Biden is the new champion of the leftist hope and change of the new socialist democrat party

[MauiMan]

Oh good God, that's just nonsense , if that was the case every civilization from now to before Christ would be socialist then. Do you know what the National Socialist German Workers' Party ---Why do you think it's called social, that is a hoot>

see other post. Social Security is a socialist program.

 

[jbander]

The government, not individuals or businesses, runs the Social Security system. It tracks Social Security earnings and benefits, runs the website that lets people check their benefits record, approves or denies retirement benefit applications, collects Social Security taxes, and distributes retirement benefits. The government is in full control. People who renounce their U.S. citizenship can opt-out.

Sure sounds like a socialist program to me!! Please regale us with your description of how Social Security is “capitalism”.

What a hoot, then there is no such thing as capitalism cowboy because every country, no matter what they are have social programs ,your comment is just nonsense. You people. Experts on everything , but actually know nothing.

 

[MauiMan]

Oh good God, that's just nonsense , if that was the case every civilization from now to before Christ would be socialist then. Do you know what the National Socialist German Workers' Party ---Why do you think it's called social, that is a hoot>

Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism.

 

[dixon01767]

The government, not individuals or businesses, runs the Social Security system.

Government is not socialism. The government, not individuals or businesses, runs the US military. Our military is not therefore socialism. Silly.

Did you see, Ben Franklins name was put on the city of DC's committee report "Red List" charged with examining the namesakes of schools, buildings, and other facilities in the District. Im not sure of what their problem is with something being named after Ben Franklin, but I think your selection of his photo means you must be some kind of racist perpetuating the system that oppresses the black man.

 

[jbander]

see other post. Social Security is a socialist program.

If it is your post there is no reason in the world for me to deference back to someone who has no clue about the subject.

 

[MauiMan]

What a hoot, then there is no such thing as capitalism cowboy because every country, no matter what they are have social programs ,your comment is just nonsense. You people. Experts on everything , but actually know nothing.

Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism.

 

[jbander]

Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism.

Ok what form would it be then, this should be funny.

 

[jbander]

Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism.

100% crapola

 

[MauiMan]

Government is not socialism. The government, not individuals or businesses, runs the US military. Our military is not therefore socialism. Silly.

By definition, socialism refers to a form of economic production, whereby workers co-own and co-produce goods and services, sharing in the profits—as opposed to capitalism, wherein a business owner owns all of the tools and other means of production and keeps all of the profits while paying workers a wage.

 

[MauiMan]

100% crapola

Nope. It’s just above your head.

 

[jbander]

Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism.

The comedy is this guys idea that it becomes socialism if it is run by the government . So now we are back to everything is socialism because every country in the world is run by the government , you are sinking deeper and deeper with every comment.

 

[jbander]

Nope. It’s just above your head.

That from someone who has no clue about the subject that he is commenting on. Ya you bet big guy.

 

[MauiMan]

Ok what form would it be then, this should be funny.

The form it is in is fine.

 

[MauiMan]

The comedy is this guys idea that it becomes socialism if it is run by the government . So now we are back to everything is socialism because every country in the world is run by the government , you are sinking deeper and deeper with every comment.

The only comedy is you can’t comprehend that the Social Security system is a social program—completely owned and operated by the U.S. Government. You are conflating general government with socialism.

 

[MauiMan]

That from someone who has no clue about the subject that he is commenting on. Ya you bet big guy.

Start here, and work your way into books with bigger words:

Socialism - Wikipedia

 

[MTAtech]

Dumb democrats think the Constitution does not allow the references to God our founding fathers incorporated into our nation's founding, but those democrats are just ignorant. They were likely educated by Marxist professors with a very poor understanding of American history.

"Referencing" a deity in a speech isn't prohibited. The constitution prohibits establishment of religion while also guaranteeing the free exercise of religion. Those two principles are often in conflict. Here are SCOTUS cases that ruled on this.

US Supreme Court Filing Guides - FindLaw

 

[jbander]

Start here, and work your way into books with bigger words:

Socialism - Wikipedia

You just making your self look more and more foolish. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

 

[dixon01767]

Oh good God, that's just nonsense , if that was the case every civilization from now to before Christ would be socialist then. Do you know what the National Socialist German Workers' Party ---Why do you think it's called social, that is a hoot>

Self identifying as a "socialist" is a pretty good indication you are dealing with socialist. Using the label "social" does not.

 

[jbander]

The only comedy is you can’t comprehend that the Social Security system is a social program—completely owned and operated by the U.S. Government. You are conflating general government with socialism.

may I quote you "Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism. " your a comedy.

 

[MauiMan]

may I quote you "Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism. " your a comedy.

You have not—in any way—presented a logical counter-argument. Who’s the comedy?

 

[MTAtech]

Self identifying as a "socialist" is a pretty good indication you are dealing with socialist. Using the label "social" dies not.

My grandmother taught me to keep quite and have people think you are a fool, than to blurt out nonsense and confirm all doubts.

You are confirming all doubts that you have no idea the German National Socialist Party was a right wing party. It's an established piece of history that the Nazis weren't socialists but fascists.

I'll fill you in. In Germany during the 1920s and 1930s, Socialism was very popular. So when the Nazis formed, the incorporated "Socialist" into the name to attract those who are leaning towards socialism. In reality, socialism and fascism are opposites.

 

[MTAtech]

may I quote you "Nevertheless, because the American government plays such a dominant role in the U.S. Social Security system—deciding how much and when employees and employers pay into the system, how much individuals receive in benefits when they get them, and preventing almost everyone from opting out—it only seems fair to call the Social Security program a form of socialism. " your a comedy.

So? The Post Office is a business in which the government owns and runs the means of production. The Post Office was created in the U.S. Constitution. That makes the Post Office a socialist entity.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

My grandmother taught me to keep quite and have people think you are a fool, than to blurt out nonsense and confirm all doubts.

You are confirming all doubts that you have no idea the German National Socialist Party was a right wing party. It's an established piece of history that the Nazis weren't socialists but fascists.

I'll fill you in. In Germany during the 1920s and 1930s, Socialism was very popular. So when the Nazis formed, the incorporated "Socialist" into the name to attract those who are leaning towards socialism. In reality, socialism and fascism are opposites.

So we've learned, as well as Hitler, that 'Socialists' will believe anything. That trick has been working, and working well, for over 100 years.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

So? The Post Office is a business in which the government owns and runs the means of production. The Post Office was created in the U.S. Constitution. That makes the Post Office a socialist entity.

It also tells a lot about the inefficiency of Socialism.

 

[dixon01767]

By definition, socialism refers to a form of economic production, whereby workers co-own and co-produce goods and services, sharing in the profits—as opposed to capitalism, wherein a business owner owns all of the tools and other means of production and keeps all of the profits while paying workers a wage.

Soooooo what tools and means of production do you imagine in our social security system that makes it socialism. Taxing the capitalist economic system to fund "social" programs isn't socialism.