Biden's job approval enters new territory for the first time

[tres borrachos]

He's opened the border!!!!!!

When was it closed? Did Trump build that wall?

 

[Ikari]

When was it closed? Did Trump build that wall?

No, Mexico would never pay for it.

 

[Visbek]

This is a wingnut poll.

Biden is no saint however the source of this information is largely BS.

The polls are fine. Both RCP and 538 make composites of polls.

No one should be surprised by this, as it's typical for a new President to have a honeymoon at the start of a term. Losing a few points and having a positive net approval rating is actually decent.

In comparison, Trump spent his entire term with a net disapproval of 10-20%. I'm guessing that the OP conveniently ignored that.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Biden's dip in the poll numbers is not surprising but also not alarming, there is plenty going on right now giving people concern and that tends to be placed at the feet of any President to take the blame for.

 

[Cardinal]

Don't forget releasing COVID positive illegals without warning the community.

Huh. Lookit that. All of the states with the worst outbreaks aren’t on the border. They’re the states where Republicans are resisting vaccines and masking the hardest. Go figure.

 

[tres borrachos]

No, Mexico would never pay for it.

So I heard!

 

[Dittohead not!]

I don't know about the less potential harm part. He's absolutely a do-nothing, but his puppet masters certainly aren't.

He got a bipartisan infrastructure bill passed. He has shown an ability to work across the aisle. He has won the respect of our allies, something Trump was never able to do.

Face it: The real objection to Biden is the letter after his name, period.

 

[reflechissez]

I wonder if the OP tracked trump's approval rating with this much zeal. I wonder.

 

[Visbek]

Why? What has he done other than be not-Trump, spend lavishly, and distribute Trump's vaccines?

Well, excluding all the non-Trumpian things (which is actually pretty substantial and a long list....):

• Helping to negotiate a bipartisan infrastructure bill -- something that Trump never got off the ground
• Issued rules protecting patients from surprise medical bills
• Halted federal death penalty executions
• Signed the 3rd stimulus bill, including:
- increase in SNAP funding
- restored funding to veterans programs
- bolstered the ACA
- provided aid to the airlines
- provided aid to minority farm owners
• Released his tax returns
• Increased minimum wages for federal contractors
• Dedicated $2.5 billion to mental health and drug addiction treatment
• Rejoined the Paris Climate Accord
• Revoked permit for additional construction on Keystone XL
• Trying to stop drilling in ANWR
• Stopped new leases for drilling on public land
• Rejoined UN Human Rights Council
• Extended fair housing rights to transgender individuals
• Invoked the DPA to speed up vaccine manufacturing
• Delivered 25 million masks to health centers and food pantries
• Donated $4 billion and doses to international vaccine efforts

Not too bad, for less than a year, and the narrowest possible majority in Congress, including two Democratic Senators who are deliberately holding back a lot of possible changes.

What Has Joe Biden Done As President? The Full List Of His Accomplishments

Tracking what Joe Biden has accomplished since becoming the 46th president of the United States on January 20, 2021.

oliverwillis.com

 

[Cardinal]

Well, excluding all the non-Trumpian things (which is actually pretty substantial and a long list....):

• Helping to negotiate a bipartisan infrastructure bill -- something that Trump never got off the ground
• Issued rules protecting patients from surprise medical bills
• Halted federal death penalty executions
• Signed the 3rd stimulus bill, including:
- increase in SNAP funding
- restored funding to veterans programs
- bolstered the ACA
- provided aid to the airlines
- provided aid to minority farm owners
• Released his tax returns
• Increased minimum wages for federal contractors
• Dedicated $2.5 billion to mental health and drug addiction treatment
• Rejoined the Paris Climate Accord
• Revoked permit for additional construction on Keystone XL
• Trying to stop drilling in ANWR
• Stopped new leases for drilling on public land
• Rejoined UN Human Rights Council
• Extended fair housing rights to transgender individuals
• Invoked the DPA to speed up vaccine manufacturing
• Delivered 25 million masks to health centers and food pantries
• Donated $4 billion and doses to international vaccine efforts

Not too bad, for less than a year, and the narrowest possible majority in Congress, including two Democratic Senators who are deliberately holding back a lot of possible changes.

What Has Joe Biden Done As President? The Full List Of His Accomplishments

Tracking what Joe Biden has accomplished since becoming the 46th president of the United States on January 20, 2021.

oliverwillis.com

Yes, but aside from all of that, what good has Biden done for us?

 

[Jay59]

Well, excluding all the non-Trumpian things (which is actually pretty substantial and a long list....):

• Helping to negotiate a bipartisan infrastructure bill Small point but OK
• Issued rules protecting patients from surprise medical bills Nit
• Halted federal death penalty executions This is a bad thing, but he did it.
• Signed the 3rd stimulus bill Carryover from Trump
• Increased minimum wages for federal contractors Nit
• Dedicated $2.5 billion to mental health and drug addiction treatment Nit
• Rejoined the Paris Climate Accord Nit
• Revoked permit for additional construction on Keystone XL Nit and serious faux pas
• Trying to stop drilling in ANWR Nothing
• Stopped new leases for drilling on public land Not a nit but a bad thing
• Rejoined UN Human Rights Council Nit
• Extended fair housing rights to transgender individuals Nit
• Invoked the DPA to speed up vaccine manufacturing Not even a nit
• Delivered 25 million masks to health centers and food pantries Not even a nit
• Donated $4 billion and doses to international vaccine efforts Nit

Not too bad, for less than a year, and the narrowest possible majority in Congress, including two Democratic Senators who are deliberately holding back a lot of possible changes.

Cool a real answer, though one with serious nitpicking. Since this is copied from a site, I offer it as exhibit A for the prosecution. Biden is a do-nothing on a good day.

Even though you claim to exclude carryovers, you included the improperly named stimulus. I can see why. It's the only important thing on the list, except the current bill.

Yes, but aside from all of that, what good has Biden done for us?

Not cool. A non-answer.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

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So, your point is that Biden’s lowest national approval rating so far is higher than Trump’s highest national approval rating on any single day of his poisonous presidency?

Didn’t need any charts to figure that.

 

[eohrnberger]

Deservedly so. Biden and his administration sure have made a mess of things.

 

[Cardinal]

Deservedly so. Biden and his administration sure have made a mess of things.

7.5 years to go. You can do this.

 

[Perotista]

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Yes, I seen that. For the first time since inauguration day, Biden has slipped below 50%. The fall was driven by independents, from 55% in June down to 47% today. Whereas the normal honeymoon phase for a new president last a maximum 100 days, Biden has received a 6 month honeymoon from independents. Basically due to Biden not being Trump. Now Trump has been more or less out of the news, quiet, t seems independents are finally taking a closer look at Biden.

I wondered how many other new presidents stayed above 50% from inauguration day until 11 Aug of their first year.
Trump, no, he never reached 50% once in his entire presidency
Obama, yes, he was at 54% on 11 Aug, but down from 65% in April.
G.W. Bush, yes, he was at 57% on 11 Aug, up from his low of 52% in June.
Bill Clinton, no, he was at 44% on 11 Aug, up from his low of 37% in June.
G.H.W. Bush, yes, he was at 67% on 11 Aug, up from 51% on inauguration day, but down from 70% in June.
Reagan, yes, he was at 60% on 11 Aug, down from 68% in May.
Carter, yes, 66% on 11 Aug, but down from 75% in March.

I actually thought there wouldn't be any president which maintained a 50% or above Job approval for his first 200 days in office. I'm surprised to find out that 5 presidents since and including Carter have. Three haven't, Bill Clinton, Trump and now Biden. Of the five who did, Carter and G.H.W. Bush lost reelection. Bill Clinton who didn't, won reelection, Trump who also didn't, lost reelection. So I'll file this in the nice to know category, but kind of irrelevant for the long term.

I think the bottom line is independents are now beginning to look at policy and how Biden and the Democratic controlled congress are now governing. The benefit of not being Trump is fading and most likely, soon to be gone. I think one should remember, policy wise, independents were split on Trump's policies, for some, against some. It wasn't policy that lost Trump the White House, it was his obnoxious, rude personality along with his very unpresidential behavior. Now it seems being presidential isn't enough to keep independents on Biden's side. It seems now, independents are actually beginning to look at how Biden and the democrats in congress are finally governing. My take on this.

 

[Jay59]

Prove it.

Google is your friend. This is just for McAllen, TX.

Texas border city says more than 7,000 COVID-positive migrants released since February, 1,500 in last week

The Texas border city of McAllen says more than 7,000 COVID-positive migrants have been released into the city since February, and more than 1,500 in the past week -- the latest example of growing concern about the potential impact of the border crisis on efforts to control COVID-19 in the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

More than 1,500 coronavirus-positive migrants released in one week into Texas border town

MCALLEN, Texas — A border city in south Texas declared a local disaster this week as it struggles to respond to surging cases of the coronavirus among migrants as thousands are released by the Border Patrol onto the street every week.

news.yahoo.com

Hidalgo County extends disaster declaration due to COVID-19 concerns from increase in migrants

Hidalgo County Commissioners Court on Tuesday extended a local disaster declaration due to continued COVID-19 concerns from an increase of migrants seeking asylum in the county, according to a news release.

www.krgv.com

For some reason, the cult sites aren't picking up on it.

No, Mexico would never pay for it.

Yes, they did.

It was payment in kind by providing troops at the border, but the effect was the same.

So I heard!

You heard wrong and you need to expand your information sources.

7.5 years to go. You can do this.

Over/under is 2.5.

 

[tres borrachos]

Google is your friend. This is just for McAllen, TX.

Texas border city says more than 7,000 COVID-positive migrants released since February, 1,500 in last week

The Texas border city of McAllen says more than 7,000 COVID-positive migrants have been released into the city since February, and more than 1,500 in the past week -- the latest example of growing concern about the potential impact of the border crisis on efforts to control COVID-19 in the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

More than 1,500 coronavirus-positive migrants released in one week into Texas border town

MCALLEN, Texas — A border city in south Texas declared a local disaster this week as it struggles to respond to surging cases of the coronavirus among migrants as thousands are released by the Border Patrol onto the street every week.

news.yahoo.com

Hidalgo County extends disaster declaration due to COVID-19 concerns from increase in migrants

Hidalgo County Commissioners Court on Tuesday extended a local disaster declaration due to continued COVID-19 concerns from an increase of migrants seeking asylum in the county, according to a news release.

www.krgv.com

For some reason, the cult sites aren't picking up on it.


Yes, they did.

It was payment in kind by providing troops at the border, but the effect was the same.


You heard wrong and you need to expand your information sources.


Over/under is 2.5.

HAHAH now you're pretending your crush Trump never said Mexico would pay for the wall.

Problem for you is this isn't a Trump Fan Club board. There are lots of smart people who know when Trump cult members lie.

Trump said it, and you know it. You were probably at one of the many rallies where he said it, tossing your underpants onstage at his feet like housewives at a Tom Jones concert.

 

[gbg3]

The polls are fine. Both RCP and 538 make composites of polls.

No one should be surprised by this, as it's typical for a new President to have a honeymoon at the start of a term. Losing a few points and having a positive net approval rating is actually decent.

In comparison, Trump spent his entire term with a net disapproval of 10-20%. I'm guessing that the OP conveniently ignored that.

Lol - ignored a previous president's poll numbers in a thread about Joe Biden's poll numbers? Yes, I certainly did ignore the ratings of all previous presidents in this thread about the current president. Is there some forum rule that all threads must be about Trump and, if not, he's being ignored? Are you having a hard time recognizing who serves in office right now? I get it, I miss a lot about Trump too - especially his excellent and effective policy.

 

[gbg3]

Yes, they did.

It was payment in kind by providing troops at the border, but the effect was the same.

That and remain in Mexico turned out to be wonderful payment and so very useful to the U.S.. Now, the border is just a complete disaster in every way - the drugs, the cartels, the conditions, covid, criminals from all over the world freely crossing, the sheer numbers, and this list could go on for pages. Hopefully, one good thing will come of the border - if it simply crushes Biden and Dems in upcoming elections.

 

[Callen]

A definite dip but not at all surprising , alarming or significant. If the trend continues I may start digging deeper at the internals but for now I'll just watch until maybe early Fall.

 

[Jay59]

HAHAH now you're pretending your crush Trump never said Mexico would pay for the wall.

You are pretending that stopping invaders short of the border wasn't payment. Be a little less literal and look at the outcome.

Problem for you is this isn't a Trump Fan Club board. There are lots of smart people who know when Trump cult members lie.

That's OK. I'm not a Trump fan club sort of guy. I just like his work.

Trump said it, and you know it. You were probably at one of the many rallies where he said it, tossing your underpants onstage at his feet like housewives at a Tom Jones concert.

I generally don't pay much attention to what is said. I look at the results. They are a truer guide.

That and remain in Mexico turned out to be wonderful payment and so very useful to the U.S.. Now, the border is just a complete disaster in every way - the drugs, the cartels, the conditions, covid, criminals from all over the world freely crossing, the sheer numbers, and this list could go on for pages. Hopefully, one good thing will come of the border - if it simply crushes Biden and Dems in upcoming elections.

True. In addition to illegal crossings, drug smuggling has surged. Most likely, so is sex trafficking.

The 2022 elections are looking grim for Democrats.

A definite dip but not at all surprising , alarming or significant. If the trend continues I may start digging deeper at the internals but for now I'll just watch until maybe early Fall.

More of a trend than a dip. Look at the approval margin under the two graphs.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[Yakshi]

If you had asked any reasonable person, "What will Biden's approval look like during his first year?" they probably would have drawn a graph similar to the one in the OP.

 

[tres borrachos]

You are pretending that stopping invaders short of the border wasn't payment. Be a little less literal and look at the outcome.


That's OK. I'm not a Trump fan club sort of guy. I just like his work.


I generally don't pay much attention to what is said. I look at the results. They are a truer guide.


True. In addition to illegal crossings, drug smuggling has surged. Most likely, so is sex trafficking.

The 2022 elections are looking grim for Democrats.


More of a trend than a dip. Look at the approval margin under the two graphs.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

The results like no wall and no wall paid for by Mexico?

 

[Jay59]

If you had asked any reasonable person, "What will Biden's approval look like during his first year?" they probably would have drawn a graph similar to the one in the OP.

That depends on your definition of reasonable. Most Biden supporters would not qualify, since they were exchanging a proven competent President for a proven incompetent man in mental decline. Most people who did not vote for Biden expected a sharper decline, due to his pronounced handicaps concerning the job.

The results like no wall and no wall paid for by Mexico?

Results like no illegal crossings. That was the point from the beginning and why it was a promise fulfilled.

However, you are providing an excellent example of unreasonable vis a vis the first post quoted.

 

[tres borrachos]

That depends on your definition of reasonable. Most Biden supporters would not qualify, since they were exchanging a proven competent President for a proven incompetent man in mental decline. Most people who did not vote for Biden expected a sharper decline, due to his pronounced handicaps concerning the job.


Results like no illegal crossings. That was the point from the beginning and why it was a promise fulfilled.

However, you are providing an excellent example of unreasonable vis a vis the first post quoted.

"No illegal crossings". HAHA. So that means Trump lied, and there was no crisis at the border, because no illegals were coming over.

This keeps getting better.