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Big Brother is watching! White House slammed for pledging to keep a 'close eye' on Twitter

Chillfolks said:
Both sides want to control the information while claiming it’s the other side trying to manipulate you.
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Deuce said:
A slightly moldy tunafish sandwich and a bottle of cyanide are both poor lunch choices but it doesn't feel like they should be compared in such a fashion.
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I despise both-sides statements as well. Why would anyone want to defend the cyanide?


Chillfolks said:
I would shut it down and watch the world become better place
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Then sit tight. Elon seems to be trying his best. Already scared off 50 advertisers that combined to provide about 750 million this year. Threatened to declare war on Apple today...

And it's a shame because Space X and the potential for better battery technology (Tesla) are damned necessary, but he might just handicap those endeavors given the way he structured his idiotic Twitter overpayment.
 
In other news, the Biden administration has "no position" on Chinese protesters many of whom who are going to be arrested by the Commie thugs there.

They are too busy keeping a close eye on Twitter I guess. And they wouldn't want to make Xi angry or anything.
 
jcgriff2 said:
Biden's white house = Gestapo HQ (or KGB/FSB HQ if you prefer) who regularly monitors the speech of American citizens. Disgraceful.

This is the land of free speech and Biden's WH certainly is not a moderator of such speech in any way.

Democrats obviously changed the 2020 election by sending FBI agents out to Twitter, Facebook, and others to approve favorable democrat posts while blocking anything anti-democrat party.
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Link for the bolded?
 
jcgriff2 said:
Biden's white house = Gestapo HQ (or KGB/FSB HQ if you prefer) who regularly monitors the speech of American citizens. Disgraceful.

This is the land of free speech and Biden's WH certainly is not a moderator of such speech in any way.

Democrats obviously changed the 2020 election by sending FBI agents out to Twitter, Facebook, and others to approve favorable democrat posts while blocking anything anti-democrat party.
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"Changed the 2020 election" from what to what? And do you have a link or source for your claim of Twitter/Facebook visits by the FBI -- sent by democrats but headed by a Trump-selected and obviously ungrateful Chris Wray. Anyway, get that paranoi... um vital info to Trump asap, as even he -- to say nothing of D'Souza -- has not uncovered that atrocity.
 

White House slammed for pledging to keep a 'close eye' on Twitter​


I actually don't know what that even means. This is not Europe where they have Laws regarding Social Media that are much more granular than what we have here.

Beyond looking into foreign involvement in Twitter financing under Musk, what is there to look at? What Laws are the Administration going to use as rational to "keep and eye on them". Keep an eye on what?

Just sounds like Happy Talk to me.
 
It is absolutely beyond absurd to be so afraid that the government is tracking you when corporate America is the entity already doing it.

At least with the government we have representation, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, checks and balances, and the Supreme Court.

With corporate America we have none of that. They just do as they please and track anybody they can whether the individual has agreed to their outrageous Terms of Use or not.

I wonder what percentage of people who agree to the corporate Terms of Use have actually read them and really agree with everything they are signing away their legal rights on. .0000*%?

I have tried to read those agreements and it is impossible. First of all, it is so long it takes hours. Secondly, that's just the first page. Contained within are numerous links to other pages you also agree to. And at each one of those links are more links. It is endless. You are signing away your rights. Those would be the rights you have with the government.

It should be illegal. It probably is. It is ridiculous to have such a long User Agreement that it cannot even be read, then demand that customers and workers sign off on it before they can participate. They make it purposely long precisely so that people will just click it and not read it. And most people do. So they get right away with it.

Now it is getting to the point that you can't do business with a large corporation over the internet or order anything unless you sign away your rights. And it's happening right now. Home Depot did it last year. Walmart just did it this year. You can't order anything from them online unless you sign away your rights.

I am ashamed of Americans for letting them get away with this.

I tried to reload Windows 10 to an old laptop and it naturally demanded agreement to the huge unknown series of documents. OK, you've always had to to that to load SW. No big deal, right? Guess again. That agreement as been rewritten. Now you can't even have windows 10 unless you agree to sign up for all of their suite of cloud features and hand over all your personal information and personal files. Oh, you can always opt out of that later, they say, but the SW won't even finish loading if you don't furnish a valid email address or phone number.

That is also brand new this year. Last year, no problem. You could have the Windows 10 SW anonymously. Just buy a device, agree to the less intrusive previous User Agreement and it starts right up. Now it demands a phone number or email address, forces you to sign up for the whole suite.

And the only reason they can get away with this is because most people just shrug away their rights and let them. If that didn't happen, if people said NO, they wouldn't be able to get away with this. All of the big corporations are doing it now.

And what happens with all of your personal information? Oh, they promise to keep it secure. But we hear of data breaches on a regular basis. And what happens when that corporation gets sold to another bigger one? Is the vulture capitalist one going to honor those agreements and keep your information safe? You hope. Or, like most Americans, you just give up and give in.

There is no right to privacy any more.

And did you ever even try to read one of those things? If it's a store, they are going to use face recognition SW on everybody that walks in. They are going to use cameras and record what you look like, your body shape, your auto tag number, the way you walk. They are going to track your cell phone or other devices. They will keep track of clothing and hats you wear, your tattoos, the style of sunglasses you have on, your shoes. They are going to go on social media and find out what you are saying, and what other people are saying about you. They will go through all your emails if they can, and if they can't they will try to partner with corporate partners who can and will share that information about you. They are going to go through your contact list, check out everybody you talk to. They are going to check your credit rating, your criminal and court records, find out what you own and pay taxes on.

And people are worried about the government watching you? It boggles the mind.
 
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"Most Americans, good Americans, don't like speech like hate speech and Covid misinformation and anti-democracy lies that Twitter used to ban people for, and Apple wants to sell to most Americans. So, they don't like your bad, dishonest, disingenuous version of 'free speech'."
 
eman623 said:
In other news, the Biden administration has "no position" on Chinese protesters many of whom who are going to be arrested by the Commie thugs there.

They are too busy keeping a close eye on Twitter I guess. And they wouldn't want to make Xi angry or anything.
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And you still have simpletons defending their cyanide as they say
 
Roadvirus said:
How much more Orwellian can ya get?
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How much more irresponsible and negligent can musk get?

Children are no longer safe on twitter.

I hope that the government is keeping an eye on twitter. Someone has to make sure that children are safe on the site.

Layoffs Have Gutted Twitter’s Child Safety Team

I'm surprised musk has to be told this but child porn and pedophilia isn't free speech. If I my child was not an adult now, I wouldn't allow my child on twitter. There is very little left of the team that looks for and stops child porn and pedophilia on twitter. Children aren't safe on...
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eman623 said:
In other news, the Biden administration has "no position" on Chinese protesters many of whom who are going to be arrested by the Commie thugs there.

They are too busy keeping a close eye on Twitter I guess. And they wouldn't want to make Xi angry or anything.
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Chillfolks said:
And you still have simpletons defending their cyanide as they say
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And this right here, folks, is why you already give virtually no heed beyond passing disdain to posts by Chillfolks and eman623: it's pure hackery. It's just about a tit-for-tat.

To respond on the level of their posts, you'd have to say something like "oh yeah?! Well what about Trump deliberately traumatizing asylum-seekers children by disappearing their parents without tracking in order to scare off other people from following U.S. law in seeking asylum."

You'd have correctly identified a greater wrong, so I guess it'd be on a slightly better level. It would just have nothing to do with the thing it was being compared to. That'd be on the level of their posts. But if you don't want to do that, I guess you can sit around watching them validate each other's bullshit, as if that somehow gives it credibility.
 
Liberal7360 said:
How much more irresponsible and negligent can musk get?

Children are no longer safe on twitter.

I hope that the government is keeping an eye on twitter. Someone has to make sure that children are safe on the site.

Layoffs Have Gutted Twitter’s Child Safety Team

I'm surprised musk has to be told this but child porn and pedophilia isn't free speech. If I my child was not an adult now, I wouldn't allow my child on twitter. There is very little left of the team that looks for and stops child porn and pedophilia on twitter. Children aren't safe on...
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Ah-huh

I understand. But as I stated above, under what part of the US code is the Administration going to hold twitter accountable? The Administration is going to watch AND DO WHAT?

twitter is not a publisher for one thing. For another there is a world of difference between promoting your social media site as welcoming to pedophiles and simply not monitoring them as we would hope. Now if twitter announced: Please join our new "Kiddies in Undies" sub-forum, that would be an entirely different kettle of fish.

Since we are phenomenally lazy while being bombastically litigious in this country, I would look at Europe's Social Media Laws and just cut and paste and cut and paste and cut and paste everyplace I could. Yes we are big believers in Free Speech. Count me in. But we simply stand there and wave the Free Speech banner over stuff that nobody with a brain believes should fall into the Free Speech bucket.

"Keep a close eye on them". Give me a break WH. THAT is Happy Talk.
 
Roadvirus said:
How much more Orwellian can ya get?
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The TRUTH is, there was nothing Orwellian about what was stated at the White House Press Conference by the Press Secretary MS. Karine Jean-Pierre.

So there is that.
 
jnug said:

White House slammed for pledging to keep a 'close eye' on Twitter​


I actually don't know what that even means. This is not Europe where they have Laws regarding Social Media that are much more granular than what we have here.

Beyond looking into foreign involvement in Twitter financing under Musk, what is there to look at? What Laws are the Administration going to use as rational to "keep and eye on them". Keep an eye on what?

Just sounds like Happy Talk to me.
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I don't really know what it means either but I was certainly surprised to see the Press Sec address it, at all.

Much less in that sort of way.
 
Cope said:
I don't really know what it means either but I was certainly surprised to see the Press Sec address it, at all.
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It means the White House will, in a detached manner, monitor Social Media content for misinformation, disinformation, hate speech, incitations of violence, keeping an eye on Twitter, and other social media platforms.

They have not, unlike the previous administration, sought to control and effect what Social Media Platforms do in regards policing their own platforms.
Cope said:
Much less in that sort of way.
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What is paramount, from this administration, that was stated, repeatedly, in that press conference by the Press Secretary was that "keeping an eye on" Twitter and other platforms was just that, watching, and that it is the position of the White House and the President that the responsibility for managing those bad Social Media issues falls upon the owners and leaders of those platforms to address them.
 
Rather than whining about an innocuous statement, Musk should be worrying about the not so subtle warning from the EU...

 
jcgriff2 said:
Biden's white house = Gestapo HQ (or KGB/FSB HQ if you prefer) who regularly monitors the speech of American citizens. Disgraceful.

This is the land of free speech and Biden's WH certainly is not a moderator of such speech in any way.

Democrats obviously changed the 2020 election by sending FBI agents out to Twitter, Facebook, and others to approve favorable democrat posts while blocking anything anti-democrat party.
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Poe's law is in effect here.

Can't tell if you're serious
or if you're making fun of people who think these things.
 
jcgriff2 said:
Biden's white house = Gestapo HQ (or KGB/FSB HQ if you prefer) who regularly monitors the speech of American citizens. Disgraceful.

This is the land of free speech and Biden's WH certainly is not a moderator of such speech in any way.

Democrats obviously changed the 2020 election by sending FBI agents out to Twitter, Facebook, and others to approve favorable democrat posts while blocking anything anti-democrat party.
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You have about as much proof of this as Rudy had about election fraud.
 

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LouC said:
It means the White House will, in a detached manner, monitor Social Media content for misinformation, disinformation, hate speech, incitations of violence, keeping an eye on Twitter, and other social media platforms.

They have not, unlike the previous administration, sought to control and effect what Social Media Platforms do in regards policing their own platforms.

What is paramount, from this administration, that was stated, repeatedly, in that press conference by the Press Secretary was that "keeping an eye on" Twitter and other platforms was just that, watching, and that it is the position of the White House and the President that the responsibility for managing those bad Social Media issues falls upon the owners and leaders of those platforms to address them.
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I mean, that they addressed it at all, only after Musk took over, is a bit problematic for this administration. In the public view, it looks like some sort of favoritism which was fine when the wind was blowing your way.

They need to stay away from such issues.
 
Cope said:
I mean, that they addressed it at all, only after Musk took over, is a bit problematic for this administration.
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But they haven't done that. Joe Biden as a candidate for the Presidency made looking into and addressing the issue a promise of his campaign.
Cope said:
In the public view, it looks like some sort of favoritism which was fine when the wind was blowing your way.
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Only in the misinformed publics view.
Cope said:
They need to stay away from such issues.
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No they don't. Merely observing is not an issue. Besides it is in our National interest in keeping an eye on platforms that may be utilized by those working to harm others or our Government.
 
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