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Biden's early-presidency getaways so far outpace Trump's


How about that?

As a Biden supporter who criticized Trump for his incessant golfing at his courses, I guess I have no room to speak!

Anyway, just thought I'd toss this article out there . . .
I never had a problem with the golf. It's just a different way to work at that level.

Trump was known for twelve-hour days and 80-hour weeks. It wasn't all done at the office and some of it was on the links, but it was all work.

Biden is the opposite. Days off, one event in a day, starting at eleven and retiring by three o'clock, etc. He can do that because he is not the one making decisions. He was never expected to be.
 
Trump was known for twelve-hour days and 80-hour weeks. It wasn't all done at the office and some of it was on the links, but it was all work.
Bull! Most of it was with minions who feined adoring loyalty. Trump only surrounded himself with sycophants who were happy to let him cheat at golf in hopes they would garner a favourable tweet. It was always, and still is, only about him.
 
. Days off, one event in a day, starting at eleven and retiring by three o'clock, etc
Love to see you prove that one with facts.
 
I never had a problem with the golf. It's just a different way to work at that level.

Trump was known for twelve-hour days and 80-hour weeks. It wasn't all done at the office and some of it was on the links, but it was all work.

Biden is the opposite. Days off, one event in a day, starting at eleven and retiring by three o'clock, etc. He can do that because he is not the one making decisions. He was never expected to be.
Thanks for the laugh.

Trump didn't start his day until late morning most days. Before that, he was tweeting from his toilet and watching Fox & Friends.

Then he usually quit late afternoon.




 
So? All your guy ever achieved was winning the ovarian lottery and then squandering Daddy's cash so fast only a corrupt German bank would bail him out.

You may want to rethink things before making more silly statements.

There is one way to accumulate massive wealth as a public servant. MBNA Joe found it early.
 
Thanks for the laugh.

Trump didn't start his day until late morning most days. Before that, he was tweeting from his toilet and watching Fox & Friends.

Then he usually quit late afternoon.




Isn't it hilarious how much they lie for the guy?
 
There is one way to accumulate massive wealth as a public servant. MBNA Joe found it early.
Joe Biden did NOT accumulate massive wealth as a public servant. He did not "find it early".

In 2007, his final year as a Delaware senator, the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics ranked Mr. Biden as the least wealthy senator.

Family issues added to the financial stress. In 2014, as his oldest son, Beau Biden, was suffering from terminal brain cancer, Mr. Biden told then-President Obama that he might need to take out a second mortgage on his house to help Beau’s family make ends meet.

Mr. Biden’s finances in his second-to-last year as vice president looked especially precarious. He reported between $291,000 and about $1 million in assets and income outside his vice-presidential salary of $230,700, and between $780,000 and about $1.6 million in liabilities, according to his 2016 personal financial disclosure form, the last one he filed in office. Leaving the government sparked a financial turnaround, subsequent financial documents show.

 
Bull! Most of it was with minions who feined adoring loyalty. Trump only surrounded himself with sycophants who were happy to let him cheat at golf in hopes they would garner a favourable tweet. It was always, and still is, only about him.
You can hate it you must. It does not make what you say plausible, much less true.

Love to see you prove that one with facts.
It is literally hard to find a day he is in public view after 3:00 PM, unless it's a scheduled event. In that case, it will be the first time he appears during the day.

Thanks for the laugh.

Trump didn't start his day until late morning most days. Before that, he was tweeting from his toilet and watching Fox & Friends. Then he usually quit late afternoon.

You realize your own posts and the links support my statement, right? Tweeting and watching Fox is part of the job, for example.

Trump is famous for being up at all hours, much of it keeping current on MSM and composing responses, many of them tweeted. What the article calls executive time is making calls, sending messages, reviewing reports, etc. This is in addition to his office time, which is one of the places he took meetings. For less formal meetings, golf.

I will give you that Trump did not keep routine hours, but he was a workaholic.
 
...How about that?

As a Biden supporter who criticized Trump for his incessant golfing at his courses, I guess I have no room to speak!

Anyway, just thought I'd toss this article out there . . .
I wouldn't mind his travels so much if he had a hands on approach to governing. The only two destinations Biden should be spending any time in are West Virginia and Arizona, which he has refused to do...
 
You can hate it you must. It does not make what you say plausible, much less true.


It is literally hard to find a day he is in public view after 3:00 PM, unless it's a scheduled event. In that case, it will be the first time he appears during the day.


You realize your own posts and the links support my statement, right? Tweeting and watching Fox is part of the job, for example.

Trump is famous for being up at all hours, much of it keeping current on MSM and composing responses, many of them tweeted. What the article calls executive time is making calls, sending messages, reviewing reports, etc. This is in addition to his office time, which is one of the places he took meetings. For less formal meetings, golf.

I will give you that Trump did not keep routine hours, but he was a workaholic.
Do you honestly believe that tweeting and watching TV is part of the presidential job description? That is a job for a low-level PR flunky, not the CIC.
 
Do you honestly believe that tweeting and watching TV is part of the presidential job description? That is a job for a low-level flunky, not the CIC.
I believe staying current on news and making appropriate adjustments is part of the job description.

Most likely, so do you. You merely have an issue with the methodology. Yes, there are lower-level people who can make certain nothing is missed, but first-hand experience and instant reaction are always best if possible.
 
I believe staying current on news and making appropriate adjustments is part of the job description. You merely have an issue with the methodology.
You said, "Tweeting and watching Fox is part of the job". It's not.
 
Joe Biden did NOT accumulate massive wealth as a public servant. He did not "find it early".

In 2007, his final year as a Delaware senator, the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics ranked Mr. Biden as the least wealthy senator.

Family issues added to the financial stress. In 2014, as his oldest son, Beau Biden, was suffering from terminal brain cancer, Mr. Biden told then-President Obama that he might need to take out a second mortgage on his house to help Beau’s family make ends meet.

Mr. Biden’s finances in his second-to-last year as vice president looked especially precarious. He reported between $291,000 and about $1 million in assets and income outside his vice-presidential salary of $230,700, and between $780,000 and about $1.6 million in liabilities, according to his 2016 personal financial disclosure form, the last one he filed in office. Leaving the government sparked a financial turnaround, subsequent financial documents show.


Lol, did Jill write that for him?
 
literally hard to find a day he is in public view after 3:00 PM, unless it's a scheduled event. In that case, it will be the first time he appears during the day.
I guess because your guy used the Presidency as a reality TV show you have been conditioned to believe the Presidency consists mainly of public events. Nothing could be further from the truth. The real work is done without lights, cameras, action!
 
Possible wasteful and unnecessary expenditures of federal taxpayers dollars protecting POTUS is OP’s point.

Comparing amounts spent on previous presidents, and the justification for those expenditures is a logical part of the discussion.

Hope that clears things up for you. 👍
Nope. Actually, the point is spelled out right in the OP:

"As a Biden supporter who criticized Trump for his incessant golfing at his courses, I guess I have no room to speak!"

Glad I could help with your reading comprehension. 👍
 
I guess because your guy used the Presidency as a reality TV show you have been conditioned to believe the Presidency consists mainly of public events. Nothing could be further from the truth. The real work is done without lights, cameras, action!
Then why do focus only on Trump's public appearances? If there is so much more to the job, why do never focus on the part that matters? Perhaps, it's because Trump looks good when viewed with an eye to performance.

The Trump administration has a long list of accomplishments--economy, jobs, foreign policy, tax law, regulatory reform, judiciary, energy, immigration, COVID vaccine, etc. The list is long and the achievements extensive. So much for "just" a reality TV star.

As to Biden, he doesn't understand what he is reading from the prompter. He cannot take questions because "they don't like it." Your Emperor's wardrobe is a bit spare.
 
Nope. Actually, the point is spelled out right in the OP:

"As a Biden supporter who criticized Trump for his incessant golfing at his courses, I guess I have no room to speak!"

Glad I could help with your reading comprehension. 👍
😄 Clearly, reading comprehension is a real problem for you if you think @Chomsky ’s point was admitting hypocrisy in previous posts.
 
Anyone who is paying attention and getting factual information knows that Biden is working on the people business long hours each day. He doesn't have " personal time" mornings in the private residence watching TV, tweeting, calling allies and afternoon hours of self-aggrandizing publicity spots. People criticizing Biden have zero knowledge of his daily schedule because their preferred media sources choose not to cover his public events or daily schedule.

FWIW today he is in face to face discussions with Manchin and Schumer over how they can move forward with climate initiatives Manchin can support. He has been totally involved on a personal level with negotiating a deal to get these two bills across the finish line. He has done it by rolling up his sleeves and getting in the mud instead of pulling a Trump and trying to insult and bully people into doing what he wants done. Trump didn't get one single deal done in his four years, even when he had total control. Biden is going to get three huge bills , bills which he campaigns on, done in year one!
Yeah, we were promised votes on those bills a month ago... and now the price tag and benefits are being stripped out left and right. I think we can judge the bills when presented; seems like negotiating to have them done when promised was cutting into his vacation time. Kinda like the Afghanistan withdrawal, where he was MIA and had to rush back to the White House to address the issue before leaving again to go back on vacation.
 
😄 Clearly, reading comprehension is a real problem for you if you think @Chomsky ’s point was admitting hypocrisy in previous posts.
Admitting? LOL.. Nope. Exactly the opposite, by showing he's not. But thanks for trying.
 
You realize your own posts and the links support my statement, right? Tweeting and watching Fox is part of the job, for example.

Trump is famous for being up at all hours, much of it keeping current on MSM and composing responses, many of them tweeted. What the article calls executive time is making calls, sending messages, reviewing reports, etc. This is in addition to his office time, which is one of the places he took meetings. For less formal meetings, golf.

I will give you that Trump did not keep routine hours, but he was a workaholic.

Oh, so Jay59 is a parody account. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the future.
 
Yeah, we were promised votes on those bills a month ago... and now the price tag and benefits are being stripped out left and right. I think we can judge the bills when presented; seems like negotiating to have them done when promised was cutting into his vacation time. Kinda like the Afghanistan withdrawal, where he was MIA and had to rush back to the White House to address the issue before leaving again to go back on vacation.
It's just practicality.

Promising the moon is easy. Now that they have to try for a vote, they need something that's in the right ballpark. A bit more cutting and they will have something that they can use as an opening offer. Then the negotiations start. It's worth noting that Pelosi has only a three-vote cushion..

Oh, so Jay59 is a parody account. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the future.
Resignation, not parody. They are part of the job, ie keeping up on the news and daily correspondence, just stated as baldly as possible.
 
Federal budgets and extraordinary expenditures of taxpayers dollars spent on a president’s security/personal leisure are entirely different subjects.

And Trump’s, or any other president’s, excessive use of taxpayer dollars to fund literally hundreds of personal trips is certainly deserving of criticism.

I'm not sure these criticisms are valid, as each President runs up the security costs based upon the risk they assume.

There's a lot to complain about Trump, I do it all day long, but the security costs are not one of them.. Nor is the time away from the WH. Now, I think it's fair to criticize Trump lining his pockets with tax-payer monies by using his properties, but he does have that right. i really don't see this as such a big deal in the scheme of things. There's many more egregious Trump actions to go after.
 
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