Impeachment? ****, is that all you think about? Is the entirety of your head-space filled with 'GottaGetRidofTrumpGottaGetRidofTrumpNothingElseMattersGottaGetRidofTrump'?
That democrat nominee better have something other than socialism, and "lovable" will never describe Bernie, except for those who want something paid for by someone who earned the money. Biden's "lovableness" will not serve him well in the hustings.
That democrat nominee better have something other than socialism, and "lovable" will never describe Bernie, except for those who want something paid for by someone who earned the money. Biden's "lovableness" will not serve him well in the hustings.
I don't agree. I see Bernie as the cold war USSR where the government runs everything. Whether you want to call him a socialist or communist (take your pick) he is every thing we spent the last 100 years fighting. I think the republicans would work with Biden unlike the democrats who will not work with anyone. If the democrats don't bring and end to this witch hunt and misuse of our justice system for political gain we may have civil war on our hands. I personally think it is time to take back our government. Our forefathers were clearly right about every now and then you have to upset the applecart to get rid of all the rotten apples.
Nope, and if you followed my posts you'd know that.
IMHO, the demorat base has moved so far left that whoever can win the DNC primary will have little chance of winning the general POTUS election.
C'mon, use your mind. Reagan won because he was loved through his pictures and his beliefs. Bill Clinton won because he was Charistmatic and caring of others and showed in everything he said. Obama won because he inspired people to be better than they were and was believable. Trump won mostly because he was known publicly through the Apprentice. People tend to buy what they like. Few go through the work of thinking about they are actually talented at doing.
We can certainly debate what each of these people bring to the table but one thing that is a given is that popularity is important, ability to inspire is important, lovability is important, respect is important and trust is important. Bernie brings trust and respect to the table as well as he is known by everyone. Biden brings lovability and consistency to the table, Trump brings hate and dissension to the table and those were not known quantities before. They are now and it will destroy him.
I DID. The first thing I said to you was "Socialism".The only acceptable socialist activities are those that society deems efficient to provide FOR society, things like fire departments, police departments, roads, etc. If society wants to band together to build a community hospital and allow medical staff to use it to provide for the common good, that's a form of socialism that meets the criteria. The government has a role in ensuring that health and welfare of all the people is protected, but why should they be controlling the operation of the activity in question?
Moved so far left? I don't think they have moved any more than they were before. Hillary barely beat Bernie and she beat him because she was a woman, was a known factor and represented the Clinton name and Bill, in spite of what he did, was loved. Nonetheless, Bernie got a lot of support and he is and was considered the far left and that has not changed.
Yeah I know. People are very simple that way. No room for any nuance or sophistication. They hear the word "socialism", and like an stupid angry bull at the rodeo charging at a red cape, they just go at it. :roll:
Tomorrow?...There are dozens of pudgy little fat men sitting in an office right now digging up anything they can to smear and degrade any Democratic front runner...I fully expect the Alt Right to go after Biden's deceased son...It is what they do
Socialism.
All those former presidents that you mentioned? **** 'em.
Who do you think the DNC Elites will decide to nominate...like they did in 2016? Bernie or Biden?
Hint: Think about who gets the most favorable news, opinion and talking potato head nonsense from the multimedia echo chamber. That'll give you a clue.
The US is at a historic point, where the concrete of plutocracy will either harden or get attacked. The two main previous inflection points in the country were FDR and Reagan.
Bernie is a third, to right the course of the nation for the public to regain control of our country from the plutocrats. He's a once in many elections chance for that.
Biden is not. Biden is a plutocrat-friendly, centrist Democrat of the sort that continues the Reagan inflection, that will simply oversee continuing the road to more inequality, not returning the government to the people.
While of course Biden would be better than any Republican, it would be terrible for the country instead of changing course with a progressive, preferably Bernie. Not to mention, Bernie will win if nominated much more likely than Biden, who will turn off much of the country similarly to Hillary.
If Bernie had won (been awarded?) the nom last time around, Trump would have lost.
Have you already forgotten than in 2016 polls, Bernie was beating Trump by 13% and Hillary was only beating Trump by 5%?
Since then, Bernie has done no wrong and Trump has turned the nation into a sty. As such, what makes you think that if Bernie is the candidate that Trump would win? What do you have to support your idea? your opinion?
Why on Earth would I follow your posts?
Are you kidding me? The move leftward away from much more heavily federally regulated and subsidized 'private' medical care insurance (PPACA) towards full blown M4A with its total elimination of 'private' medical care insurance (as well as eliminating all for-profit medical care providers) is extremely noticeable to most folks.
It may be true that Bernie has not moved left (since 2016) but certainly many more of the (20?) demorats now running for POTUS have moved left to join Bernie in calling for more "free" stuff completely provided by the federal government. To be fair (to Bernie) he did call for (33%?) state fund matching for his "free" college but I have not heard of any state fund matching requirements for M4A or reparations.
The base hasn't moved, but the far left of center is making more noise lately and making it seem like a shift.
IMHO, the demorat base has moved so far left that whoever can win the DNC primary will have little chance of winning the general POTUS election.
You must have cut classes for the rest of that course. There a lot more to it than one cute little snippet. Nowhere in history has a socialist experiment been successful. The basic reason is that socialism stifles initiative. Pretty soon the hard workers find out that their hard work doesn't return any different than the slacker, so they stop working hard. Failure of the system is not far behind.
You know, if policy and consistency of position were actually important to people, Elizabeth Warren would come out on top, no contest.
But oh noes, she took a DNA test and took Trump's troll bait. Now she can't be President.
I often doubt that this country is deserving of a principled and qualified leader.
Or is all you've got the simple-minded series,- "Socialism bad, Bernie socialist, Bernie bad."?
To me, all the additional people on the far left joining Bernie, means there are more votes in favor of it than before.
You have to understand that the word socialism has become a dirty word but the reality is that the kind of socialism that Bernie is supporting is not the bad kind but the kind found in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. It is falsely named socialism but in reality is Compassionate Capitalism and that is good, not bad.
What the Democrats will be doing as soon as a nominee is named and it is someone on the far left is explaining the difference and given that the nations I named are liked and have a high happiness quotients, more and more people will warm to it. People by nature want love more than hate. Economics to most people are secondary to having a happy and loving life.
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