Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannitty are awesome news reporter

[Deegan]

Ah - The Fox / Rush line on why liberal talk shows won't succeed. :spin: :spin:

The liberals are just getting started but their numbers are growing at a very rapid rate, while shows like Rush and O'Reilly are losing listeners. Rush lost 1 million listeners last month and his audience has been declining since his drug addiction was made public.

Ed Shultz had his first profitable month in November. Franken has a NY Times #1 Best Seller.

Remember Air America, Ed Shultz, Thom Hartmann and Stephanie Miller have shows that are under two years old. Fox lost a lot of money too when they started.

The latest issue of Talkers Magazine shows that Stephanie Miller, Al Franken and Ed Shultz all cracked the 1 million listener mark for the first time this month.

The rise of Rush et al happened during the Clinton bashing years - it makes perfect sense that we are seeing a reverse trend during one party Republican rule.

Your rhetoric contradicts your signature. You claim liberals have been so successful, for so long, yet can't seem to get an audience for your radio talk shows. How long is this going to take actually, in your opinion?:spin:

 

[Inuyasha]

I still contend that the major reason for watching or listening to these types of programs is for their entertainment value and not much for content.

That said, the right handles the commercial aspect much better. The crowd wants to see blood and the right gives them that. The O'Reillys and the Rushs are not out for debate they are out there to create an adversarial atmosphere that will get the crowd roaring or rolling on the floor at the sheer nonsense of the content. The right uses in you face insults and name-calling to the best advantage. These shows have as many liberal viewers as conservative.

The left has not mastered this tactic and continues to. for this medium, over intellectualize. The viewers only want this type of discussion from a Charlie Rose type program. The left can't, at this time, give blood and guts to them. The left uses subtle insults that don't go over too well in this "gladiator" type television.

Well whatever .... let the games begin and we spectators can enjoy it even if it is not very important.

 

[hipsterdufus]

Your rhetoric contradicts your signature. You claim liberals have been so successful, for so long, yet can't seem to get an audience for your radio talk shows. How long is this going to take actually, in your opinion?:spin:

You're comparing apples and oranges.
I would argue that it is already successful and growing more every day. There is liberal talk on the airwaves 24-7 in my area now and for anyone that has access to sattelite radio, or podcasts or the internet.

I have NEVER had that option before , all I could do was argue against Rush from my car.

 

[Deegan]

You're comparing apples and oranges.
I would argue that it is already successful and growing more every day. There is liberal talk on the airwaves 24-7 in my area now and for anyone that has access to sattelite radio, or podcasts or the internet.

I have NEVER had that option before , all I could do was argue against Rush from my car.

Apples and oranges? What are you talking about?

Liberals have had plenty of time to form working, successful talk radio shows, they have failed, or lacked the talent to do so for years. Now you call that spin, or suggest they are getting better, the numbers, and reality, do not support your assumptions. As I said, quit blaming everyone else for your lack of talent, and get someone on the air that does not sound like a mental patient.

 

[hipsterdufus]

Apples and oranges? What are you talking about?

Liberals have had plenty of time to form working, successful talk radio shows, they have failed, or lacked the talent to do so for years. Now you call that spin, or suggest they are getting better, the numbers, and reality, do not support your assumptions. As I said, quit blaming everyone else for your lack of talent, and get someone on the air that does not sound like a mental patient.

I don't think 2 years is an exceptionally long time, do you? Establishing liberal talk shows - and liberal think tanks too- was not a priority for Dems until recently.

And like I said liberal talk is taking increasing market share away from conservative domination of the airwaves minute by minute.

It's not spin - it's reality.

Why do you (and Rush and Fox) care if there are liberal and conservative talk shows to listen too? My sense is because they're threatening, and they hold Rush's, O'Reilly's and Hannity's comments under the microscope for close scrutiny. That is when Franken and Stephanie Miller are at their best - when they are using conservative pundits OWN WORDS against them.

 

[KCConservative]

IWhy do you (and Rush and Fox) care if there are liberal and conservative talk shows to listen too?

I, for one, don't care. In fact, I would like to see more liberal talk to balance the airwaves. The real question, though, is why do the liberal talk shows not last and the conservative shows do? How are the Franken ratings these days?

 

[Inuyasha]

I, for one, don't care. In fact, I would like to see more liberal talk to balance the airwaves. The real question, though, is why do the liberal talk shows not last and the conservative shows do? How are the Franken ratings these days?

In part look at my post just on the last page. The conservative talk shows know how to use the tactics of "in your face TV and radio" better than the liberals do. That is why they last longer. So like it or not they are more entertaining. The liberals will catch up in time, IMO. But it is going to take time

 

[hipsterdufus]

I, for one, don't care. In fact, I would like to see more liberal talk to balance the airwaves. The real question, though, is why do the liberal talk shows not last and the conservative shows do? How are the Franken ratings these days?

Franken, Shultz and Stephanie Miller are all over 1 million listeners per day each.

Franken's show is the number-one streamed audio show on the internet.

Al Franken Beats Rush Limbaugh in San Francisco & Portland, Ore.

NEW YORK – October 27, 2005 – Air America Radio announced today that “The Al Franken Show” beat “The Rush Limbaugh Show” for the first time in San Francisco and Portland, Ore., 2 of the top 25 markets, in the target demo of 25-54, according to Summer 2005 Metro. The two shows air at the same time (9am-12pm) in both markets.

In San Francisco, the #4 Metro, “The Al Franken Show, “ heard on KQKE, came in with a11,400 AQH and a 1.8 Share. “The Rush Limbaugh Show,” heard on KEX, had an 8,500 AQH and a 1.4 Share.

In Portland, OR, the #24 Metro, “The Al Franken Show,” heard on KPOJ, was ranked #4 with an 11,800 AQH and a 5.6 Share. “The Rush Limbaugh Show,” heard on KEX, was ranked #7 and came in with a 10, 400 AQH and a 4.9 Share.

WLIB’s Summer Book ’05 Shows Significant Success

NEW YORK – October 17, 2005 – Air America Radio announced today that there were strong signs of growth in its flagship station, WLIB 1190 AM, according to Arbitron Summer 2005 Metro.

Mon-Sun 6a12m, AQH, Share and Cume have all increased for both Persons 12+ and Adults 25-54. For Adults 25-54, WLIB’s target audience, AQH is up 29%, Share increased 40% (from 1.0 to 1.4) and Cume increased 9%; for Persons 12+, AQH is up 6%, Share is up 20% and Cume is up 11%. WLIB ranks #2 in A25-54 TSL MSu6a12m (10h30m per week), a 20% increase since the Spring 2005 book

http://www.airamericaradio.com/press

 

[KCConservative]

http://www.airamericaradio.com/press

FRanken beat Rush in San Francisco? :shock: What a shocking liberal surprise that is. :rofl

 

[Inuyasha]

FRanken beat Rush in San Francisco? :shock: What a shocking liberal surprise that is. :rofl

Yes but Liberace beat both of them and he's dead but that's San Francisco.

 

[KCConservative]

Let's compare the popularity, shall we?

Rush has nearly 500 stations throughout the country.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/rush.guest.all.html

Al Franken has 84
http://www.airamericaradio.com/stations

:spank:

 

[Deegan]

I don't think 2 years is an exceptionally long time, do you? Establishing liberal talk shows - and liberal think tanks too- was not a priority for Dems until recently.

And like I said liberal talk is taking increasing market share away from conservative domination of the airwaves minute by minute.

It's not spin - it's reality.

Why do you (and Rush and Fox) care if there are liberal and conservative talk shows to listen too? My sense is because they're threatening, and they hold Rush's, O'Reilly's and Hannity's comments under the microscope for close scrutiny. That is when Franken and Stephanie Miller are at their best - when they are using conservative pundits OWN WORDS against them.

Again, what are you talking about? Two years?

They have had talk radio for as long as 20 years in it's current form, even longer in other forms. Why is it that they have not found a place in this huge arena? Why am I to believe they just now started, 2 years ago? Why do I care? I don't, I just want them, and you, to admit it's your own lack of talent, that has kept you from a successful program, no one else's fault, your fault!:roll:

And your last point, this is why liberal radio sucks! They talk about the people that are talking about the issues. No one wants to hear some whiney twerp like Franken, go on about Bill O'reilly for an hour.......well about a million sad listeners like yourself, but that don't cut the mustard kid, and A. America will be short lived.

 

[Mikkel]

Let's compare the popularity, shall we?

Rush has nearly 500 stations throughout the country.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/rush.guest.all.html

Al Franken has 84
http://www.airamericaradio.com/stations

:spank:

Now, to be fair, Rush has had over 12 years to build up his number of stations and Air America has only been on the air for a year and a half. To have 84 (or the real number, 86) stations after only a year and a half is pretty good for ANY radio company, regardless of politics.

 

[Donkey1499]

"NOT"A lot you know if you think Bill Reilly or Sean Hannitty are news reporters they are not they are news commentators their is a huge difference.

I hate to hurt your little bittie feelings, I hope I didn't burst your bubble I know a lot of you think Bill & Sean are gods you think, they walk on water ,

They are just like talk show host on the radio a bunch of hot air nothing more

I willing to bet most of Bill & Sean's and fox die hard's never listen to the news ...........This is why it is so easy for FOX to brain wash a lot of you telling you they are fair and balanced "YA RIGHT"

Talk about brain washing, sheesh!

 

[hipsterdufus]

FRanken beat Rush in San Francisco? :shock: What a shocking liberal surprise that is. :rofl

Let's hope O'Really doesn't send the troops into SanFransico.
You know O'Really single handedly brought down gas prices didn't ya?:roll:

 

[Deegan]

Let's hope O'Really doesn't send the troops into SanFransico.
You know O'Really single handedly brought down gas prices didn't ya?:roll:

You forgot to respond to my post, I'll assume you just mistakenly overlooked it.

 

[Inuyasha]

Let's hope O'Really doesn't send the troops into SanFransico.
You know O'Really single handedly brought down gas prices didn't ya?:roll:

He also is the person who formed the French boycott and made it successfulñ Not to mention getting several people fired from their jobs including that rapper "Ludicrous". Man he is one powerful guy. And soo smart. Maybe he can bring us a pennet at Wrigley. Now i think I'll stick with Dusty a while longer.

 

[Deegan]

He also is the person who formed the French boycott and made it successfulñ Not to mention getting several people fired from their jobs including that rapper "Ludicrous". Man he is one powerful guy. And soo smart. Maybe he can bring us a pennet at Wrigley. Now i think I'll stick with Dusty a while longer.

OMG, you're a Cubs fan? You just went up a notch in my book.

 

[Inuyasha]

OMG, you're a Cubs fan? You just went up a notch in my book.

I live so close to Wrigley that you can hear the crowd. I don't care if the nearest El stop is a long ways away but for 25 years i have lived in three different houses, all within shouting distance of the greatest ballpark in baseball.

 

[Deegan]

I live so close to Wrigley that you can hear the crowd. I don't care if the nearest El stop is a long ways away but for 25 years i have lived in three different houses, all within shouting distance of the greatest ballpark in baseball.

Bless you my son, and may you catch a ball out in the street, I suggest hanging next to the fire station.

 

[Inuyasha]

I am not going to make any predictions this year... I just know. (crosses fingers and toes)

 

[Deegan]

Me at the Buffet concert, and the company suite, don't you just hate me.:2razz:

 

[Inuyasha]

The company suite is enough to make Saint Peter jealous. Lucky dog, you

 

[Deegan]

The company suite is enough to make Saint Peter jealous. Lucky dog, you

Isn't capitalism great, I think so.

 

[Inuyasha]

Isn't capitalism great, I think so.

Even the communists think so, look at China. Let's hope they don't try to buy the Cubs. Then again....