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Biden wants to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines

RF667799 said:
You're once again failing to comprehend the incredible vastness and diversity of this country.

Why should people in the teeming 'burbs and slums of the east coast have much to say about how people thousands of miles away in South Dakota choose to live? They shouldn't. The South Dakota lifestyle might be as incomprehensible to them, as the idea of people buying motor vehicles they can't legally use on the public highways was to you.
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All the system now does is reverse that and has South Dakota telling the Burbs what to do so I'm unsure why that's better?

It's one group telling another what to do and in this case it's the group with fewer people.

It's just an odd system.
 
Peter said:
If car accidents were anything similar to intentional gun crimes you may have a point but they aren't.

The clue is in the word accidents.
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Accidental deaths are easier to prevent through legislation than are deliberate murders.

All the airbags and seat belts and 5 mph bumpers on that Ford Explorer of the Wisconsin Parade Killer, didn't help his victims a bit.
 
Peter said:
All the system now does is reverse that and has South Dakota telling the Burbs what to do so I'm unsure why that's better?

It's one group telling another what to do and in this case it's the group with fewer people.

It's just an odd system.
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It doesn't tell them what to do. It tells them what they can't do to limit and restrict the rights and civil liberties of others.
 
braindrain said:
Does that make you less dead. Does it make it something people fear less.
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Just look at the gun death figures in Europe compared to the US.
Do you notice anything?
 
Sabre said:
Most people base their opinion of what is an assault weapon on appearance, which is about like this
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Oh Dear God not this stupid argument again. It's about as stupid as the statement that guns don't kill people, people do.

So if guns don't kill people why do we make it easy for people to acquire them that want to kill people?
 
Peter said:
If both houses are involved in making laws then they should both use the population to decide representation.
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see again here you just want to throw away the Constitution.
No it shouldn't be that way it should be the way the Constitution prescribes and that's the way it is the way it is is because the Constitution says so.
It just seems odd that they don't but then again I come from the UK that has the House of Lords which is a ****ed up mess of epic proportions so I could be wrong.
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the US has States in it and they were constitutionally given power. This is in the Constitution. Don't have a monarch any more. It is the backbone from which our country is built it's not supposed to be easily changed.

Seriously, if you don't know what the house of lords is don't bother looking as it'll confuse the **** out of you.
It's our second chamber where laws are scrutinsed and it's all sorts of bonkers.
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I'm not trying to be rude here but I don't know what it is I don't care it's not my country. I'm irritated having to keep up with our politics and no interest in keeping up with foreign politics.

I get that American politics are entertaining probably more so than most other countries and so I don't mind foreign people commenting on our politics and some of the stuff that happens is pretty stupid here.

But again have to know how it works the government doesn't do things it isn't constitutional if they do every bit of time they spend on it is wasted because the supreme Court comes in and just takes it away.

That's how it's meant to work.
 
Chillfolks said:
If it was truly popular then it would be supported by enough people across all the states who would demand their senators take action. The problem is this isn’t the case.
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70% is pretty popular.

The polls are constant on that.
 
Bucky said:


Once again, the president is acting like a dictator, attempting to bypass Congress to implement rules and regulations that the American people don’t want.

Biden will likely issue executive orders which exceed his authority to restrict Second Amendment rights.

This is a slap in the face to law-abiding citizens.
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GOOD!
 
Peter said:
Just look at the gun death figures in Europe compared to the US.
Do you notice anything?
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It hard to not notice you keep running away from justifying why you think Americans have to live in constant fear.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Oh Dear God not this stupid argument again. It's about as stupid as the statement that guns don't kill people, people do.

So if guns don't kill people why do we make it easy for people to acquire them that want to kill people?
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Because they need to be easy to acquire people who want to own them for legal purposes. Purposes such as having the ability to stop somebody who got a firearm who wants to kill you.

I don't know why this is such a hard thing to understand.
 
braindrain said:
It hard to not notice you keep running away from justifying why you think Americans have to live in constant fear.
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Mainly because of the stupidly high death toll from guns at the moment.
It's not a good thing.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
I’d be totally fine with that being an elective class actually. And people take their 14 year olds shooting all the time.
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People wouldn't be taking their kids shooting, is the thing. With that permit, that 14 y/o gets to drive by themselves to school. do you want 14y/o carrying their own gun to school?
 
Peter said:
Mainly because of the stupidly high death toll from guns at the moment.
It's not a good thing.
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There is no high dental from guns guns do not kill people that can't.

I'm going to be a civil as possible. Guns do not have a nervous system or a mind of their own they just sit there until somebody picks it up.

You aren't going to stop people from killing each other or committing suicide by making a law that says you can't own a gun no just own one anyway like they do now.
 
Peter said:
Just look at the gun death figures in Europe compared to the US.
Do you notice anything?
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We going to include the Ukraine and Russia?
 
NolanVoyd said:
70% is pretty popular.

The polls are constant on that.
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I would be interested to see if anybody them could define an assault weapon or if they are simply in favor of banning something they know little about
 
CLAX1911 said:
It's good that the president acts like a dictator and a freshest only to get yet again b**** slapped by the supreme Court? you guys must love losing, more than Republicans. That's a feat
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Yea he's a dictator. You guys must love weapons designed to kill more than life itself. Let the bought and paid for Supreme repukes vote for death. **** THEM AND THOSE THAT THINK ASSAULT RIFLES ARE PERFECTLY FINE!!!!
 
EnigmaO01 said:
No it is not and you know it.
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Well there's some reason you're focusing your attention on a rifle that is overwhelmingly used peacefully and lawfully.
 
Peter said:
Mainly because of the stupidly high death toll from guns at the moment.
It's not a good thing.
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So live in constant fear from being killed from a murderer with a gun but not from doing in a car wreck despite the odds of dying in a car wreck being more likely.

And gun control zealots wonder why supporters of the 2nd amendment doing take them seriously.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Yea he's a dictator. You guys must love weapons designed to kill more than life itself. Let the bought and paid for Supreme repukes vote for death. **** THEM AND THOSE THAT THINK ASSAULT RIFLES ARE PERFECTLY FINE!!!!
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Dang. I hope you didn't shit yourself with that outburst.
 
Peter said:
Is the US a warzone?
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Some neighborhoods are pretty close. That's another thing you might not understand from your distance. Vast, vast areas are as safe or safer than anywhere in Europe. Despite having a lot of guns available.
 
Chillfolks said:
I would be interested to see if anybody them could define an assault weapon or if they are simply in favor of banning something they know little about
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The whole thing about the definition is nonsense.

Whatever the definition is in a final bill would have been negotiated and voted on. If that bill becomes law then the definition it contains becomes the legal definition.

What's the problem?
 
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