Biden diagnosed with ‘aggressive form’ of prostate cancer

[Hatuey]

I would spit on people who called me senile, dementia riddled, a criminal, etc and then suddenly started well wishing if they heard I was terminally ill.

It is the only right thing to do. Those people are the sort of trash who would live a whole live shitting on others and then ask their Jesus for forgiveness and think it is all cool cause of grace.

Nasty work but what else can be expected from them? Nothing but weak words. They get no kumabaya.

 

[yankintx]

The question was how this could be missed in two physicals, plus the other medical attention he receives as an aging president. It supposedly was just discovered after he complained about increasing urinary issues. He had an annual physical at the beginning of 2024, and presumably another at the beginning of 2025. PSA and other cancer screening should be a part of his annual physical, especially with a family history of cancer and if he was having problems with urination. Given that prostate cancer - even aggressive - can take years to metastasize, it seems unlikely that it JUST developed.

True

One would think it would show up in lab results blood test. It's a terrible prognosis, and it does not look good.

 

[yankintx]

I would spit on people who called me senile, dementia riddled, a criminal, etc and then suddenly started well wishing if they heard I was terminally ill.

It is the only right thing to do. Those people are the sort of trash who would live a whole live shitting on others and then ask their Jesus for forgiveness and think it is all cool cause of grace.

Nasty work but what else can be expected from them? Nothing but weak words. They get no kumabaya.

You are the exception rather than rule.

Take a page from President Trumps book, his concern and well wishes I believe are genuine.

And no, I voted against President Trump in 3 elections. He has chosen to take the high road in regards to President Bidens diagnosis.

Bitterness will not get one far in life.

 

[Hatuey]

You are the exception rather than rule.

You have no real evidence for this, at all.

 

[yankintx]

You have no real evidence for this, at all.

Follow Trump and other Republican leaders example.

If you need proof, go to your safe space Fox News.

 

[Hatuey]

Follow Trump and other Republican leaders example.

If you need proof, go to your safe space Fox News.

Now you are embarrassing yourself.

 

[dcsports]

Those tests aren't fool proof..in fact, they are known for not being correct..

Sure, no test is 'fool proof'. The PSA test specifically is more likely to error on the false positive side, requiring additional testing. It's unlikely that presidential level screenings (or even regular physicals) would lead to a missed prostate cancer diagnosis, especially in the advanced stages.

 

[nota bene]

You are the exception rather than rule.

Take a page from President Trumps book, his concern and well wishes I believe are genuine.

And no, I voted against President Trump in 3 elections. He has chosen to take the high road in regards to President Bidens diagnosis.

Bitterness will not get one far in life.

I think that everybody should take the high road here.

Cancer isn't one-size-fits-all, and neither are its treatments and expectations. When my little sister was diagnosed with Stage IV pancreatic, it had already metastasized. She infuriated her VA doctors (some of whom were also on staff at Sloan-Kettering) by refusing anything but palliative treatment. She was gone 4 months later, and we were glad and so grateful. I still am. But breast cancers aren't always a death sentence; our baby sister is a 15+ year survivor. Prostate cancer isn't necessarily one either, but metastasis is what it is.

Only insiders knew that the late Queen Elizabeth II had been suffering from bone cancer for a year or so. All that was said publicly was that Her Majesty was suffering from "mobility issues." Maybe the Biden situation is similar? I do find difficult to believe that a sitting President wouldn't have routine physicals, but it's his private medical information and his spouse's duty to be protective of that and of him. Why is this information being released?

 

[dcsports]

I would spit on people who called me senile, dementia riddled, a criminal, etc and then suddenly started well wishing if they heard I was terminally ill.
....

You can disagree with people on political issues without being disagreeable. And It's human to be concerned about the well being of others. This exchange says more about you than others.

Not interested in a back and forth. Take care.

 

[Hatuey]

You can disagree with people on political issues without being disagreeable.

Ah, I get it, calling people criminals and senile is "disagreeing with people on political issues".

That is crazy work but you do you.

 

[Hatuey]

I think that everybody should take the high road here.

Cancer isn't one-size-fits-all, and neither are its treatments and expectations. When my little sister was diagnosed with Stage IV pancreatic, it had already metastasized. She infuriated her VA doctors (some of whom were also on staff at Sloan-Kettering) by refusing anything but palliative treatment. She was gone 4 months later, and we were glad and so grateful. I still am. But breast cancers aren't always a death sentence; our baby sister is a 15+ year survivor. Prostate cancer isn't necessarily one either, but metastasis is what it is.

Only insiders knew that the late Queen Elizabeth II had been suffering from bone cancer for a year or so. All that was said publicly was that Her Majesty was suffering from "mobility issues." Maybe the Biden situation is similar? I do find difficult to believe that a sitting President wouldn't have routine physicals, but it's his private medical information and his spouse's duty to be protective of that and of him. Why is this information being released?

If JFK Jr gets cancer, I hope you remember blaming him for his wife's suicide when you are taking the high road and wishing him well.

 

[Emlee]

 

[devildavid]

Ah, I get it, calling people criminals and senile is "disagreeing with people on political issues".

That is crazy work but you do you.

This is exactly it. The shit Trump hurls at his percieved enemies goes well beyond mere political differences being expressed. Trump likes the word nasty, and he epitomizes it. Biden’s criticisms of Trump are so mild in comparison. There is political trash talking, and then there is Trump. Trump makes it personal and emphasizes the person, not the policies. I am even pissed at so called Biden supporters who seemed to jump on the bandwagon of claiming that Biden has dementia or is senile. Neither of these have been shown to be true to this day. We all could see that Biden was old, and it is possible he had memory problems. But compared to the crazy things that Trump says and does, Biden still looks good.

I feel bad for Biden and glad that I never jumped on the nasty attacks bandwagon against him, even from his own side. He did a good job and got major things accomplished through the Congress, unlike Trump and his constant barrage of signing all the crazed right wing EO’s shoved in front of his stupid face.

Hope that Joe gets better soon.

 

[yankintx]

Now you are embarrassing yourself.

I believe you are the one making a rather crass ceaseless fool of one's self.

Do better yes ?

Follow President Trumps example in this regard.

 

[Hatuey]

This is exactly it. The shit Trump hurls at his percieved enemies goes well beyond mere political differences being expressed. Trump likes the word nasty, and he epitomizes it. Biden’s criticisms of Trump are so mild in comparison. There is political trash talking, and then there is Trump. Trump makes it personal and emphasizes the person, not the policies. I am even pissed at so called Biden supporters who seemed to jump on the bandwagon of claiming that Biden has dementia or is senile. Neither of these have been shown to be true to this day. We all could see that Biden was old, and it is possible he had memory problems. But compared to the crazy things that Trump says and does, Biden still looks good.

I feel bad for Biden and glad that I never jumped on the nasty attacks bandwagon against him, even from his own side. He did a good job and got major things accomplished through the Congress, unlike Trump and his constant barrage of signing all the crazed right wing EO’s shove in front of his stupid face.

Hope that Joe gets better soon.

At Debate Politics, everyone gets a chance to lie about how they would act and when they take high road.

People like @nota bene and @dcsports will demonize for whatever they feel like outside of politics, then park their high road trucks in threads to kumabaya about how great that person was if they think they can get brownie points. Others will join the band-wagon just to make themselves feel good about feeling good like @yankintx .

It is all such a silly exercise by chronically online people whose moral compass is dependent on optics and not necessarily doing the right thing. I am sure Joe Biden couldn't give less of a **** if people who called him and his family criminals send him their best wishes in this difficult time for him and his family.

 

[Hatuey]

I believe you are the one making a rather crass ceaseless fool of one's self.

Do better yes ?

Oh no, I am being crass! I must watch FOX News!

 

[yankintx]

Oh no, I am being crass! I must watch FOX News!

And Fox is informing you to be an unsympathetic political hack in this case ?

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

The question was how this could be missed in two physicals,

I've repeated over and over again how it can happen. But where are you getting that it was missed by two physicals? Last year he did not have cancer. This year he does.

plus the other medical attention he receives as an aging president.

How do you know exactly what kind of medical attention he receives as president? He's allowed to say no, you know. He isn't forced to lie down and have a physical.

It supposedly was just discovered after he complained about increasing urinary issues.

Correct...

He had an annual physical at the beginning of 2024, and presumably another at the beginning of 2025.

Correct.

PSA and other cancer screening should be a part of his annual physical, especially with a family history of cancer and if he was having problems with urination.

It probably is. As has been gone over again and again.

Given that prostate cancer - even aggressive - can take years to metastasize,

Or not. It can take months to metastisize. Where are you getting all this "medical information"? LOL. This largely depends upon the type of prostate cancer.

How fast does aggressive prostate cancer grow?​

There’s no single timeline, but aggressive prostate cancer progresses in the body rapidly. This tendency is in stark contrast to traditional adenocarcinomas of the prostate gland, which tend to progress very slowly for years.

https://www.healthline.com/health/prostate-cancer/aggressive-prostate-cancer#growth-rate

it seems unlikely that it JUST developed.

No, it does not seem unlikely that an *aggressive cancer* -- which by definition is fast-moving and very quickly invasive -- "JUST" happened. It is possible it happened, say, a couple of months ago (the diagnosis) and he did not immediately pull up his shorts at the doctor's office and rush to inform the public of his private medical status, sure. Are you saying that a former president or someone at the end of his presidency is required to immediately make public his medical status? If so, where are Trump's public lab results? Let me know, I'd love to have a look. My guess is that fatboi has cholesterol out the yin-yang, is at higher risk for colorectal cancer tied to his decades of incontinence issues and has had a stent recommended more than once. He definitely does not lead a healthy life, and he's old.

 

[Hatuey]

And Fox is informing you to be an unsympathetic political hack in this case ?

Oh no! I must be watching FOX News and friiieeeends!

 

[ClaraD]

Sure, no test is 'fool proof'. The PSA test specifically is more likely to error on the false positive side, requiring additional testing. It's unlikely that presidential level screenings (or even regular physicals) would lead to a missed prostate cancer diagnosis, especially in the advanced stages.

No, its actually normal to miss it and he passed it. Hell you actually believed he skipped 2 physicals when he dud not skip his physicals

 

[yankintx]

Ah, I get it, calling people criminals and senile is "disagreeing with people on political issues".

That is crazy work but you do you.

Your fighting an uphill battle, even against your own political MAGAS.

Yes, you are an outsider in this case.

Have a fantastic evening.

 

[Hatuey]

Your fighting an uphill battle, even against your own political MAGAS. Yes, you are an outsider in this case.

I am MAGA now, yes, I am MAGA and I watch FOX News.

You sure are embarrassing yourself.

 

[yankintx]

I am MAGA now, yes, I am MAGA and I watch FOX News.

You sure are embarrassing yourself.

You are not embassing yourself?

Care to speak English?

 

[Hatuey]

You are not embassing yourself?
Care to speak English?

You said it, man. I am MAGA and I watch FOX News....all the time.

Yup, yes siree, that is me. I even bought a tiny Make America Great Again hat that I make the bald eagle visiting me every morning wear.

Yup, I are the MAGA man.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

True

One would think it would show up in lab results blood test. It's a terrible prognosis, and it does not look good.

From the American Cancer Association:

Possible inaccurate or unclear test results​

The PSA blood test can sometimes have abnormal results even when a man does not have cancer (known as a false-positive result), or normal results even when a man does have cancer (known as a false-negative result).

False-positive results can lead some men to get prostate biopsies (with small risks of pain, infection, and bleeding) when they don’t have cancer. These results can also lead to anxiety, even when a biopsy doesn’t find cancer.

On the other hand, false-negative results can give some men a false sense of security, even though they might actually have prostate cancer.

Researchers are studying ways to make the PSA test more accurate (see Screening Tests for Prostate Cancer), as well as trying to develop other, more accurate screening tests. But for now, the possibility of false-positive and false-negative results from a PSA test needs to be considered when deciding whether to be screened for prostate cancer.

Can Prostate Cancer Be Found Early? | How to Detect Prostate Cancer?

Prostate cancer in men can often be found early, when it is most likely to be cured. Learn more about screening options and early detection here.

www.cancer.org