Biden Will Regret Sharing Trump WH Records With 1/6 Committee, Suggests Former President

[ouch]

We happen to be talking about the House 1/6 dog and pony show. McCarthy has nothing to do with that and McConnell is in the Senate. (You didn't know that?)

Since you didn't grasp my drift, and once you listen to your own words, what I responded with addressed, in part (McCarthy and McConnell), your point.

Your words ->

Our elected officials weren't put into office to find ways to use their congressional powers for corrupt political purposes. They were put there to represent their voters and enact legislation

McCarthy and McConnell are elected officials who abuse their Congressional powers. They aren't alone, but make fine examples.

But I agree that McCarthy and McConnell do the same thing Pelosi is doing right now.

They all use their powers to make political crap happen. Liker I stated earlier, this new century of such Republicans do so more than the Dems. As much as I dislike that, when it comes to money grubbing political chicanery the Republicans know their underhanded sh*t.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

I did not say Biden was usurping any power. I said the house is attempting to usurp the executive privilege power that belongs to the presidency. Biden is just cooperating in weakening the office.

My mistake. You did say the House. But... it's not the House's decision. They are just asking for the records and interviews. It's Biden, and probably the courts, who will decide the issue.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

That is because before television, a president who incited "a riot" and let enemy flags get carried through the capitol, along with 6MWE t-shirts, would have quietly gone away and nobody would ever speak of them again.

^^^^^this!

 

[Mycroft]

If it's a fishing expedition, there trump has nothing to worry about if records are released.

Why do you think Trump should cooperate with someone who wants to spin a damaging narrative?

 

[Mycroft]

Drumpf isn't the POTUS, he was booted by the American voters. He had executive privilege's before being cast aside by the voters in 2020. EP ended the day Joe Biden took over the Oval office. Like the guy said, it was in the papers.

So...you'll be okay with the Republican winner of the next election demanding privileged information about WH conversations about Hunter Biden, right?

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, and the prosecution acknowledged that Charles Manson was nowhere near the crime scenes when the murders took place. Nevertheless, he was charged with and convicted of murder.

President Trump was safely ensconced in the WH when the actual riot took place. Nevertheless, his words and actions before and during the riot need to be thoroughly examined and evaluated. And since you are convinced that Trump did nothing even inappropriate, you should have no problem with all of it becoming public, as it will totally vindicate your hero. You know, just like the Mueller report totally vindicated Trump, proving he was completely innocent of any wrongdoing.

Sorry...the FBI didn't make that distinction...and you shouldn't either.

(Unless you don't mind being dishonest.)

 

[Mycroft]

this new century of such Republicans do so more than the Dems

Seriously???

You honestly think you can credibly say this after four years and counting of Nancy using her congressional powers to attack Trump?

Dude...you are dismissed.

 

[craig]

Transparency is the only way to keep government accountable. So no executive privilege unless it meets a very narrowly defined national security exclusion. Political embarrassment is not national security.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

So...you'll be okay with the Republican winner of the next election demanding privileged information about WH conversations about Hunter Biden, right?

Congress has a job to do. Perhaps you recall someone named Hillary Clinton? She was "investigated" by Congress for 25 years (Whitewater, Travelgate, BENGHAAZI!, private server, etc., etc.) They, along with the FBI (twice) never referred anything for criminal prosecution. Later, GOP congress critters admitted the whole point was to hurt Hillary politically, not to prosecute her criminally.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, and suddenly you have a problem with "dog and pony shows"? Pleas spare us your sanctimony.

 

[jpevans]

Is that a joke? Nancy Pelosi refused to allow McCarthy to seat the people he chose. This has never happened before in the house. Pelosi herself, by denying that choice , turned the 1-6 committee into a partisan dog and pony show.

Why was it so important to Pelosi to keep anyone off the committee that might disagree with their preplanned outcome? Even a mass murderer get's legal representation in court.

Repeat! Speaker Pelosi refused two members who could be called as witnesses.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

Is that a joke? Nancy Pelosi refused to allow McCarthy to seat the people he chose. This has never happened before in the house. Pelosi herself, by denying that choice , turned the 1-6 committee into a partisan dog and pony show.

Why was it so important to Pelosi to keep anyone off the committee that might disagree with their preplanned outcome? Even a mass murderer get's legal representation in court.

Perhaps you have forgotten about the Senate vote on a bipartisan investigation? The one the Republicans killed? This being the proposal that the Democrats negotiated in good faith with Republican Congressman John Katko. The proposal that " was modeled on the one established to investigate the 9/11 terror attacks, with 10 commissioners — five Democrats and five Republicans — who would have subpoena powers. A Democratic chair and Republican vice chair would have had to approve all subpoenas with a final report due at the end of the year." https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/1000...-independent-commission-on-jan-6-capitol-riot

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Perhaps you have forgotten about the Senate vote on a bipartisan investigation? The one the Republicans killed? This being the proposal that the Democrats negotiated in good faith with Republican Congressman John Katko. The proposal that " was modeled on the one established to investigate the 9/11 terror attacks, with 10 commissioners — five Democrats and five Republicans — who would have subpoena powers. A Democratic chair and Republican vice chair would have had to approve all subpoenas with a final report due at the end of the year." https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/1000...-independent-commission-on-jan-6-capitol-riot

Don't bother Trumpsters with facts. They have declared it a 'dog and pony show' and that it what it is, regardless of how the GOP made it so.

The GOP wants no investigation into the events leading up to and during the 1/6 insurrection. They have stated that in plain language. FACTS!

 

[ouch]

Please. Stop with the hyperbole and lies. There were not "1000s of assailants" and there were few windows/doors smashed. Hell, there were more doors opened by police inviting people into the building.

Ah yes, it was a family reunion picnic, I forgot. It was estimated that 30,000 were on Capitol Hill, but I say more. I'm sticking with 1000s assaulted our Capitol Building and cops - although there's no way to count/connect who threw all the punches during that assault. Total arrests may not reach 1,000. It's over 600 so far the last I saw.

Trump is not a cop.

Correct. He was the damn nation's commander in chief and if you have forgotten that surpasses command over all cops. The asshole stood by without making a cease-and-desist style order to his rioting crowd for hours! You know what usually happens to a chicken sh*t idiot commander in a combat zone like that? If his troops doesn't get him, higher command will.

And yes...there were a bunch of Capitol police who just stood by and watched everything that happened.

In which every swinging dickhead should be charged, and, or relieved of their duty without any retirement. Collaborating cops with anti-government stormers trespassers should be dealt with by heavy hands.

 

[MTAtech]

Meh. You see what you want or what MSNBC tells you to see.

Back to the point I was making. The house is attempting to usurp a power that belongs to the presidency. Separation of powers should be protected by all 3 branches. Biden as president should stand up and protect "executive privilege". Political expediency is not a good choice for giving up a power.

That's patently false. The presidency has no power to hide a president's malfeasance under the blanket of executive privilege. The issue was decided in United States v Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974). In that case, President Nixon claimed he could use executive privilege to withhold audio tapes from the congressional committee investigating Watergate.

The Supreme Court held, unanimously, that neither the doctrine of separation of powers, nor the generalized need for confidentiality of high-level communications can sustain an absolute, unqualified, presidential privilege. The Court granted that there was a limited executive privilege in areas of military or diplomatic affairs, but gave preference to "the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of justice." Therefore, the president must obey the subpoena and produce the tapes and documents. Nixon resigned shortly after the release of the tapes.

United States Supreme Court case that resulted in a unanimous decision against President Richard Nixon, ordering him to deliver tape recordings and other subpoenaed materials to a federal district court.

Thus, there is no power to usurp, as the SCOTUS already ruled, in a very similar case, that this is Congress' right.

 

[ouch]

EVERY president doesn't want people to know what goes on behind closed doors at the WH. That's why Trump is correct when he says this is a big mistake that they'll regret.

Well, maybe one did.

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[NolanVoyd]

1000% baloney.

Nah.

Those are facts. You can refute them.

You have been conned. Aren't you getting sick of it?

 

[ouch]

It doesn't matter. If privileged information isn't privileged anymore, it doesn't matter if you are a saint. Someone with an agenda can always find something to spin against you.

Oh I know the perfect example to your statement.

DJT!

 

[MAGAnificent]

Nah.

Those are facts. You can refute them.

You have been conned. Aren't you getting sick of it?

I have not...however you have been indoctrinated.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The committee has only two R's on it, because McCarty withdrew the three of five he proposed after two were rejected for being posible witnesses & giving their promise to befoul the process.

What a load. Did you get that from DNC central?

 

[MAGAnificent]

Get back to me on that Oct 31.

Will you be wearing the Nancy Pelosi mask?

 

[MTAtech]

The FBI already said he wasn't involved in the riot.

The FBI has not found evidence that Trump organized the insurrection. They didn't conclude that he was not involved. FBI didn't have all the information -- that's why Congress is having hearings.

But let's look at the disconnect: You say that the FBI said he wasn't involved in the riot. but Trump is fighting to withhold documents that may show he WAS involved. If those documents show he wasn't involved, you'd think he wouldn't be fighting.

Trump is like a teenage girl whose parents are searching her room. "No Mom, don't look in my bottom dresser draw. There is nothing to see there!"

 

[NolanVoyd]

I have not...however you have been indoctrinated.

Lol.

I am the one providing facts, with citations.

You can't refute them.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Interesting that the Republicans were given the opportunity to participate in an investigation of 1/6 on a full bipartisan basis. This would have eliminated any perceived bias in the proceedings. But, no. The Republicans would rather hide the facts of 1/6 and scream "witch hunt".

No, they were not. The old hag sitting in the speaker chair made sure that any republicans who would question the "Trump did it" narrative would be barred from the committee.

 

[Plasmaball]

Of course, I can blame her...and you should, too.

Our elected officials weren't put into office to find ways to use their congressional powers for corrupt political purposes. They were put there to represent their voters and enact legislation.

Pelosi has perverted the very purpose of Congress and only uses her congressional power to find ways to damage her political opponents.

Stop gaslighting

 

[BlueTex]

So...you'll be okay with the Republican winner of the next election demanding privileged information about WH conversations about Hunter Biden, right?

The records being requested are not the property of Trump nor Biden.. They are the property of the American people.. This is well established law..