Biden rule to shield 'Dreamers' seeks to bypass Congress

[Overitall]

Congress should have addressed this long ago......its not Biden's fault that they don't do their damn job.

Wasn't Biden once part of Congress?

 

[vegas giants]

He also knows that by the time the SC smacks him down the damage he does will already be in place.

What damage?

 

[ClaraD]

It's weird how little i want to see kids who grew up here kicked out of the country and how much others want exactly that.

The people who want that aren't good people. They are devoid of compassion or empathy and that is exactly what is wrong with our society and culture.

 

[ClaraD]

Wasn't Biden once part of Congress?

One person cannot change it. He multiple times made efforts to pass legislation that would reform immigration laws...and he was part of the administration that protected those very dreamers.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Again, this is the issue we face when a President wants to sort of legislate something into being so because Congress is too paralyzed to do anything about Immigration in a proper manner.

With this subject specifically you have all three branches of government out of alignment.

What a damn quagmire.

 

[Overitall]

One person cannot change it. He multiple times made efforts to pass legislation that would reform immigration laws...and he was part of the administration that protected those very dreamers.

But he did run on the premise of being able to reach across the aisle to get things done. I don't see any evidence that he even tried on this issue.

 

[Overitall]

What damage?

Are you sheltered from the news?

 

[vegas giants]

But he did run on the premise of being able to reach across the aisle to get things done. I don't see any evidence that he even tried on this issue.

One can only reach so far

 

[vegas giants]

Are you sheltered from the news?

No.


What damage is caused by letting kids that grew up here stay here?

 

[ClaraD]

But he did run on the premise of being able to reach across the aisle to get things done. I don't see any evidence that he even tried on this issue.

perhaps it is time for Republicans to retract their claws and quit refusing to work on agreements that are bipartisan in nature.....remember when that used to happen? McConnell decided that he would refuse to work with any Democrat when Obama was elected...God help us all for electing, not only a black man, but one whose father was a Muslim and immigrant and biracial....because his momma married a black man....the ultimate sin to those segregationist folks...and spare me the McConnell married an Asian woman...they do that, because they think that Asians are submissive.

 

[BlueTex]

We have to start somewhere. And then there is the MSM who is the third arm of the Democrat party. Trump exposed it all.

This makes me laugh.. all Trump exposed is how gullible and ignorant some voters on the right are

 

[eohrnberger]

It's weird how little i want to see kids who grew up here kicked out of the country and how much others want exactly that.

The people who want that aren't good people. They are devoid of compassion or empathy and that is exactly what is wrong with our society and culture.

DACA kids are one of the eventual outcomes of illegal immigration. With Biden's de-facto open border, there's going to be many more such cases in the future.
If there was no illegal immigration, there'd be no DACA kids. So there's a pretty clear solution to prevent DACA kids, isn't there?

 

[vegas giants]

DACA kids are one of the eventual outcomes of illegal immigration. With Biden's de-facto open border, there's going to be many more such cases in the future.
If there was no illegal immigration, there'd be no DACA kids. So there's a pretty clear solution to prevent DACA kids, isn't there?

That does not address the problem that exists

 

[ClaraD]

DACA kids are one of the eventual outcomes of illegal immigration. With Biden's de-facto open border, there's going to be many more such cases in the future.
If there was no illegal immigration, there'd be no DACA kids. So there's a pretty clear solution to prevent DACA kids, isn't there?

Biden's open border? Seems to me I recently saw evidence of border agents still out there working at that border...there is no open border and what we have here is the result of Republicans refusing to do their job.

 

[ClaraD]

That does not address the problem that exists

not to mention it is false.

 

[Helix]

DACA kids are one of the eventual outcomes of illegal immigration. With Biden's de-facto open border, there's going to be many more such cases in the future.
If there was no illegal immigration, there'd be no DACA kids. So there's a pretty clear solution to prevent DACA kids, isn't there?

My strategy is voting.

 

[calamity]

Biden's open border? Seems to me I recently saw evidence of border agents still out there working at that border...there is no open border and what we have here is the result of Republicans refusing to do their job.

Racists lie and pretend there is a problem where one is not--as we all know, there is no open border. It's lie.

Of course, pointing to brown people while they scream about "Invaders!" helps their cause among the faithful racists in their cult.

 

[calamity]

DACA kids are one of the eventual outcomes of illegal immigration. With Biden's de-facto open border, there's going to be many more such cases in the future.
If there was no illegal immigration, there'd be no DACA kids. So there's a pretty clear solution to prevent DACA kids, isn't there?

There is no open border, only racists who lie about it.

 

[eohrnberger]

Biden's open border? Seems to me I recently saw evidence of border agents still out there working at that border...there is no open border and what we have here is the result of Republicans refusing to do their job.

The Sunday interview of Mayorkas with Wallace he stated that some 12,000 migrants who presented themselves at the border were transported to the interior of the country, a large number of them without even immigration court dates or COVID tests, never to be heard from again. That, by definition, is not only an open border, but also a potential public health risk.

Play with the words all you want, this is the reality, and it is in effect and in reality, an open border.

 

[calamity]

The Sunday interview of Mayorkas with Wallace he stated that some 12,000 migrants who presented themselves at the border were transported to the interior of the country, a large number of them without even immigration court dates or COVID tests, never to be heard from again. That, by definition, is not only an open border, but also a potential public health risk.

Play with the words all you want, this is the reality, and it is in effect and in reality, an open border.

lol...

"Oh Noes! Brown People!"

 

[ClaraD]

The Sunday interview of Mayorkas with Wallace he stated that some 12,000 migrants who presented themselves at the border were transported to the interior of the country, a large number of them without even immigration court dates or COVID tests, never to be heard from again. That, by definition, is not only an open border, but also a potential public health risk.

Play with the words all you want, this is the reality, and it is in effect and in reality, an open border.

you realize the lack of court dates means that they will eventually be sent one? They were given an NTA and yes, they were tested for Covid 19 before being released or they were held for 2 weeks in isolation...which is all you are required to do when you come from outside the country as a citizen. I thought you were against forced vaccination and testing? Oh, except for them brown folks right? The reason they weren't given immediate court dates, is because Trump decimated the immigration courts.

 

[calamity]

you realize the lack of court dates means that they will eventually be sent one? They were given an NTA and yes, they were tested for Covid 19 before being released or they were held for 2 weeks in isolation...which is all you are required to do when you come from outside the country as a citizen. I thought you were against forced vaccination and testing? Oh, except for them brown folks right? The reason they weren't given immediate court dates, is because Trump decimated the immigration courts.

Racists won't listen to facts.

 

[eohrnberger]

you realize the lack of court dates means that they will eventually be sent one?

Sent one? Like using the USPS? To which mailing address?
If the government is going to find these people they are going to have to get ICE to investigate and track them down, as they've disappeared into the interior of the country.

They were given an NTA and yes, they were tested for Covid 19 before being released or they were held for 2 weeks in isolation...which is all you are required to do when you come from outside the country as a citizen. I thought you were against forced vaccination and testing? Oh, except for them brown folks right?

You seem to be firmly committed to the talking point that this process is what each migrant goes through. I think that's unrealistic and overly naive.
There has been reporting to the contrary:

Border Patrol not testing migrants for COVID before they're released across US

Migrants who illegally come across the U.S.-Mexico border and are apprehended by Border Patrol are not being tested for the coronavirus before being released from custody and allowed to travel across the United States, the Washington Examiner has learned.

www.yahoo.com

50,000 migrants released into U.S. without court date

The numbers are a sign of just how overwhelmed some sectors of the U.S.-Mexico border continue to be.

www.axios.com

The reason they weren't given immediate court dates, is because Trump decimated the immigration courts.

Reporting above asserts many are being released without any NTA.

The immigration courts have had years of backlog for decades, it's part of the problem which ends up their being released into the interior of the country, only to disappear into the 'shadows'. This has been the situation very much even before Trump's admin, your deflection away from reality and history noted.

 

[calamity]

Sent one? Like using the USPS? To which mailing address?
If the government is going to find these people they are going to have to get ICE to investigate and track them down, as they've disappeared into the interior of the country.

You seem to be firmly committed to the talking point that this process is what each migrant goes through. I think that's unrealistic and overly naive.
There has been reporting to the contrary:

Border Patrol not testing migrants for COVID before they're released across US

Migrants who illegally come across the U.S.-Mexico border and are apprehended by Border Patrol are not being tested for the coronavirus before being released from custody and allowed to travel across the United States, the Washington Examiner has learned.

www.yahoo.com

50,000 migrants released into U.S. without court date

The numbers are a sign of just how overwhelmed some sectors of the U.S.-Mexico border continue to be.

www.axios.com

Reporting above asserts many are being released without any NTA.

The immigration courts have had years of backlog for decades, it's part of the problem which ends up their being released into the interior of the country, only to disappear into the 'shadows'. This has been the situation very much even before Trump's admin, your deflection away from reality and history noted.

Brown people bother you that much?

Wow!

 

[Chomsky]

The dreamer legislation has overwhelming popular support. The GOP is obstructing it because…well…that’s their thing.

It’s a problem that’s vastly overdue to be fixed, and the GOP has proven incapable of doing it. Maybe a new approach is good.

IIRCC, Obama's DACA E.O. was shot down by SCOTUS due to procedural issues.

If Biden does his E.O.'s properly, I suspect they will be Constitutional.