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Betsy DeVos set to rewrite guidance on college sexual assault cases, giving new rights to accused

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...s-college-sexual-assaults-20181114-story.html
Good, this is way over due.
 

I guess I don't see this as an improvement, particularly at the K-12 level, where this seems to provide new ways for schools to ignore a problem.

Do we have a serious false accusation of harassment problem in schools?

Is it worse than the actual sexual harassment that goes on?

I imagine you're glad they didn't try to lock down gender by birth, but we see they leave the door open for further "clarification."
 
Fantastic news. We must protect the mainly white boys who sexually assault and rape women. Well done Betsy.

What a load of crap.

How about the accused even being able to defend themselves in the hearing?
Or is that too much to expect now, with 'presumed guilt' becoming the new leftist legal standard?

Yeah, yeah, just as long as the PC fascists get what they want. :roll:
I'm frankly fed up with it, and sick of it.

Bugger off and **** up someone else's country and legal system with your garbage ideology.
 

People accused of sexual misconduct can defend themselves during a hearing.

This seems really hard for you.
 

False accusations are made. Is it worse than “real” cases of assault? That’s impossible to know because the problem we have is a system wherein people can be found guilty of misconduct on the basis of anonymous reports and no evidence.
 
Fantastic news. We must protect the mainly white boys who sexually assault and rape women. Well done Betsy.

Melodrama much? You obviously didn't read the whole article:


Read the whole article next time.
 
People accused of sexual misconduct can defend themselves during a hearing.

This seems really hard for you.

Please, be more informed.




There was a problem, Obama's guidance - tied to federal school funding, if I recall correctly, over compensated, and perhaps this policy represents a return more to the center.

No one wants to see a sexual abuser go unpunished, but that said, neither does anyone want to see an innocent person wrongly punished, their lives destroyed.

Frankly, I think this whole 'rape culture' meme really doesn't exist, except in the fevered imaginations of leftists who want to use it for political leverage and power through fear mongering.
 
Fantastic news. We must protect the mainly white boys who sexually assault and rape women. Well done Betsy.

What are you talking about? This is about providing due process and protecting people's rights. I bet you still think the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty, don't you?
 
What are you talking about? This is about providing due process and protecting people's rights. I bet you still think the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty, don't you?
Or the University of Virginia Rolling Stone rape accuser was telling the truth
 
What are you talking about? This is about providing due process and protecting people's rights. I bet you still think the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty, don't you?

We live in a society where protecting people's rights is passe. The new objective is to destroy whomever is the enemy.
 
Why do you think this is overdue?

The Obama rules greatly distorted the process, and denied due process rights to the accused. https://www.theatlantic.com/educati...rtable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/

Read that, it's from the Atlantic.

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)small part of a VERY long Article(
 
We live in a society where protecting people's rights is passe. The new objective is to destroy whomever is the enemy.

By what ever means are required, and to these assholes willingness to use violence and/or lies registers in their pea brains as "Being Serious".

They lack the required morality.

They are children.

YUK
 
False accusations are made. Is it worse than “real” cases of assault? That’s impossible to know because the problem we have is a system wherein people can be found guilty of misconduct on the basis of anonymous reports and no evidence.

Ok, the only example I can think of offhand was the Duke lacrosse team thing, which was pretty shameful, but they weren't found guilty of anything.

No doubt there are others, but I don't see a false accusation crisis in schools. My own incomplete experience suggests schools tend to circle the wagons and stonewall on the accused's behalf, most particularly of abusive teachers.

Examples must be plentiful, if our best option is to make it easier for school admins to ignore the accusations.
 

I think the leftist paradigm shifted into something of a monster, the further through the years we've gone.

What was the terminology.
-It's better to let 10 guilty men go free, than to imprison 1 innocent man?-

I think they've tried to reverse that course for a while now.
 
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