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Best condemnation of GOP attacks on Transgender Americans I have yet seen.

btthegreat said:
Its video of Rep. Becca Balint in action https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...b92409a820848e2b31ed99e04ec0d8a&ei=24#details

Its Pride Month, and this is what we should be doing with it.
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Trans in womens sports is abuse of biological women. Government financing trans surgery is an abuse of taxpayer dollars. Expecting people to accept pushing transgender surgery for children is abuse of children.
If you want to pretend you are a women, or man when you are not, that's all on you. Asking the rest of us to play the game with you is ridiculous. You can do as you please with your body, but don't ask us to see it as normal or to pay for it.
Protect women's athletics!
 
Integrityrespec said:
Trans in womens sports is abuse of biological women. Government financing trans surgery is an abuse of taxpayer dollars. Expecting people to accept pushing transgender surgery for children is abuse of children.
If you want to pretend you are a women, or man when you are not, that's all on you. Asking the rest of us to play the game with you is ridiculous. You can do as you please with your body, but don't ask us to see it as normal or to pay for it.
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Abuse is keeping a brain dead woman alive until she gives birth against her family's wishes.
Abuse is making miscarriage a criminal act.
Abuse is making a 9yr old rape victim carry a child.
Abuse is a doctor/hospital turning away a woman in the midst of a miscarriage because they're afraid of being sued.

If you are concerned about abuse of biological women, then I assume you're focusing some of your energy toward ending the horrific abuse they endure because they have uteri. It should be painfully obvious to you that they cannot do as they please with their bodies due to repressive government policies taking away their agency.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Trans in womens sports is abuse of biological women. Government financing trans surgery is an abuse of taxpayer dollars. Expecting people to accept pushing transgender surgery for children is abuse of children.
If you want to pretend you are a women, or man when you are not, that's all on you. Asking the rest of us to play the game with you is ridiculous. You can do as you please with your body, but don't ask us to see it as normal or to pay for it.
Protect women's athletics!
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The best bang for the federal govt buck, is a policy that provides for people and their doctors to decide their own medical care. Funding abortion via Medicaid services is an incredible investment for govt bean-counters just like you. Its last medicaid dollar you will ever spend on that 'potential life', Now take all those dollars and fund Transcare. You will have plenty left over to transfer over for ICE raids
 
Argent said:
Abuse is keeping a brain dead woman alive until she gives birth against her family's wishes.
Abuse is making miscarriage a criminal act.
Abuse is making a 9yr old rape victim carry a child.
Abuse is a doctor/hospital turning away a woman in the midst of a miscarriage because they're afraid of being sued.
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This is whataboutism
Argent said:
If you are concerned about abuse of biological women, then I assume you're focusing some of your energy toward ending the horrific abuse they endure because they have uteri.
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What?
Argent said:
It should be painfully obvious to you that they cannot do as they please with their bodies due to repressive government policies taking away their agency.
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Unless they are forced to breed you don't really have a point.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Unless they are forced to breed you don't really have a point.
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They are referring to making decisions about reproduction including termination of the pregnancy.
 
Bravo to her! I could say the same exact thing about certain Righties in this forum who week after week after week keep focusing on transgender people when none of the rest of us do.
 
From the sound of it she's arguing to let doctors and parents agree to experiment on children what does gender reassignment hokem. There's absolutely no evidence that this is even beneficial to children dealing with gender dysphoria.
 
Argent said:
Abuse is keeping a brain dead woman alive until she gives birth against her family's wishes.
Abuse is making miscarriage a criminal act.
Abuse is making a 9yr old rape victim carry a child.
Abuse is a doctor/hospital turning away a woman in the midst of a miscarriage because they're afraid of being sued.

If you are concerned about abuse of biological women, then I assume you're focusing some of your energy toward ending the horrific abuse they endure because they have uteri. It should be painfully obvious to you that they cannot do as they please with their bodies due to repressive government policies taking away their agency.
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This is a whataboutism and an appeal to emotion fallacy.
CLAX1911 said:
This is whataboutism
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Exactly, Democrats can't argue without committing logical fallacies.
Lisa said:
They are referring to making decisions about reproduction including termination of the pregnancy.
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How is abortion "reproduction" if you are killing the baby?
j brown's body said:
She's right. When it comes to sexuality, Republicans are the regulatory party. They want laws that controls everyone's sexual behavior and identity.
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What's wrong with that?
 
j brown's body said:
She's right. When it comes to sexuality, Republicans are the regulatory party. They want laws that controls everyone's sexual behavior and identity.
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When you're talking about experimenting on children yeah that should be illegal. Sexual behavior with regards to children interacting with adults is unacceptable.

The fact that she doesn't understand this and pretends life chemically castrating a child and somehow healthcare is an insane that's understanding of what's really being argued here.

If you want to get boobs installed or removed or have your penis popped inside out for stitch a bit of arm on your crotch when you're at the adult that's your business. Doing this thing to children should be a criminal act.

Yes we should interfere absolutely with people doing this to their kids rather they think they're doing the right thing or not.
 
lolbert said:
This is a whataboutism and an appeal to emotion fallacy.
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The emotional fallacy was claiming that biological women athletes are being abused because they sometimes lose to trans women. Contrast losing a race to the things I listed which are occurring with greater frequency and actual harm or loss of life and try to tell me that losing a race is abuse.
 
Argent said:
The emotional fallacy was claiming that biological women athletes are being abused because they sometimes lose to trans women.
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Makes are excluded from female sports it doesn't matter how they identify.
Argent said:
Contrast losing a race to the things I listed which are occurring with greater frequency and actual harm or loss of life and try to tell me that losing a race is abuse.
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That's whataboutism. It's not an argument. Two different things at the same time can be abuse what baby a greater form of abuse but when it's not in the scope of discussion you're trying to present a red hairy to deflect from not having a good reason.
 
lolbert said:
How is abortion "reproduction" if you are killing the baby?
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Terminating the pregnancy is certainly a reproductive decision. A 20 week fetus isn't a baby, despite your emotional strawman.

If you are really a libertarian, instead of being a fascist, why do you think you get a voice in the medical decisions of anyone but yourself?
 
Lisa said:
Terminating the pregnancy is certainly a reproductive decision. A 20 week fetus isn't a baby, despite your emotional strawman.

If you are really a libertarian, instead of being a fascist, why do you think you get a voice in the medical decisions of anyone but yourself?
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When does it become a baby then?
 
Fletch said:
When does it become a baby then?
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When it is born and living independently of the mothers body is the legal and medical definition.
 
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