhat miserable sustenance, or the one where you might get anything or absolutely nothing at all?
You make the voting decisions of Black Americans sound dire
but quite reasonable.

Smith's advice is that the "desperately hungry" Black Americans give their cash to the unreliable food source.

[ if we take it all at face value ftsoa ]
Your argument has essentially crushed Smith's case.
 
Your racist nonsense is tiring. Why don't you tell me why you and other blacks are basically monolithically democrat voters when it was the democrats who pushed slavery, and Jim Crow.
. . . because The Party of Lincoln flies Confederate flags while tailgating at their political rallies these days?

may not actually be related.
could be just correlation instead of causation
 
Why do you think blacks vote lock step for Democrats?

idk what the exact criteria re for "lockstep" voting

But maybe the Black Americans who vote for Democrats
vote for Democrats because those Black Americans believe Democrats
do a better job of representing the interests of those Black Americans.

That'd be my first guess.
I feel we should rule out this reasonable hypothesis first before we move on to hypotheses with additional entities
 
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