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OSAMA BIN LADEN was killed within 90 seconds of the US Navy Seals landing in his compound and not after a protracted gun battle, according to the first account by the men who carried out the raid. The operation was so clinical that only 12 bullets were fired.
The Seals have spoken out because they were angered at the version given by politicians, which they see as portraying them as cold-blooded murderers on a “kill mission”. They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced bin Laden's death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized.
Chuck Pfarrer, a former commander of Seal Team 6, which conducted the operation, has interviewed many of those who took part for a book, Seal Target Geronimo, to be published in the US this week.
The Seals' own accounts differ from the White House version, which gave the impression that bin Laden was killed at the end of the operation rather than in its opening seconds. Pfarrer insists bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered.
“There isn't a politician in the world who could resist trying to take credit for getting bin Laden but it devalued the 'intel' and gave time for every other al-Qa'ida leader to scurry to another bolthole,” said Pfarrer. “The men who did this and their valorous act deserve better. It's a pretty shabby way to treat these guys.”
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"They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced bin Laden's death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized." That's because they didn't understand it was only about a photo op and a small bump in the polls to Obama.
Islamic law says that a body should be interred in an extremely timely manner. [/url]
I guess that's why Gaddaffi (or however you spell his fricking name) was paraded around in a meat locker for a week.
What would have not announcing his death achieved? The raid wasn't exactly the epitome of subtlety. If you're some AQ guy, and you hear a helicopter has crashed in your bosses house, and he's not answering his phone, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out what happened.
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"They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced bin Laden's death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized." That's because they didn't understand it was only about a photo op and a small bump in the polls to Obama.
Hey. That was big news. Navy SEALS don't get to decide policy. From the accounts I read, I didn't think they were cold-blooded murderers. Intel is intel. Names/locations/yada yada yada. If they had to cancel some nefarious plans, isn't that a good thing?
Besides that, no one knows what actually happened except those who watched the video feed (and that could be somewhat distorted) and the guys who were there. Some guy who "used to be a SEAL" has no credibility to me.
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"They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced bin Laden's death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized." That's because they didn't understand it was only about a photo op and a small bump in the polls to Obama.
Some guy claiming he used to be a SEAL has no credibility.Besides that why one earth would any actual SEAL risk exposing themselves over partisan ****? A whole **** load of terrorists may want revenge and this nut is going to go to the once group of people who could care less about secrecy. So what if some anti-war trash portray the SEAL team as murders. Anti-war trash probably think the whole entire military is a bunch of murderers.So its not really a big deal. Decent Americas appreciate the fact they snuffed out Osama Bin Laden.
Islamic law says that a body should be interred in an extremely timely manner. Can you imagine just how much more people would have doubted Osama was actually deceased had they waited until he had been interred for weeks before releasing the news of his death?
Also, the news of Obama's demise was already being reported by Al Jazeera before Obama made a formal announcement. It is silly to believe Obama's timing would have made any difference in the Intel's usefulness. I'm pretty sure more Al Qaeda operatives watch Al Jazeera than Fox, CNN or MSNBC.
Edited to add this link: A witness account of bin Laden's death - Asia - Al Jazeera English
they had to announce it immediately because they lost a helicopter inside Pakistan and the mission wasn't greenlighted by the government of Pakistan. within a day, it would have been worldwide news.
Hey. That was big news. Navy SEALS don't get to decide policy. From the accounts I read, I didn't think they were cold-blooded murderers. Intel is intel. Names/locations/yada yada yada. If they had to cancel some nefarious plans, isn't that a good thing?
No they didn't. They could have just said "high level AQ operative." There were likely very few, even in AQ command structure that actually knew where he was.
the point is that they had to announce something quickly. i doubt they would have released the info for a while if that helicopter wasn't lost.
the point is that they had to announce something quickly. i doubt they would have released the info for a while if that helicopter wasn't lost.
Islamic law says that a body should be interred in an extremely timely manner. Can you imagine just how much more people would have doubted Osama was actually deceased had they waited until he had been interred for weeks before releasing the news of his death?
Also, the news of Obama's demise was already being reported by Al Jazeera before Obama made a formal announcement. It is silly to believe Obama's timing would have made any difference in the Intel's usefulness. I'm pretty sure more Al Qaeda operatives watch Al Jazeera than Fox, CNN or MSNBC.
Edited to add this link: A witness account of bin Laden's death - Asia - Al Jazeera English
I guess that's why Gaddaffi (or however you spell his fricking name) was paraded around in a meat locker for a week.
the point is that they had to announce something quickly. i doubt they would have released the info for a while if that helicopter wasn't lost.
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