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Biden Droned the Wrong Guy, Innocent Aid Worker Killed in Kabul Strike: NYT

MrWonka said:
The war in Afghanistan has been going on for 18 years. In that time, every single solitary President who has overseen it has ordered drone strikes that resulted in the death of Civilians. Bush, Obama, and Trump all ordered strikes that killed civilians and hit the wrong target.
If we listened to Republicans and Trump who has now flip-flopped on leaving Afghanistan they would argue we should continue the war for another decade. The result would obviously be countless civilian deaths.

In short, you have no right to criticize Biden or his administration for anything at this point.
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That's a giant pile of horseshit. Biden doesn't get exempt from criticism because of what other people have done. How ****ing dumb is that mindset?
 
GummyVitamins said:
Can you provide a citation for Trump’s plan to turn over the country to the Taliban and leave Americans and our allies behind?
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There is no doubt the execution of the final withdrawal under Biden was a **** up. However, a full withdrawal was the policy of both Trump and Biden and in both cases would have resulted in the Taliban taking back the country. So if you support a full withdrawal, then you can't bitch about the Taliban having the country again. If you don't support a full withdrawal, then you have to admit that both Biden and Trump are wrong about Afghanistan.

What you can't do is have it both ways.
 
What a sorry miserable blood soaked attempt by these losers to divert attention from their miserable worldwide recognized failure , debacle at Kabul .
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Final U.S. Drone Strike In Kabul May Have Been Deadly Mistake: Report​

 
GummyVitamins said:
The only thing that is germane to this conversation is that he specifically ordered/authorized this one. His administration took a victory lap after the strike so now it's on him directly.
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Link?


White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on August 30 that Biden did not personally authorize the strikes, but had delegated responsibility for them. And she said on August 31, quoting CENTCOM, “the vehicle which was the target also contained explosives”, and that terrorists were killed, although there were reports of civilian casualties being subjected to investigation.
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Felis Leo said:
Was it unjustified? It looks like the Pentagon made another grotesque blunder that compounded an already terrible tragedy.
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This is what needs to be confirmed. If they did act in haste and reported it incorrectly, then the clearly those responsible should be critiqued for killing civilians and then reporting they killed the intended target. One of the points which made me question the initial report was the absence of the target's name; typically in these high profile drone attacks, there would be a mention of who the individual was.

From a broader perspective, one can certainly critique the amount of civilian casualties caused by a drone program used across several administrations. While it's pitched as a more precise way of attacking enemies of the US without sending troops in, the precision certainly comes into question.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
So if you support a full withdrawal, then you can't bitch about the Taliban having the country again.
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I'm not bitching about the Taliban taking over after we left. I'm bitching about leaving our people behind and sending home our military before we evacuated everyone. It's a key distinction.
 
Airyaman said:
Link?

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apnews.com

US airstrike targets Islamic State member in Afghanistan

The United States military struck back at the Islamic State in Afghanistan on Saturday, acting on President Joe Biden's vow to hit the extremists in retaliation for a suicide bombing claimed by IS that killed as many as 169 Afghans and 13 American service members at Kabul airport Thursday.
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Biden authorized the drone strike and it was ordered by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
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What a sorry miserable blood soaked attempt by these losers to divert attention from their miserable worldwide recognized failure , debacle at Kabul .
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Final U.S. Drone Strike In Kabul May Have Been Deadly Mistake: Report​

 
GummyVitamins said:
apnews.com

US airstrike targets Islamic State member in Afghanistan

The United States military struck back at the Islamic State in Afghanistan on Saturday, acting on President Joe Biden's vow to hit the extremists in retaliation for a suicide bombing claimed by IS that killed as many as 169 Afghans and 13 American service members at Kabul airport Thursday.
apnews.com apnews.com
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GummyVitamins said:
apnews.com

US airstrike targets Islamic State member in Afghanistan

The United States military struck back at the Islamic State in Afghanistan on Saturday, acting on President Joe Biden's vow to hit the extremists in retaliation for a suicide bombing claimed by IS that killed as many as 169 Afghans and 13 American service members at Kabul airport Thursday.
apnews.com apnews.com
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So Jen Psaki lied two days later?
 
GummyVitamins said:
Oh no, am I the one who has to break the news to you about Jen Psaki?
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So that's a yes. Do you have evidence that she lied, and that the AP story was not in error?
 
notquiteright said:
Now we wait for a MAGA post that makes a tiny little bit of sense... ✌️
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You're not serious in thinking that the MSM doesn't run interference for the Biden dictatorship, are you?
 
Paradoxical said:
He won the election through voter fraud. Arizona audit delayed due to Covid. patience, grasshopper.
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Sucks to have no faith in our process.
Best bet would be to never vote again since you think it’s rife with voter fraud.
 
No more faith
NuffSaid said:
Sucks to have no faith in our process.
Best bet would be to never vote again since you think it’s rife with voter fraud.
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in the FBOI, DOJ, or CIA as they are all proven assassins and not working for the people but working against conservatism.

Oh, WAIT! That's what you folks like.
 
Paradoxical said:
No more faith

in the FBOI, DOJ, or CIA as they are all proven assassins and not working for the people but working against conservatism.

Oh, WAIT! That's what you folks like.
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Conservatism?
The same that is okay with increasing debt as long as an R is in charge?
The same that wants limited government except when it comes to issues that for convenience needs the government to intervene?
The same that cries about socialist programs but gladly accepts that Medicare and Social Security check each month?
 
NuffSaid said:
No it wouldn’t.

many civilians died under Trump and not one attempt over impeachment.
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If you don't readily see that the current press is just Pravda, I don't know what to say. I could spend all day giving examples. They exist today solely to indoctrinate humans and still fear. That's all. A CNN Director said it all to a Project Veritas investigator....FEAR SELLS! We used it to get Trump out of office.
 
NuffSaid said:
Conservatism?
The same that is okay with increasing debt as long as an R is in charge?
The same that wants limited government except when it comes to issues that for convenience needs the government to intervene?
The same that cries about socialist programs but gladly accepts that Medicare and Social Security check each month?
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How is something I paid into socialism?
 
Airyaman said:
So that's a yes. Do you have evidence that she lied, and that the AP story was not in error?
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I love how the libs try to derail any negative conversation about yet another Biden screw up of major proportions. So, you are trying to whittle the conversation down to you needing a "link" that Peppermint Patty lied, or else Biden is responsible for nothing. That's pathetic.
Biden either authorized that one in particular, or delegated it. Either way, he is responsible.

With every other President, I would say he had to give a personal okay, with an event of this magnitude. But in Biden's case, he's not all there, so anything goes. He probably walked off in the middle of the conversation.
 
Paradoxical said:
for a minute? With Trump it would be 24/7 with impeachent demands
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I've not had the tv on to know how long it was discussed. I read the article. I actually read several at the time. So the whole stupid claim no leftist msn would cover the story is bs.

Added, civilians were killed throughout the Trump presidency (as well as Obama's) and regardless of your claim, there were no impeachment demands.
 
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