Biden has found his bone to pick with the GOP: voting rights

[Taylor]

Wow, not exactly off to a great start...

King family: ‘Difficult decision’ to attend Biden’s voting rights speech - POLITICO

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POLITICO Playbook: Biden gets a rude welcome to Georgia

And Mitch McConnell makes a filibuster threat.

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Biden dismisses split with Stacey Abrams as she skips voting rights event

Citing scheduling conflict, Georgia’s most-prominent voting rights advocate won’t attend president’s remarks on ‘turning point’ in American democracy

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[Peacenik]

Given how low turnout is for midterms, yes their always is the possibility of the issue catching on fire. Look what Stacy Abram's did in Georgia? The Presidency & both Senate seats! You never know, when an issue can take-off! and, this is just such an issue . . .

Totally agreed. I didn't think either of the GA Dem Senatorial candidates had a chance. One comment from PBS' Lisa DesJardins was that the constant charges of election fraud worked against GA Republicans, who got the idea their vote would not count, so no point in voting. And Trump was not on the ticket for the run-offs. Cases like the 2020 GA election give me hope that Manchin and Sinema can be coerced with enough constituent support driven by presidential messaging.

 

[Mycroft]

This kind of feigned concern comment detracts from an argument and makes a post appear shallow and petty.

Well, you are free to have your opinion on the matter, but I don't care about your opinion.

You are dismissed.

 

[Peacenik]

You know, for a guy with 'peace' in his avatar, you can come-out swinging!

I am not going to attack someone else, particularly if they go after me, (not getting into a tit-for-tat thing,) but a post is fair game.

 

[Chomsky]

Wow, not exactly off to a great start...

King family: ‘Difficult decision’ to attend Biden’s voting rights speech - POLITICO

www.politico.com

POLITICO Playbook: Biden gets a rude welcome to Georgia

And Mitch McConnell makes a filibuster threat.

www.politico.com

Biden dismisses split with Stacey Abrams as she skips voting rights event

Citing scheduling conflict, Georgia’s most-prominent voting rights advocate won’t attend president’s remarks on ‘turning point’ in American democracy

news.yahoo.com

Yeah, I saw that coming across cable.

But, maybe this will focus Biden better.

Remember, King essentially won the Presidency & both Senate seats for Biden. in essence, she was the key to handing the entire U.S. government over to Dems. She's a powerhouse, who has her hands directly on the pulse of the citizenry, She made Georgia happen. I think Biden would do well to heed her judgement!

 

[Chomsky]

I am not going to attack someone else, particularly if they go after me, (not getting into a tit-for-tat thing,) but a post is fair game.

I noticed that. Skillful move! Glad you're on our team. Though I must make you aware, my team allegiance is always subject to change!

 

[Rexedgar]

Given how low turnout is for midterms, 'yes' their always is the possibility of the issue catching on fire. Look what Stacy Abram's did in Georgia? The Presidency & both Senate seats! You never know, when an issue can take-off! And, this is just such an issue . . .

I think that the Georgia results were more a choice between Trump/Biden.

Maybe the Dems can energize the voters to take the midterms seriously and have a robust turnout??

 

[Port & Starboard]

Why is it harder to vote in Biden's blue home state than most red states?

 

[Chomsky]

Totally agreed. I didn't think either of the GA Dem Senatorial candidates had a chance. One comment from PBS' Lisa DesJardins was that the constant charges of election fraud worked against GA Republicans, who got the idea their vote would not count, so no point in voting. And Trump was not on the ticket for the run-offs. Cases like the 2020 GA election give me hope that Manchin and Sinema can be coerced with enough constituent support driven by presidential messaging.

Interesting, as I just posted, above, similar to your bolded:

Biden has found his bone to pick with the GOP: voting rights

You DEM's are making up fantasy just so you can make the US Voting system as unsecure as possible ! Either you people are criminal liars or just too cerebrally challenged to understand the fundamentals of trying to make an election secure and "HONEST"! Something you DEM's DO NOT WANT it appears...

debatepolitics.com

As to Trump, I believe his getting involved in the run-offs may have been a detriment to the GOP.

 

[Peacenik]

Wow, not exactly off to a great start...

King family: ‘Difficult decision’ to attend Biden’s voting rights speech - POLITICO

www.politico.com

POLITICO Playbook: Biden gets a rude welcome to Georgia

And Mitch McConnell makes a filibuster threat.

www.politico.com

Biden dismisses split with Stacey Abrams as she skips voting rights event

Citing scheduling conflict, Georgia’s most-prominent voting rights advocate won’t attend president’s remarks on ‘turning point’ in American democracy

news.yahoo.com

Sounds like an issue to me from your link:

Republican state lawmakers have passed at least 32 new laws in 17 states to change the rules of election administration and strip oversight from election officials.

GOP legislators filed at least 262 such bills in 41 states in 2021 alone, and more are expected as legislative sessions resume in 2022, according to States United Democracy Center.

A parallel effort saw the passage of at least 24 laws in 19 states restricting ballot access, after GOP legislators filed more than 440 bills in 49 states last year, according to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law.

More than a dozen bills restricting ballot access have been pre-filed ahead of 2022 legislative sessions in four states, and at least 88 bills in nine states will carry over from 2021 sessions.

In Georgia, that includes passage of Senate Bill 202, the subject of a lawsuit from the US Department of Justice for alleged violations of the Voting Rights Act.

 

[Taylor]

Yeah, I saw that coming across cable.

But, maybe this will focus Biden better.

Remember, King essentially won the Presidency & both Senate seats for Biden. in essence, she was the key to handing the entire U.S. government over to Dems. She's a powerhouse, who has her hands directly on the pulse of the citizenry, She made Georgia happen. I think Biden would do well to heed her judgement!

I'm beginning to wonder if he may have a primary challenge if he decides to run for re-election. Still unlikely, but now my ears are perked.

 

[Court Jester]

Biden administration has failed on all fronts with everything it has touched largely due to the fact that Republicans failed to hold control of the senate and FORCE the Biden administration to the table of compromise. And as a result Biden (who we all know isn't calling the shots anyway), has been for a year co-opted by the far left progressive wing of his party and they are demanding a long list of things which quite frankly do not have wide national appeal.

So now after being rebuffed on everything else---even with control of congress, the Biden administration is desperate to get one thing up on the scoreboard before this year's mid term elections. His presidency depends on it, and the entire democratic party depends on it.

 

[NatMorton]

When it comes to games politicians can play with voting, few have it over the Democrats here in MA. Let me give you a prime example.

For years in MA our law said that Senate vacancies were filled from an appointment by the state's Governor. Fine; not completely democratic, but that's the way it had been for many decades. And then Sen. John Kerry ran for President in 2004, but that created a problem: should Kerry win our state's governor was Republican Mitt Romney. "The people must decide such an important matter as choosing a replacement Senator!" said the local Democrats so they quickly changed the law to require a special election.

Fast forward to 2009, and Sen. Kennedy dies. That leaves the Democrats one vote short to pass Obamacare, and there wasn't time to spin up a special election to replace Kennedy before that session of Congress would end. "The people need representation in Washington at such a crucial time! We can't wait for an election!" our local Democrats said, and they quickly changed the law back to allowing Governors to appoint replacement Senators and, by the most convenient of coincidences, our Governor at the time was Democrat Patrick Deval.

Now that's playing games with elections.

 

[NatMorton]

History of the last few years-------you can Google it................it is not rocket science....

No, you made the assertion. You prove it.

 

[Peacenik]

I noticed that. Skillful move! Glad you're on our team. Though I must make you aware, my team allegiance is always subject to change!

Thank you.

As long as you are well informed and advocating for the good of America as you see it, then it is commendable no matter who you decide to support.

Conversely, those concerned only with self, at the detriment of others, do not produce good national policy.

 

[SoCal]

...After just starting a thread in this sub-forum discussing Dem Senate filibuster options, which are related to the Dem's Voting Rights Bill, I've come across the article in my O.P.

I was hesitant to use the new article for another thread starter, as there is a fair amount of cross-over material related to my previous thread. However after some thought, I've decided that due to this article focusing on the political strategy of promoting a 'voting rights standoff' with the Republican Senate, it deserved its own thread. In fact, in this thread I will go one further and posit Biden & the Dems may have found their defining issue and campaign message to drive into the mid-terms...

Another message isn't going to do it. Whether deserved or not (I believe it is) Biden will take the blame for the Democrats failure to pass meanful voting rights. Whether it's a smart more or not, if voting rights are not restored, millions of blacks will throwing their hands up in the air in disgust with the party they feel has taken them for granted and would rather stay home than vote...

"...The speeches are wearing thin with some activists, as evidenced by the boycott announced Monday by a coalition of voting rights groups. The Asian American Advocacy Fund, Black Voters Matter Action Fund, GALEO Impact Fund, Inc., New Georgia Project Action Fund and Black Voters Matter announced ahead of Biden's visit that they will not attend.

"We don't need another speech. What we need is a plan," Cliff Albright, co-founder of the Black Voters Matter Fund, told reporters on Monday. "We won't be attending the speech that the President is giving tomorrow."

Instead of attending the President's speech, Albright said, the groups will be continuing their work to advance voting rights in the state and plan to deliver a response to Biden's message on Tuesday..."

Biden's betrayal of Black voters

 

[Chomsky]

I think that the Georgia results were more a choice between Trump/Biden.

Maybe the Dems can energize the voters to take the midterms seriously and have a robust turnout??

That's the theory! if you read some of my other posts above.

Midterms are low turn-out elections, where Republicans are generally the more reliable. So, with low turn-out it wouldn't take a great deal of additional turnout to make the Dems competitive

I saw this often on the streets of the city, back when I was in the game. As turnout became lower through the years, those with vested interest (families, friends, businesses, associates) maintained a steady stronghold. As less citizens vote, those that do vote have a larger say. And in my city, everyone - employee - union - ward org - politicos - all had interest! And all voted like religion! Consequently in small local offices, those encompassing only a section of the city, they could be made or broken by a good ward organization. And, they were. And that's why all these offices were filled with city & county employees.

I'm recounting the above, to exemplify how vulnerable low-turnout elections are to influence. Obviously the numbers are far larger at the national level than at the city ward level, but the concept remains the same. And, I believe an on fire issue could possible do some damage. Maybe not enough to save the House, but it's always possible.

 

[Chomsky]

Thank you.

As long as you are well informed and advocating for the good of America as you see it, then it is commendable no matter who you decide to support.

Conversely, those concerned only with self, at the detriment of others, do not produce good national policy.

Well said.

I was first a cradle Dem, born into the Machine, moved and became a happy Indie, then recently became a Dem again in response to Trump & the Trumpian GOP.

I believe the Dems, at least currently, are fighting on the side of Democracy. I also liked the grass-roots spawning of new non-politicos running for the House in 2018! I even like the way the Dem factions always fight & disagree; it smells like democracy!

I am on the other side of the some of the Dem policies though, and I would like them to open the tent wider and find away to accommodate principled moderate Conservatives into the mix. But, for the most, I'm glad I'm back with them . . . for now.

 

[Chomsky]

Another message isn't going to do it. Whether deserved or not (I believe it is) Biden will take the blame for the Democrats failure to pass meanful voting rights. Whether it's a smart more or not, if voting rights are not restored, millions of blacks will throwing their hands up in the air in disgust with the party they feel has taken them for granted and would rather stay home than vote...

"...The speeches are wearing thin with some activists, as evidenced by the boycott announced Monday by a coalition of voting rights groups. The Asian American Advocacy Fund, Black Voters Matter Action Fund, GALEO Impact Fund, Inc., New Georgia Project Action Fund and Black Voters Matter announced ahead of Biden's visit that they will not attend.

"We don't need another speech. What we need is a plan," Cliff Albright, co-founder of the Black Voters Matter Fund, told reporters on Monday. "We won't be attending the speech that the President is giving tomorrow."

Instead of attending the President's speech, Albright said, the groups will be continuing their work to advance voting rights in the state and plan to deliver a response to Biden's message on Tuesday..."

Biden's betrayalof Black voters

That's an interesting hypothesis, thanks for bringing it up.

Also, Stacy Abrams (and a few others) are boycotting Biden tonight - too.

But yeah, I do think it's time for Biden to get down & fight for the Dem agenda. He can keep these groups in his support if he is willing to fight. He may not prevail as well we'd like, but in general terms most will back a guy that fights hard.

 

[Chomsky]

When it comes to games politicians can play with voting, few have it over the Democrats here in MA. Let me give you a prime example.

For years in MA our law said that Senate vacancies were filled from an appointment by the state's Governor. Fine; not completely democratic, but that's the way it had been for many decades. And then Sen. John Kerry ran for President in 2004, but that created a problem: should Kerry win our state's governor was Republican Mitt Romney. "The people must decide such an important matter as choosing a replacement Senator!" said the local Democrats so they quickly changed the law to require a special election.

Fast forward to 2009, and Sen. Kennedy dies. That leaves the Democrats one vote short to pass Obamacare, and there wasn't time to spin up a special election to replace Kennedy before that session of Congress would end. "The people need representation in Washington at such a crucial time! We can't wait for an election!" our local Democrats said, and they quickly changed the law back to allowing Governors to appoint replacement Senators and, by the most convenient of coincidences, our Governor at the time was Democrat Patrick Deval.

Now that's playing games with elections.

Your point is valid here, NatMorton. Just as I believe mine is with Georgia.

I would like to put an end to all this crap; gerrymandering too!

 

[anatta]

But in Midterms, with low turnout, that might be enough to ameliorate a large loss.

Dems only hope- or it's a shellacking

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Voter ID won't work.

Trump or someone like him will simply claim voter IDs were faked. Probably say China flew them in.

When the party is claiming Italian servers changed the vote then you have to be naive to think voter ID is the final solution.

So ID's don't stop all the 18yrs across American from getting beer at the stores either, in you fantasy world, I guess....

"IF" what you said is true then there would be Poll workers writing Affidavits left and right stating they saw this Crime!
Just like all those American Poll workers did in the 2020 election ....

Did anyone investigate the Italian servers ? Or did the Media just tell the SHEEP that it's crazy talk ?
The Naive ones are the ones willing to accept the word of LYING POLITICIANS and the LYING MEDIA , instead of
getting the case in court have Discovery, getting all the DATA on the table and getting to the TRUTH !!!

Italian Lawyer Presents Evidence Against Arrested Leonardo Security Chief's Involvement In Us Election Hacking

Lawyer Alfio D’Urso presents evidence against Italian defense firm Leonardo's Security Head Arturo D’Elia's involvement in US Election hacking.

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Fact check: Evidence disproves claims of Italian conspiracy to meddle in U.S. election (known as #ItalyGate)

On Jan. 6, 2021, the day supporters of President Donald Trump gathered in Washington, D.C. to protest the certification of the 2020 presidential election results by Congress and ultimately storm the U.S. Capitol, posts began to circulate widely social media claiming that an employee of an...

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Just like the video of the people rescanning Ballots !!! There is no way an election Polling Place should EVER rescan
batches of ballots 2-3 times in a ROW that fast , and it be Fraud/a CRIMINAL Act !!!...
Yet here we are 1+years later and no resolution ??...
People who by the lies of the Media have no ground to say others are Naive!

 

[anatta]

Democrats outnumber Republicans. What gets people to the polls is what matters, and "voting rights under assault" might be a good motivator.

good luck with that. So many dems are retiring, historical loses for POTUS in power party, it's all Dems have left
Certainly Biden's performance isn't going to motivate therm

 

[gbg3]

Is anyone listening to Biden speak right now?
Whoa, it's WEIRD!!!!
First, unless I misheard, he called Harris "President Harris" yet again. Then he was talking how great mail in voting is. He talked about long lines to vote in person (hours long), how people get hungry and thirsty, and again unless I misheard, he talked about the Bible saying how we should feed our hungry. So, all in the same section of the speech - long lines (hours), hungry and thirsty people in those long lines, and what the Bible says about hungry people.
He's screaming (and coughing as a result).
He's freaking out. This is bizarre!

 

[d0gbreath]

good luck with that. So many dems are retiring, historical loses for POTUS in power party, it's all Dems have left
Certainly Biden's performance isn't going to motivate therm

Breaking the Guinness record for the most democratic party voters in a mid-term election motivates me.