Bill O'Reilly has his own made up war stories. I wonder if Fox will[W:237,343,676]

[beefheart]

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There are still no records of the 30,000, so yes, it's quite possible there would be no records of a few on that day.

So, you are making the claim that the people you think were shot and killed in the riots (the riots extensively covered by news crews from all over the world, who didn't report any killings) were disappeared and no one is the wiser?

Uh huh...sure.

 

[Jack Hays]

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So, you are making the claim that the people you think were shot and killed in the riots (the riots extensively covered by news crews from all over the world, who didn't report any killings) were disappeared and no one is the wiser?

Uh huh...sure.

No one was the wiser 30,000 times, so I don't rule out the possibility.

 

[beefheart]

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No one was the wiser 30,000 times, so I don't rule out the possibility.

And, your proof of this is? And, how come all those news crews from all over the world didn't report on anyone being shot? Well, except for one rookie correspondent trying to pad his resume...

 

[Jack Hays]

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And, your proof of this is? And, how come all those news crews from all over the world didn't report on anyone being shot? Well, except for one rookie correspondent trying to pad his resume...

After 30,000 repetitions, they were pretty good at not getting caught. Having seen such news crews in action abroad, I'm not surprised they would miss big events. I don't need proof because I have made no claim. I merely point out that it is wildly inappropriate to take the lack of Argentine death reports as proof there were no Argentine deaths.

 

[pbrauer]

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And, your proof of this is? And, how come all those news crews from all over the world didn't report on anyone being shot? Well, except for one rookie correspondent trying to pad his resume...

Jack does need proof, he just makes stuff up.

 

[beefheart]

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After 30,000 repetitions, they were pretty good at not getting caught. Having seen such news crews in action abroad, I'm not surprised they would miss big events. I don't need proof because I have made no claim. I merely point out that it is wildly inappropriate to take the lack of Argentine death reports as proof there were no Argentine deaths.

So, in your estimation, how many rioters were shot, killed and disappeared from this one riot that was extensively covered by the world press (that never reported anyone being shot and killed). I'd love to hear some proof of your assertions.

 

[beefheart]

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Jack does need proof, he just makes stuff up.

It is a heck of a lot easier than those pesky facts.

 

[vesper]

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Untitled Document

So, you are making the claim that the people you think were shot and killed in the riots (the riots extensively covered by news crews from all over the world, who didn't report any killings) were disappeared and no one is the wiser?

Uh huh...sure.

This link should provide you with ample leads for stories that were published in the NYT, LAT and others covering the number of those who "disappeared.".

 

[Jack Hays]

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So, in your estimation, how many rioters were shot, killed and disappeared from this one riot that was extensively covered by the world press (that never reported anyone being shot and killed). I'd love to hear some proof of your assertions.

Again, I have made no such assertions. I have merely pointed out that assertions to the contrary based on the absence of news reporting or official records are, in the Argentine context, inappropriate.

 

[Desert Storm]

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Watching FoxNews right now, O'Reilly says CBS has released video of Buenos Aires riot.

This is gonna be good

 

[tres borrachos]

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Watching FoxNews right now, O'Reilly says CBS has released video of Buenos Aires riot.

This is gonna be good

I have my Tivo set but am not watching him yet. Did he say this in the context of this story?

 

[bubbabgone]

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Watching FoxNews right now, O'Reilly says CBS has released video of Buenos Aires riot.

This is gonna be good

I thought the same thing.
He needs to address if anyone was actually shot by the police ... or anyone, actually.
I think that and the slightly injured crew member may be the only things still hanging out there waiting for clarification.

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

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What part of 'read the story' don't you people get??

I did read it. What part of "Is this your proof", don't you get?

 

[Threegoofs]

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Watching FoxNews right now, O'Reilly says CBS has released video of Buenos Aires riot.

This is gonna be good

The funny thing is, no matter what he actually says, you are going to believe it.


Just focus on one thing. Were there 'many, many killed' in the BA riot?

 

[Threegoofs]

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I thought the same thing.
He needs to address if anyone was actually shot by the police ... or anyone, actually.
I think that and the slightly injured crew member may be the only things still hanging out there waiting for clarification.

Lets be clear. Shot with BULLETS. Real bullets, like he said, not rubber ones, and not tear gas canisters.

As the experienced foreign journalists one the ground at the time said:

"There were certainly no dead people," Jim Forrest, a sound engineer for CBS in Buenos Aires, told CNN's Brian Stelter. "Had there been dead people, they would have sent more camera crews." Manny Alvarez, a cameraman called the claims of deaths "outrageous," and added: "People being mowed down? Where was that? That would have been great footage. That would have turned into the story."

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

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The funny thing is, no matter what he actually says, you are going to believe it.

And no matter what is said by any of his witnesses, including Don Brown from NBC news at the time, who was there, you won't.

 

[Desert Storm]

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I'm sorry Liberals, you lost this one.

Video clearly shows a very serious riot with many gunshots going off.
Its unclear if those were all rubber bullets, or a mixture of rubber and real bullets.

But I'm willing to cut O'Reilly some clack there, because at the time Argentina was a dictatorship and they wouldnt have released info on that either way. Also rubber bullets can kill you, and have done so in the past:

Can Rubber Bullets Kill You? : Discovery News

 

[pbrauer]

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I'm sorry Liberals, you lost this one.

Video clearly shows a very serious riot with many gunshots going off.
Its unclear if those were all rubber bullets, or a mixture of rubber and real bullets.

But I'm willing to cut O'Reilly some clack there, because at the time Argentina was a dictatorship and they wouldnt have released info on that either way

Those were not gun shots, it was tear gas.

 

[Desert Storm]

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Those were not gun shots, it was tear gas

CBS news confirmed rubber bullets were fired in their report.

I'll post video of the entire segment later tonight

 

[Jack Hays]

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Those were not gun shots, it was tear gas.

And you know this because . . . . ?

 

[beefheart]

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Untitled Document

This link should provide you with ample leads for stories that were published in the NYT, LAT and others covering the number of those who "disappeared.".

How many from this riot?

 

[beefheart]

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Again, I have made no such assertions. I have merely pointed out that assertions to the contrary based on the absence of news reporting or official records are, in the Argentine context, inappropriate.

You brought up the whole disappearance angle, now you are running from it.

 

[Threegoofs]

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And no matter what is said by any of his witnesses, including Don Brown from NBC news at the time, who was there, you won't.

Sure I will. If I hear corroboration of 'many, many dead', I'll believe it.

 

[Threegoofs]

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I'm sorry Liberals, you lost this one.

Video clearly shows a very serious riot with many gunshots going off.
Its unclear if those were all rubber bullets, or a mixture of rubber and real bullets.

But I'm willing to cut O'Reilly some clack there, because at the time Argentina was a dictatorship and they wouldnt have released info on that either way. Also rubber bullets can kill you, and have done so in the past:

Can Rubber Bullets Kill You? : Discovery News

'Many, many killed'.
Yes or no?

 

[beefheart]

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Sure I will. If I hear corroboration of 'many, many dead', I'll believe it.

Rubber bullets. Tear gas being shot into the crowd.

And everyone will believe the NBC guy, but not the 7 CBS guys. LOL