Biden and Trump win Michigan primaries, edging closer to a rematch

[JacksinPA]

Trump and Biden won Michigan. But 'uncommitted' votes demanded attention

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have won the Michigan primaries, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men. Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary.

apnews.com

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump won the Michigan primaries on Tuesday, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men.

Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary. But Democrats were also closely watching the results of the “uncommitted” vote, as Michigan has become the epicenter for dissatisfied members of Biden’s coalition that propelled him to victory in the state — and nationally — in 2020. The number of “uncommitted” votes has already surpassed the 10,000-vote margin by which Trump won Michigan in 2016, surpassing a goal set by organizers of this year’s protest effort.

As for Trump, he has now swept the first five states on the Republican primary calendar. His victory in Michigan over his last major primary challenger, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, comes after the former president defeated her by 20 percentage points in her home state of South Carolina on Saturday. The Trump campaign is looking to lock up the 1,215 delegates needed to secure the Republican nomination sometime in mid-March.

Both campaigns are watching Tuesday’s results for more than just whether they won as expected. For Biden, a large number of voters choosing “uncommitted” could mean he’s in significant trouble with parts of the Democratic base in a state he can hardly afford to lose in November. Trump, meanwhile, has underperformed with suburban voters and people with a college degree, and faces a faction within his own party that believes he broke the law in one or more of the criminal cases against him.
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I put money on Trump losing, with resulting chaos & violence.

 

[Rexedgar]

Edging closer?

Isn’t a rematch a given, at this point?

 

[Airyaman]

"Edging"? Damn, it seems media wants to drag out the horrid inevitable. It's a done deal: Biden vs, Trump vs any other 3rd party candidates who make it on multiple state ballots.

 

[tshade]

Trump and Biden won Michigan. But 'uncommitted' votes demanded attention

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have won the Michigan primaries, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men. Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary.

apnews.com

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump won the Michigan primaries on Tuesday, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men.

Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary. But Democrats were also closely watching the results of the “uncommitted” vote, as Michigan has become the epicenter for dissatisfied members of Biden’s coalition that propelled him to victory in the state — and nationally — in 2020. The number of “uncommitted” votes has already surpassed the 10,000-vote margin by which Trump won Michigan in 2016, surpassing a goal set by organizers of this year’s protest effort.

As for Trump, he has now swept the first five states on the Republican primary calendar. His victory in Michigan over his last major primary challenger, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, comes after the former president defeated her by 20 percentage points in her home state of South Carolina on Saturday. The Trump campaign is looking to lock up the 1,215 delegates needed to secure the Republican nomination sometime in mid-March.

Both campaigns are watching Tuesday’s results for more than just whether they won as expected. For Biden, a large number of voters choosing “uncommitted” could mean he’s in significant trouble with parts of the Democratic base in a state he can hardly afford to lose in November. Trump, meanwhile, has underperformed with suburban voters and people with a college degree, and faces a faction within his own party that believes he broke the law in one or more of the criminal cases against him.
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I put money on Trump losing, with resulting chaos & violence.

Too bad.
Michigan had a chance to prove they had brains and were responsible.

 

[Winston]

I voted for Haley this morning. I would do it again.

 

[beefheart]

 

[tshade]

Edging closer?

Isn’t a rematch a given, at this point?

Trump might implode

 

[Mycroft]

Trump and Biden won Michigan. But 'uncommitted' votes demanded attention

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have won the Michigan primaries, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men. Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary.

apnews.com

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump won the Michigan primaries on Tuesday, further solidifying the all-but-certain rematch between the two men.

Biden defeated Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, his one significant opponent left in the Democratic primary. But Democrats were also closely watching the results of the “uncommitted” vote, as Michigan has become the epicenter for dissatisfied members of Biden’s coalition that propelled him to victory in the state — and nationally — in 2020. The number of “uncommitted” votes has already surpassed the 10,000-vote margin by which Trump won Michigan in 2016, surpassing a goal set by organizers of this year’s protest effort.

As for Trump, he has now swept the first five states on the Republican primary calendar. His victory in Michigan over his last major primary challenger, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, comes after the former president defeated her by 20 percentage points in her home state of South Carolina on Saturday. The Trump campaign is looking to lock up the 1,215 delegates needed to secure the Republican nomination sometime in mid-March.

Both campaigns are watching Tuesday’s results for more than just whether they won as expected. For Biden, a large number of voters choosing “uncommitted” could mean he’s in significant trouble with parts of the Democratic base in a state he can hardly afford to lose in November. Trump, meanwhile, has underperformed with suburban voters and people with a college degree, and faces a faction within his own party that believes he broke the law in one or more of the criminal cases against him.
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I put money on Trump losing, with resulting chaos & violence.

There won't be a rematch between Trump and Biden.

Biden will be replaced as the nominee at the Democratic convention.

 

[CaughtInThe]

There won't be a rematch between Trump and Biden.

Biden will be replaced as the nominee at the Democratic convention.

Bet?

 

[Ganondagan]

Edging closer?

Isn’t a rematch a given, at this point?

I don't think the Democrats will run Biden. I bet he's out byaugust. The problem for Dems is no one wants Harris to take over as President, so how do they dump Biden?

 

[LucyLou]

There won't be a rematch between Trump and Biden.

Biden will be replaced as the nominee at the Democratic convention.

They always tell you what they're terrified of and what they dream of happening to assuage their dumb Maga fears

 

[gbg3]

I don't think the Democrats will run Biden. I bet he's out byaugust. The problem for Dems is no one wants Harris to take over as President, so how do they dump Biden?

One pollster recently did some swing state polling on Trump against Newsom and Trump against Harris. Trump did much better against those two compared to how he did against Biden. In all cases (including against Biden), Trump had the edge but he had a much bigger edge against Harris and (especially) Newsom than against Biden.

Maybe Biden is the Dem's best option or at least a better option than Harris or Newsom. It would be interesting to see Obama and Whitmer polling, to see if that would paint a different picture.

 

[Winston]

One pollster recently did some swing state polling on Trump against Newsom and Trump against Harris. Trump did much better against those two compared to how he did against Biden. In all cases (including against Biden), Trump had the edge but he had a much bigger edge against Harris and (especially) Newsom than against Biden.

Maybe Biden is the Dem's best option or at least a better option than Harris or Newsom. It would be interesting to see Obama and Whitmer polling, to see if that would paint a different picture.

I don’t think the polling tells the whole picture. It’s too far out for people to pay attention or give a shit. Most people don’t follow politics. They don’t know who Newsom or Kamala Harris are.

I honestly don’t care who the Dems run anymore. I think if it were up to me Whitmer is our strongest candidate

 

[gbg3]

I think if it were up to me Whitmer is our strongest candidate

I think there are a number of Dems feeling that could be true. That's why swing state polling on a Trump/Whitmer contest might be interesting and useful. The Newsom polling was really bad, to a surprising degree IMO.

 

[Ganondagan]

One pollster recently did some swing state polling on Trump against Newsom and Trump against Harris. Trump did much better against those two compared to how he did against Biden. In all cases (including against Biden), Trump had the edge but he had a much bigger edge against Harris and (especially) Newsom than against Biden.

Maybe Biden is the Dem's best option or at least a better option than Harris or Newsom. It would be interesting to see Obama and Whitmer polling, to see if that would paint a different picture.

That's pathetic that Biden is the best the Dems have to offer. He's never been very bright and now he's senile as well.

 

[Puigb]

That's pathetic that Biden is the best the Dems have to offer. He's never been very bright and now he's senile as well.

Your party is running a mobbed up criminal loser for the third time, who already lost re-election, and has done nothing but cause the GOP to lose since his victory 8 years ago. And you're criticizing the Dems here? lmao.

 

[Doug64]

If by "barely higher" you mean a 30% increase (13% versus 10% for Obama), that's right. Still, that's ~100,000 "uncommitted" votes--and ~146,000 non-Biden votes overall--in a state he won by 154,000 votes in 2020. So the question is, does Biden need the pro-Hamas wing of the Democratic Party to win in 2024?

 

[Ganondagan]

If by "barely higher" you mean a 30% increase (13% versus 10% for Obama), that's right. Still, that's ~100,000 "uncommitted" votes--and ~146,000 non-Biden votes overall--in a state he won by 154,000 votes in 2020. So the question is, does Biden need the pro-Hamas wing of the Democratic Party to win in 2024?

He probably does. And who is he going to lose by supporting Hamas?

 

[Doug64]

He probably does. And who is he going to lose by supporting Hamas?

Moderates that support Israel. How many? Who knows?