Biden made a HUGE tactical mistake on the infrastructure deal

[Shrink726]

After weeks of arduous negotiation, Joe got R's to agree to a ~$1T bipartisan infrastructure bill. No sooner does he accomplish this, he then tells everyone that he won't sign it unless there's a companion $3T spending bill attached to it. Maybe not the brightest tactical move in the history of political negotiations. Cue R's turning tail and heading for ze hills.
C'mon Joe, I love you but use your head!
Ughhhhh.

Republican resistance grows over Biden's infrastructure and policing plans

GOP opposition is hardening over a massive infrastructure plan and a revamp of policing laws, scrambling the prospects of two of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities at a crucial juncture on Capitol Hill.

www.cnn.com

 

[Greenbeard]

He already got the photo opp of a bipartisan group of Senators standing together at a podium agreeing to a deal. Doesn't matter if the GOP reneges now, provided this song-and-dance was enough to secure 50 Dem votes for a reconciliation bill even in the absence of GOP votes. Biden tried the bipartisan thing; if the GOP's going to GOP, time to put it all in a single reconciliation package.

 

[nvflash]

After weeks of arduous negotiation, Joe got R's to agree to a ~$1T bipartisan infrastructure bill. No sooner does he accomplish this, he then tells everyone that he won't sign it unless there's a companion $3T spending bill attached to it. Maybe not the brightest tactical move in the history of political negotiations. Cue R's turning tail and heading for ze hills.
C'mon Joe, I love you but use your head!
Ughhhhh.

Republican resistance grows over Biden's infrastructure and policing plans

GOP opposition is hardening over a massive infrastructure plan and a revamp of policing laws, scrambling the prospects of two of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities at a crucial juncture on Capitol Hill.

www.cnn.com

I agree that was a mistake when I read it too.

It's more like he is looking to lose votes, but let's be honest, what are the real chances of him pealing off 10 (R) votes anyway?

There are two factions in the modern GOP, no and no way.

 

[Callen]

I sure don't get it either. Although Biden is known for his gaffes, this was no gaffe. It was quite deliberate. I have no idea what the strategy is but hope it becomes clearer. Right now it just looks like a bonehead move to me but when it comes to understanding how Washington politics work, Biden is no bonehead

 

[nvflash]

Biden: Infrastructure vow was not intended to be veto threat

Aiming to preserve a fragile bipartisan deal on infrastructure, President Joe Biden endorsed it “without hesitation” Saturday, walking back from a threat to veto it if Congress also didn't pass an even larger package to expand the social safety net. Biden said he didn’t mean to suggest in...

news.yahoo.com

Doesn't look like Biden has much of a plan here.

 

[code1211]

After weeks of arduous negotiation, Joe got R's to agree to a ~$1T bipartisan infrastructure bill. No sooner does he accomplish this, he then tells everyone that he won't sign it unless there's a companion $3T spending bill attached to it. Maybe not the brightest tactical move in the history of political negotiations. Cue R's turning tail and heading for ze hills.
C'mon Joe, I love you but use your head!
Ughhhhh.

Republican resistance grows over Biden's infrastructure and policing plans

GOP opposition is hardening over a massive infrastructure plan and a revamp of policing laws, scrambling the prospects of two of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities at a crucial juncture on Capitol Hill.

www.cnn.com

Democrats performing political double-crosses.

Who could have predicted such a thing?

Who could possibly remember all of the hundreds of times it has happened before?

 

[Da Mole]

I agree that was a mistake when I read it too.

It's more like he is looking to lose votes, but let's be honest, what are the real chances of him pealing off 10 (R) votes anyway?

There are two factions in the modern GOP, no and no way.

What's wrong with no and no way when dealing with downright stupid?

 

[phoenix2020]

I sure don't get it either. Although Biden is known for his gaffes, this was no gaffe. It was quite deliberate. I have no idea what the strategy is but hope it becomes clearer. Right now it just looks like a bonehead move to me but when it comes to understanding how Washington politics work, Biden is no bonehead

Agreed; it’s confusing and unfortunate. This should have been an easy win. Once again, Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory

 

[nvflash]

What's wrong with no and no way when dealing with downright stupid?

The government still needs to function, even when (R) is out of power. Infrastructure spending is pretty bipartisan among the people, Trump ran on it, in part, in 2016 and won, Biden ran on it, in part in 2020 and won.

Most people agree it needs to be done, (R) is undermining the nation by being the party of no on this issue.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Democrats performing political double-crosses.

Who could have predicted such a thing?

Who could possibly remember all of the hundreds of times it has happened before?

That's funny. Moscow Mitch has doing the double cross thing since 2010.

 

[Da Mole]

The government still needs to function, even when (R) is out of power. Infrastructure spending is pretty bipartisan among the people, Trump ran on it, in part, in 2016 and won, Biden ran on it, in part in 2020 and won.

Most people agree it needs to be done, (R) is undermining the nation by being the party of no on this issue.

Who here is arguing that infrastructure isn't important and needed? The 1 Trillion to be spent is reasonable but Biden's latest demand that it won't be signed UNLESS he gets another 3T in out of control socialist spending is rightfully unacceptable by the right. Biden once again has shown that he is not man enough to stand up to the far left. Biden is a weak-kneed baffoon.

 

[RealityNow]

People may not have listened.
He said... the Bill the Bi-partisan group signed on for was what they wanted to sing on for, and what they wanted their names on. They did not want their names on the other bill.
So, one passes with Bi-Partisan Support and the other with Budget Reconciliation. They are to be "signed together"... and no Republicans have to take any claim to the part advanced with the Budget Reconciliation. Point is simple, the Budget Reconciliation was going to get done anyway, and the Infrastructure Bill has its own language.

It should not be such a big deal.

However, it was not core necessary to discuss the Budget Reconciliation portion at that particular time. Although, in honesty, its not like any of the Bi-partisan group did not know the parts they did not sign on to, would be done with the Budget Reconciliation. It's better to put the truth on the table up front, because it was going to be spin, even it one came behind the other.... This way, they can't come back and say Biden duped them, nothing about these two bills were unknown by any Republican or Democrat.

 

[Da Mole]

People may not have listened.
He said... the Bill the Bi-partisan group signed on for was what they wanted to sing on for, and what they wanted their names on. They did not want their names on the other bill.
So, one passes with Bi-Partisan Support and the other with Budget Reconciliation. They are to be "signed together"... and no Republicans have to take any claim to the part advanced with the Budget Reconciliation. Point is simple, the Budget Reconciliation was going to get done anyway, and the Infrastructure Bill has its own language.

It should not be such a big deal.

However, it was not core necessary to discuss the Budget Reconciliation portion at that particular time. Although, in honesty, its not like any of the Bi-partisan group did not know the parts they did not sign on to, would be done with the Budget Reconciliation. It's better to put the truth on the table up front, because it was going to be spin, even it one came behind the other.... This way, they can't come back and say Biden duped them, nothing about these two bills were unknown by any Republican or Democrat.

We can listen to them all we want, doesn't change the fact that all politicians look you in the eye and outright lie. His gamesmanship yesterday was just another political lie.

 

[RealityNow]

We can listen to them all we want, doesn't change the fact that all politicians look you in the eye and outright lie. His gamesmanship yesterday was just another political lie.

You should have watched the Press Briefing.... which it's evident you did not.

 

[Buckeyes85]

We can listen to them all we want, doesn't change the fact that all politicians look you in the eye and outright lie. His gamesmanship yesterday was just another political lie.

Being a dyed in the wool Trump supporter, I am skeptical that you are a great judge of when a politician is lying to you.

 

[Da Mole]

Being a dyed in the wool Trump supporter, I am skeptical that you are a great judge of when a politician is lying to you.

You don't have to be a judge. If a politician's lips are moving he is misleading or lying.

 

[Da Mole]

You should have watched the Press Briefing.... which it's evident you did not.

Did I miss Biden saying that they had a bipartisan agreement on the infrastructure bill? Did he not do an about-face about an hour later, putting conditions on the already agreed to bill which he knows the right is against?

 

[j brown's body]

After weeks of arduous negotiation, Joe got R's to agree to a ~$1T bipartisan infrastructure bill. No sooner does he accomplish this, he then tells everyone that he won't sign it unless there's a companion $3T spending bill attached to it. Maybe not the brightest tactical move in the history of political negotiations. Cue R's turning tail and heading for ze hills.
C'mon Joe, I love you but use your head!
Ughhhhh.

Republican resistance grows over Biden's infrastructure and policing plans

GOP opposition is hardening over a massive infrastructure plan and a revamp of policing laws, scrambling the prospects of two of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities at a crucial juncture on Capitol Hill.

www.cnn.com

Biden maintained this, and Republicans acknowledged it, all along

It is disingenuous to claim they are surprised by it, and there is no logical reason for Republicans to oppose the bi-partisan bill because of it.

If the Republicans back out of it now, and the Democrats pass it on their own, they are really going to look bad.

 

[Mr Person]

He has been talking about this.

Sounds more like the GOPers who were always going to oppose it are making their usual dishonest noises, and the GOPers who actually considered it are trying to create a paper trial justifying an eventual back-stabbing.

(Same general game with the ACA, you will remember. They got hundred+ amendments, then voted against it anyway).

 

[Craig234]

Joe did nothing wrong, and you don't say what he should have done instead. This was the best available plan.

He could have better attacked the Republicans who made these limited options, but he's trying to avoid that much it seems.

 

[Shrink726]

Joe did nothing wrong, and you don't say what he should have done instead. This was the best available plan.

He should have kept his mouth shut and welcomed the bipartisan deal and then later moved on his own vision of infrastructure repair.

Sometimes less is more.

 

[Craig234]

He should have kept his mouth shut and welcomed the bipartisan deal and then later moved on his own vision of infrastructure repair.

So he would be accused of bad faith dealing, hiding his real plan, being dishonest, breaking his word - instead of telling the truth all along. What good would that have done again? What was the specific harm here?

 

[Shrink726]

So he would be accused of bad faith dealing, hiding his real plan, being dishonest, breaking his word - instead of telling the truth all along. What good would that have done again? What was the specific harm here?

Now we're going to get nothing.

 

[Craig234]

Now we're going to get nothing.

Wrong. We're going to get the whole bill. If enough Republicans vote for the smaller bill, fine. If they don't it all goes in the reconciliation bill. He did it the right way, you want him to 'surprise' the country with the second bill? Or do you oppose the second bill?

 

[Razoo]

America has been getting screwed going on 40 years it is time to stop the BS.

Face it we the USA people need to spend these large amounts of tax dollars on substantial projects that
need employees. The employees need decent wages for their efforts. Let's quit treating employees as if they are not part of the success.

Government needs to spend tax dollars on projects that generate employment, tax revenue and such.

One level of the population that has been effectively dumbed down by their own government are those
who worship conservatives as if they are smart.