Bill Nye on 'once-in-a-lifetime' floods occurring three times this week

[Threegoofs]

For those who say floods are getting worse, or more numerous.
Here's a list of historic floods. They have always happened, and will continue to happen

List of deadliest floods - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You don’t really have a grasp on the concept that dams, locks, and flood controls have been built on US waterways for a hundred years to control flooding, which is why bad floods happened historically, and scientists are telling us flooding is becoming more frequent and intense.

As the World Warms, Extreme Rain Is Becoming Even More Extreme

Even in places, like Central Texas, with a long history of floods, human-caused warming is creating the conditions for more frequent and severe deluges.

www.nytimes.com

 

[vanceen]

The thing about global warming is that it is based on such simple science that even a 7th grade level of education is sufficient.

It is very simple to understand that pumping tons of carbon into the atmosphere can change how much of the sun’s radiation is absorbed by our atmosphere.

You're basically right about this. The underlying phenomena around CO2 levels in the atmosphere are very complex, but the bottom line is that if you put enough excess CO2 into the air for long enough, there will be problems.

However, L88 is also right to point out that Nye does not have a degree in any physical science. Holding him up as an authority on this or any other scientific issue isn't valid.

In other words, yeah, anthropogenic global warming is almost certainly happening. But not because Bill Nye the Science Guy says so.

 

[Desert Storm]

You don’t really have a grasp on the concept that dams, locks, and flood controls have been built on US waterways for a hundred years to control flooding, which is why bad floods happened historically, and scientists are telling us flooding is becoming more frequent and intense.

As the World Warms, Extreme Rain Is Becoming Even More Extreme

Even in places, like Central Texas, with a long history of floods, human-caused warming is creating the conditions for more frequent and severe deluges.

www.nytimes.com

Do you believe everything your scientists are telling you??

 

[vanceen]

CFCs were about the hole in the ozone layer. Humanity actually did a good job regulating CFCs and thereby repairing the hole in the ozone layer.

Thankfully, the people profiting off of CFCs didn’t run a successful propaganda campaign on our dumbest voters.

Many if not all CFCs have higher greenhouse effects than CO2, as well as ozone depletion potential. Their substitutes, HCFCs, have less ozone depletion potential, but also tend to be potent greenhouse gases.

Water has a higher greenhouse warming effect than CO2, but fortunately its concentration in the atmosphere is in equilibrium; it can't just keep growing.

 

[vanceen]

It's even worse than that. He only has a bachelor's degree. Real engineering programs take five years.

Most working engineers have bachelor's degrees. I've known a couple of PhD engineers, but most of them don't go for advanced degrees because they can make very good money with a bachelor's degree (instead of spending more years in graduate school).

 

[Threegoofs]

Do you believe everything your scientists are telling you??

Do you believe stuff because you just really, really want it to be true?

I mean, the way to interpret information and form opinions (and beliefs) is to look at the best data we have and interpret it in conjunction with the most educated people on the subject. When the best educated people on a topic tell you something that is the opposite of what you believe, you need to seriously examine why your belief would be considerably out of wack with their knowledge.

Or you could just listen to Fox News, I guess.

 

[Absentglare]

You're basically right about this. The underlying phenomena around CO2 levels in the atmosphere are very complex, but the bottom line is that if you put enough excess CO2 into the air for long enough, there will be problems.

However, L88 is also right to point out that Nye does not have a degree in any physical science. Holding him up as an authority on this or any other scientific issue isn't valid.

In other words, yeah, anthropogenic global warming is almost certainly happening. But not because Bill Nye the Science Guy says so.

Sure, he’s a TV personality who advocates for an issue.

There’s something very asinine about these right wingers pretending he’s not entitled to share his opinion because he doesn’t publish climate research in scientific journals, while at the same time they feel fully entitled to share their completely misinformed takes on global warming.

 

[vanceen]

Sure, he’s a TV personality who advocates for an issue.

There’s something very asinine about these right wingers pretending he’s not entitled to share his opinion because he doesn’t publish climate research in scientific journals, while at the same time they feel fully entitled to share their completely misinformed takes on global warming.

I think you're overlooking an obvious aspect of this.

Of course, anyone is entitled to share their opinion.

But Nye is not an authority on the subject. His opinion is not worth more than that of anyone who has read up on it.

The objection is not to Nye, or anyone else, speaking up. It's on his being offered as an authority. He is not.

I could offer any opinion I chose to on climate change. But I would not expect to be taken as an authority because although I have an MSc. in a scientific field (which is more than Nye has), I'm not a climate scientist either.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

So climate scientists lie? Extreme weather is not becoming more frequent that's false

In my experience it doesn't matter what happens some imbecile calling themselves a scientist will always say it's climate change.

This is starting to seem more like a religion than science.

So you shutting down the chicken littles that observe government money to scream about the sky falling

No more government-sponsored cults

Again these idiots will say everything bad that ever happens is caused by climate change it's a cult.

Science plays a very important part in our modern society. So politicians should of course listen to scientists. While at the same time, listen to different perspectives and investigate any scientific wrongdoings.

How climate change worsens heatwaves, droughts, wildfires and floods

Floods and other extreme weather events are happening more often because of climate change.

www.bbc.com

Extreme weather

public.wmo.int

While after decades of scrutiny, Republican politicians have failed to find any faults with the overwhelming evidence for the urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions or any contrary evidence.

Take for example that Trump has built his entire career on claiming that others are corrupt and lying. So of course would the Trump administration have held a “fabolous” press conference if there had been any objective reason to shut down federal climate research. Instead the administration quietly shut down the program without any explanation.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

You're basically right about this. The underlying phenomena around CO2 levels in the atmosphere are very complex, but the bottom line is that if you put enough excess CO2 into the air for long enough, there will be problems.

However, L88 is also right to point out that Nye does not have a degree in any physical science. Holding him up as an authority on this or any other scientific issue isn't valid.

In other words, yeah, anthropogenic global warming is almost certainly happening. But not because Bill Nye the Science Guy says so.

The science is settled today. So the big problem is that both politicians and media focus to little on the urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions. While Republican politicians are outright climate deniers and there have also been massive amounts of climate denial propaganda during the last decades.So that why it can be a need for a good communicator like Bill Nye to explain the overwhelming evidence.

Why has climate change taken a back seat in the US election?

Presidential campaigns have instead focused on other key election issues like the economy, immigration and foreign policy.

www.euronews.com

How the oil industry made us doubt climate change

Energy companies stand accused of trying to downplay their contribution to global warming.

www.bbc.com

Also climate scientists are experts in there field of study not communication. The public debate have also become so toxic that climate scientists are facing harassment and threats.

Global Hating - Online abuse of climate scientists

We polled almost 500 global climate scientists on their experiences of online harassment. The findings reveal personal and collective harms from online hate, and signal ways to make social media platforms safer

globalwitness.org

 

[CLAX1911]

Science plays a very important part in our modern society. So politicians should of course listen to scientists.

Not when they've been predicting doomsday for 50 years and have been wrong every single time.

While at the same time, listen to different perspectives and investigate any scientific wrongdoings.

Basically the Tuesday called just disregard it's nothing it's religion for people who pretend they are atheists.

How climate change worsens heatwaves, droughts, wildfires and floods

Floods and other extreme weather events are happening more often because of climate change.

www.bbc.com

Extreme weather

public.wmo.int

While after decades of scrutiny, Republican politicians have failed to find any faults with the overwhelming evidence for the urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions or any contrary evidence.

What's the urgency is the world going to end in a couple of months we've been hearing that for about 50 years. You cried wolf a thousand times and there wasn't a damn wolf there.

Take for example that Trump has built his entire career on claiming that others are corrupt and lying. So of course would the Trump administration have held a “fabolous” press conference if there had been any objective reason to shut down federal climate research. Instead the administration quietly shut down the program without any explanation.

One of the best things he's done is shut down this cult practice. And he's a lot kinder than me I'd have these people put in federal prison if I was in charge it turns so many minds into putty. To the point where you people believe this absolutely without question that's religion that's a cult.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Not that you are really interested

Why would you say that? Is the point around this forum just to automatically be nasty?

but yes there are plans.

Project Drawdown: the most comprehensive plan to reverse global warming​

The project, led by activist and entrepreneur Paul Hawken, was started in 2013 and has since brought together over 65 researchers from across the globe with 128 experts in climate, sustainability, academia, and business. Together this group developed a unique global systems model, evaluating 80 technologies and practices from the ground up – from innovative energy and agricultural methods to enhanced environmental conservation and restoration.

The results shocked even the experts. Combined it was shown that these 80 solutions could eliminate 1 trillion tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere by 2050, enough to prevent the dangerous climate tipping point of 2 degrees Celsius. Moreover, these solutions would cost less than and produce more jobs that business as usual.

What is drawdown? It is the reversal of greenhouse gases that have built up in our atmosphere primarily from the burning of fossil fuels – coal, oil, and natural gas. Fortunately, major advancements have been made in the past decade to mitigate this problem.

All solutions presented in Drawdown are not just hypothetical. They are real, well-understood technologies and processes that can be scaled around the world. The breakthrough research required for the book has resulted in dozens of new scientific papers, and there are 20 more solutions coming that could create an even greater reduction in greenhouse gases.

Below are the top 10 solutions in order of greatest impact:

1. Hi-tech Refrigeration
2. Onshore Wind Power
3. Reducing Food Waste
4. Plant-rich diets
5. Tropical Forest Protection
6. Educating girls
7. Family Planning
8. Utility-scale Solar
9. Silvopasture
10. Rooftop Solar

https://www.oneearth.org/project-drawdown-the-most-comprehensive-plan-to-reverse-global-warming/

Is there a high level summary that outlines the entire plan, including the overall costs, where all the resources coming from, required timelines, how to convince the world's governments to implement it, what we're all going to have to give up to achieve it, and so on? All I can find on that site are vague idealistic marketing materials and some detailed explanations of dozens of different individual things that can theoretically be done to mitigate the problem (but a lot of which, especially some of the supposedly most impactful ones, would be a very very hard sell).

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Not when they've been predicting doomsday for 50 years and have been wrong every single time.

Basically the Tuesday called just disregard it's nothing it's religion for people who pretend they are atheists.

What's the urgency is the world going to end in a couple of months we've been hearing that for about 50 years. You cried wolf a thousand times and there wasn't a damn wolf there.

One of the best things he's done is shut down this cult practice. And he's a lot kinder than me I'd have these people put in federal prison if I was in charge it turns so many minds into putty. To the point where you people believe this absolutely without question that's religion that's a cult.

The devastating effects of climate change are being felt all across the world.

The US faces more frequent extreme weather events, but attitudes and actions aren't keeping up

Experts say climate change is making extreme weather events more frequent and severe, but that our attitudes and actions haven't kept up.

apnews.com

Met Office: Extreme weather the UK's new normal

The UK has a notably different climate compared with just a few decades ago, the Met Office says.

www.bbc.com

While people like you have become so radicalized that you want to lock up scientists for doing their jobs. There the Trump administration is heading in that direction. For example how federal employees was harassed and threatened after being targeted by Musk.

Elon Musk Mocks Federal Workers On X, They Get Hate Posts, Death Threats

Imagine the fear of becoming a personal target of the richest man in the world - and his followers. That's what federal government employees are feeling after Elon Musk publicised their names.

www.ndtv.com

People are also now being detained for using their right to free speech.

ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

Barbara Stone was handcuffed and held by federal agents for hours, according to her family; she was accused of pushing an ICE officer, which she denies.

www.nbcnews.com

Rumeysa Ozturk: Turkish Tufts University student released on bail

Her arrest followed the White House's crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses.

www.bbc.com

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Why would you say that? Is the point around this forum just to automatically be nasty?




Is there a high level summary that outlines the entire plan, including the overall costs, where all the resources coming from, required timelines, how to convince the world's governments to implement it, what we're all going to have to give up to achieve it, and so on? All I can find on that site are vague idealistic marketing materials and some detailed explanations of dozens of different individual things that can theoretically be done to mitigate the problem (but a lot of which, especially some of the supposedly most impactful ones, would be a very very hard sell).

There are many examples of that a transition away from fossil fuel is not only possible but also have a lot of benefits. For example rapid technological advancement have led to that also Republican voters now sees the benefits with renewable energy. Even with Trump administration doing all they can to delay the transition.

Republican states are going strong on solar and wind, but not for the climate

People are building clean energy for economic and energy security reasons, and that's fine.

www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com

Also for example rapid advancement in electric cars there it's a need to catch up with China.

How China’s EV Boom Powers Its Tech Rise

Once an auto underdog, the country’s current dominance of the global electric-vehicle market says a lot about why it brims with confidence in other fields.

time.com

While it's also possible to create both environmental and social more sustainable societies.

How Amsterdam Uses the Doughnut Economics Model to Create a Balanced Strategy for Both the People and the Environment

Amsterdam announced a city-wide strategy based on the Doughnut Economics model, aiming to balance social needs with the imperative for climate action.

www.archdaily.com

 

[CLAX1911]

The devastating effects of climate change are being felt all across the world.

They've been saying that for 50 years

The US faces more frequent extreme weather events, but attitudes and actions aren't keeping up

Experts say climate change is making extreme weather events more frequent and severe, but that our attitudes and actions haven't kept up.

apnews.com

Met Office: Extreme weather the UK's new normal

The UK has a notably different climate compared with just a few decades ago, the Met Office says.

www.bbc.com

While people like you have become so radicalized that you want to lock up scientists for doing their jobs.

I'm radicalized by being lied to so much.

There the Trump administration is heading in that direction. For example how federal employees was harassed and threatened after being targeted by Musk.

Elon Musk Mocks Federal Workers On X, They Get Hate Posts, Death Threats

Imagine the fear of becoming a personal target of the richest man in the world - and his followers. That's what federal government employees are feeling after Elon Musk publicised their names.

www.ndtv.com

People are also now being detained for using their right to free speech.

ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

Barbara Stone was handcuffed and held by federal agents for hours, according to her family; she was accused of pushing an ICE officer, which she denies.

www.nbcnews.com

Rumeysa Ozturk: Turkish Tufts University student released on bail

Her arrest followed the White House's crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses.

www.bbc.com

 

[ataraxia]

Bill Nye is a quack. Complete loon.

Yes. We need to listen to more serious sources and go chasing after cancer causing wind turbines and autism-causing vaccines.

 

[ataraxia]

They've been saying that for 50 years

I'm radicalized by being lied to so much.

So that’s why you like running after cancer causing wind turbines now?

 

[VySky]

Yes. We need to listen to more serious sources and go chasing after cancer causing wind turbines and autism-causing vaccines.

Do as you wish.

 

[The AntiDonald]

The real idiots are the people who believe we're going to stop floods and hurricanes by subsidizing windmills and solar panels.

No one believes that. But starting somewhere is much better than sweeping the problem under the carpet. How can it hurt to cut back on burning fossil fuels? No matter where you do it, it is a positive move.

 

[Noodlegawd]

There are many examples of that a transition away from fossil fuel is not only possible but also have a lot of benefits. For example rapid technological advancement have led to that also Republican voters now sees the benefits with renewable energy. Even with Trump administration doing all they can to delay the transition.

Republican states are going strong on solar and wind, but not for the climate

People are building clean energy for economic and energy security reasons, and that's fine.

www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com

Also for example rapid advancement in electric cars there it's a need to catch up with China.

How China’s EV Boom Powers Its Tech Rise

Once an auto underdog, the country’s current dominance of the global electric-vehicle market says a lot about why it brims with confidence in other fields.

time.com

While it's also possible to create both environmental and social more sustainable societies.

How Amsterdam Uses the Doughnut Economics Model to Create a Balanced Strategy for Both the People and the Environment

Amsterdam announced a city-wide strategy based on the Doughnut Economics model, aiming to balance social needs with the imperative for climate action.

www.archdaily.com

Those are not comprehensive plans, and that doesn't answer my question about the only one identified in response to my original question.

 

[iguanaman]

Why would you say that? Is the point around this forum just to automatically be nasty?




Is there a high level summary that outlines the entire plan, including the overall costs, where all the resources coming from, required timelines, how to convince the world's governments to implement it, what we're all going to have to give up to achieve it, and so on? All I can find on that site are vague idealistic marketing materials and some detailed explanations of dozens of different individual things that can theoretically be done to mitigate the problem (but a lot of which, especially some of the supposedly most impactful ones, would be a very very hard sell).

LOL The basic plan is quite simple and it requires that we replace fossil energy with other sources and reduce emissions of methane and other powerful greenhouse gases. We must slow and then stop the burning of fossil fuels ASAP. Yes this goal will entail costs but the rewards are that we will experience far less negative effects and prevent "runaway" warming where feedbacks form a loop that is no longer controllable. Before you say that these changes will cause hardships you should remember that fossil energy will run out eventually and putting off these changes will cause great harm to the planet and in turn to all its inhabitants.

 

[Noodlegawd]

LOL The basic plan is quite simple and it requires that we replace fossil energy with other sources and reduce emissions of methane and other powerful greenhouse gases. We must slow and then stop the burning of fossil fuels ASAP. Yes this goal will entail costs but the rewards are that we will experience far less negative effects and prevent "runaway" warming where feedbacks form a loop that is not controlable.

Can you please answer my actual question?

 

[iguanaman]

Can you please answer my actual question?

You don't have a question you have a agenda......Throwing up your hands and giving up because it is too hard to do.

 

[Noodlegawd]

You don't have a question you have a agenda......Throwing up your hands and giving up because it is too hard to do.

What's my agenda? Are you telling me that the only way to get the answer to my question is to spend the next year combing through reams of disjointed web pages, or buy their book?

They don't have an executive summary of their plan?

Why are you so fervently dodging the question?

 

[Threegoofs]

What's my agenda? Are you telling me that the only way to get the answer to my question is to spend the next year combing through reams of disjointed web pages, or buy their book?

They don't have an executive summary of their plan?

Why are you so fervently dodging the question?

Maybe if you clearly state what your question is you’ll get an answer.