Biden lessens inflation

[Far right dem]

Ooof. No.

Economists are building their lives around studying the financial crisis. The reality is that both parties share the responsibility over 30+ years of bad decisions and policy. It starts with the CRA and just goes through Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and then Bush II. It just blew up on Bush II and at that point there was almost nothing he could have done to unwind it. I am not blaming any one POTUS, frankly it has a lot more to do with Congress than the POTUS anyway, but it was thoroughly bipartisan in the clusterf***.

That's a cute excuse to deflect responsibility for bushes failed policies. The economy tanked 7 years into bush's presidency. I think by then you have to stop blaming prior presidents.

 

[bave]

That's a cute excuse to deflect responsibility for bushes failed policies. The economy tanked 7 years into bush's presidency. I think by then you have to stop blaming prior presidents.

Look, if you want to be partisan by saying things "you might have an argument for 2020" that's fine. Let's just not pretend you know anything about economics or have a reasonable unbiased perspective about the situation. 2020 had nothing to do with politics at all, the global economy effectively got hit by a meteor. In fact, the US economy was largely the best performing major western economy in the world in 2020 and 2021 for that matter. 2008 on the other hand had decades of compounding issues that created the situation. Do you think W was just going to walk in and start talking about changing the CRA and Glass-Steagall? You think that was in the cards? You think the POTUS has the power to even do these things?

Again, this is mostly a congressionally driven problem, yet you want to keep pointing to a POTUS to score some sort of imaginary political point.

 

[Far right dem]

Look, if you want to be partisan by saying things "you might have an argument for 2020" that's fine. Let's just not pretend you know anything about economics or have a reasonable unbiased perspective about the situation. 2020 had nothing to do with politics at all, the global economy effectively got hit by a meteor. In fact, the US economy was largely the best performing major western economy in the world in 2020 and 2021 for that matter. 2008 on the other hand had decades of compounding issues that created the situation. Do you think W was just going to walk in and start talking about changing the CRA and Glass-Steagall? You think that was in the cards? You think the POTUS has the power to even do these things?

Again, this is mostly a congressionally driven problem, yet you want to keep pointing to a POTUS to score some sort of imaginary political point.

CRA wasn't responsible for the great bush recession and neither was glass steagall repeal. Try again.

 

[Puigb]

That's a cute excuse to deflect responsibility for bushes failed policies. The economy tanked 7 years into bush's presidency. I think by then you have to stop blaming prior presidents.

GOP always screws up the economy, and convinces millions of idiots it's the Democrats fault. Can't blame them for doing it, considering many people believe it.

 

[Far right dem]

GOP always screws up the economy, and convinces millions of idiots it's the Democrats fault. Can't blame the for doing it, considering many people believe it.

Blaming jimmy carter for something that happened 30 years after he left the presidency is the most pathetic thing they came up with. Bush crashes the housing market and somehow jimmy carter is to blame.

 

[Puigb]

Blaming jimmy carter for something that happened 30 years after he left the presidency is the most pathetic thing they came up with. Bush crashes the housing market and somehow jimmy carter is to blame.

Even Trump acknowledged back in 2004 that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. The usual suspects, including right wing media, pretend that video doesn't exist for obvious reasons. But yeah, reality is a bitter pill for them too swallow.

 

[bave]

Blaming jimmy carter for something that happened 30 years after he left the presidency is the most pathetic thing they came up with. Bush crashes the housing market and somehow jimmy carter is to blame.

Like I said, don't bother and read anything about economics, just pretend you know stuff on the internet. I am sure life is working out super for you with this theory.

Even Trump acknowledged back in 2004 that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. The usual suspects, including right wing media, pretend that video doesn't exist for obvious reasons. But yeah, reality is a bitter pill for them too swallow.

I love how everything Trump says is blaspemy except when he stumbles on something you like.

 

[Far right dem]

Like I said, don't bother and read anything about economics, just pretend you know stuff on the internet. I am sure life is working out super for you with this theory.

I think you proved you have no knowledge of economics when you tried to blame jimmy carter for the great bush recessions.

I love how everything Trump says is blaspemy except when he stumbles on something you like.

So is the infallible trump right or wrong on this?

 

[bave]

I think you proved you have no knowledge of economics when you tried to blame jimmy carter for the great bush recessions.

Man, better take a look at those sheepskins on the wall then I guess and see if I can get a refund. Would you care to compare CVs on the topic? A wager perhaps?

Furthermore, you should focus on paying attention to reading what I said. First, I said it was no single POTUS whose administration or terms were primarily responsible for the 08' recession but rather a series of actions over decades. Second, I specifically and repeatedly, stated this is more in the purview of Congress rather than the POTUS. However most simple people struggle with the concept of how governance actually works and prefer to simply blame the figurehead. Is that you?

So is the infallible trump right or wrong on this?

I am not sure why you think Trump is infallible. The guy was all over the place from day to day, I just find it odd that you are picking one day as wise and another as foolish.

 

[Far right dem]

Man, better take a look at those sheepskins on the wall then I guess and see if I can get a refund. Would you care to compare CVs on the topic? A wager perhaps?

Furthermore, you should focus on paying attention to reading what I said. First, I said it was no single POTUS whose administration or terms were primarily responsible for the 08' recession but rather a series of actions over decades. Second, I specifically and repeatedly, stated this is more in the purview of Congress rather than the POTUS. However most simple people struggle with the concept of how governance actually works and prefer to simply blame the figurehead. Is that you?

That's a cute justification for the bush recession. The buck stops with the president.

I am not sure why you think Trump is infallible. The guy was all over the place from day to day, I just find it odd that you are picking one day as wise and another as foolish.

I think trump is a clown but his observation of the economy being better with the democrats is 100% correct.

 

[trixare4kids]

That's a cute justification for the bush recession. The buck stops with the president.

Nearly 80% of Americans blame Biden for causing inflation.
I'm glad that you admit that the buck stops with this president.

 

[Far right dem]

Nearly 80% of Americans blame Biden for causing inflation.
I'm glad that you admit that the buck stops with this president.

Trump increased it. Biden is getting it under control.

 

[bave]

CRA wasn't responsible for the great bush recession and neither was glass steagall repeal. Try again.

For the third time, no single thing was responsible for the 08 crisis. Both of the above materially contributed to the problem though. Go read some white papers on the topic.

That's a cute justification for the bush recession. The buck stops with the president.

I think trump is a clown but his observation of the economy being better with the democrats is 100% correct.

The buck might stop with a POTUS, but that doesn't mean it they caused it. Again, this is something uneducated people think because they don't understand that many things happening in an enormous global economy are the result of a series of decisions over long periods of time.

Trump increased it. Biden is getting it under control.

Look, I get you are partisan, but wowzers.

CPI under trump in his last two years was 1.8% and 1.2%. Under Biden the *lowest* number anticipated is now 4.9%.

 

[code1211]

There is simply too much here to disagree with so I'll start with your first sentence. I don't believe you when you say half of government spending is lost to fraud and corruption. Please source that info.

The info is a deduction that was supported in the post you ignored.

Federal Spending since the year 2000 is up by 305%.

Median Household Income since the year 2000 is up by 6.6%.

Obviously, the Feds are burning money. They have increased their spending by 46 times more than the spending of "little people".

Are you seriously going to defend the spending of the Federal Government as being wise, frugal and well managed?

I'm always amused to a point when some club or agency or Congressman notes a boondoggle wasting a million or a billion here or there when the problem is in the Trillions that is being stolen every year.

Again, about $1.7 Trillion spent in 2000. About $6.6 Trillion spent in 2020.

Did the services delivered to YOU increase by about 6 times? If not, the rest was stolen.

Period.

 

[mrjurrs]

The info is a deduction that was supported in the post you ignored.

Federal Spending since the year 2000 is up by 305%.

Median Household Income since the year 2000 is up by 6.6%.

Obviously, the Feds are burning money. They have increased their spending by 46 times more than the spending of "little people".

Are you seriously going to defend the spending of the Federal Government as being wise, frugal and well managed?

I'm always amused to a point when some club or agency or Congressman notes a boondoggle wasting a million or a billion here or there when the problem is in the Trillions that is being stolen every year.

Again, about $1.7 Trillion spent in 2000. About $6.6 Trillion spent in 2020.

Did the services delivered to YOU increase by about 6 times? If not, the rest was stolen.

Period.

Nope. Provide source for 50% of government spending be lost in corruption or fraud.

Or admit it's a fever dream. Your personal explanation is nonsense.

 

[Far right dem]

Look, I get you are partisan, but wowzers.

Nope. I am uber conservative.

 

[code1211]

Nope. Provide source for 50% of government spending be lost in corruption or fraud.

Or admit it's a fever dream. Your personal explanation is nonsense.

If you have no suspicion of this, you are a fool.

If you can't connect the dots, you have no wisdom or intelligence.

To present a couple examples:

Social Security has a noble goal and is run by lying thieves who should have, decades ago, converted this to a 401K model. This would have removed the possibility to raid it and steal from it.

Another is the toll road that runs across the northern edge of Indiana and is used primarily by traffic running from Michigan to Illinois.

It was in horrible shape and required being extensively repaired and widened. Bids indicated that making the required repairs would consume ALL of the funds allocated for roads in Indiana for the upcoming years.

Mitch Daniels was Governor. He looked at the issue and decided to instead allow the private sector to bid on the right to repair the road and then run it as a toll road.

Daniels converted the huge cost into a revenue stream for the state. In the net result, instead of a huge cost, there was a huge income stream. The benefits to the people of the state was more money for roads everywhere in the state.

That's the difference(s) between what the lying thieves do and what a wise and frugal, well intentioned and intelligent execution of duties is.

 

[mrjurrs]

If you have no suspicion of this, you are a fool.

If you can't connect the dots, you have no wisdom or intelligence.

To present a couple examples:

Social Security has a noble goal and is run by lying thieves who should have, decades ago, converted this to a 401K model. This would have removed the possibility to raid it and steal from it.

Another is the toll road that runs across the northern edge of Indiana and is used primarily by traffic running from Michigan to Illinois.

It was in horrible shape and required being extensively repaired and widened. Bids indicated that making the required repairs would consume ALL of the funds allocated for roads in Indiana for the upcoming years.

Mitch Daniels was Governor. He looked at the issue and decided to instead allow the private sector to bid on the right to repair the road and then run it as a toll road.

Daniels converted the huge cost into a revenue stream for the state. In the net result, instead of a huge cost, there was a huge income stream. The benefits to the people of the state was more money for roads everywhere in the state.

That's the difference(s) between what the lying thieves do and what a wise and frugal, well intentioned and intelligent execution of duties is.

Suspicion doesn't mean fact. So you have zero evidence to support your bfc (big fat claim). I knew that.

 

[Puigb]

Like I said, don't bother and read anything about economics, just pretend you know stuff on the internet. I am sure life is working out super for you with this theory.



I love how everything Trump says is blaspemy except when he stumbles on something you like.

Trump wasn't a politician running for office then. He was telling the truth...based on obvious observations.

 

[code1211]

Suspicion doesn't mean fact. So you have zero evidence to support your bfc (big fat claim). I knew that.

Are you seriously asserting that nobody elected to office has ever stolen anything?

 

[mrjurrs]

Are you seriously asserting that nobody elected to office has ever stolen anything?

Are you seriously moving from 50% of govt spending is stolen or wasted to 'someone elected to office has stolen something?

 

[code1211]

Are you seriously moving from 50% of govt spending is stolen or wasted to 'someone elected to office has stolen something?
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Just trying to establish the level of your illusion.

 

[mrjurrs]

Just trying to establish the level of your illusion.

So all of your responses has just been bloviating. You never had a point, and you never stated anything factual. Here's an easy one for you...

Did President Biden win a fair election free from statistically significant voter fraud in 2020? Y/N

 

[code1211]

So all of your responses has just been bloviating. You never had a point, and you never stated anything factual. Here's an easy one for you...

Did President Biden win a fair election free from statistically significant voter fraud in 2020? Y/N

I don't know the answer to your question. Do you? If you say that you do, then you are either lying intentionally or too stupid to make a determination.

Out of curiosity, why have you changed the topic from what we discussing to election fraud?

 

[mrjurrs]

I don't know the answer to your question. Do you? If you say that you do, then you are either lying intentionally or too stupid to make a determination.

Out of curiosity, why have you changed the topic from what we discussing to election fraud?

I changed the topic to get a sense of your grasp on reality. Of course I know the election was fair and free from statistically significant voter fraud. If you can't tell, that tells me everything I need to know. Buh Bye