I'm sure most leftists here wholeheartedly agree with him.
You are confusing saying something was unavoidable, with approval of the thing.I'm sure most leftists here wholeheartedly agree with him.
You didn't listen to the entire interview, did you? I did.I'm sure most leftists here wholeheartedly agree with him.
Thanks. Great post.....Cause he's right.
Oct 7 was the culminating, inevitable result of what happens when you murder, oppress, occupy, blockade, and keep 2.3 million people caged in an open air prison.
Want to know what happens when Palestinians resist "the right way?" When they petition peacefully for their rights, they are ignored by the international community or sniped by the Israeli occupiers. When they resist violently, Israel simply obliterates them with its vast edge in firepower.
And let's not forget that Israel has been routinely mass murdering unarmed Palestinians before Oct 7.
So the moral of the story is, you don't get to ****ing colonize, occupy, steal land, oppress, deny people basic human rights, and then pretend to be the ****ing victim when you suffer the inevitable consequences of your genocidal actions.
The deaths of those on Oct 7 and every Palestinian since then should be laid at the feet of Zionism, because it is impossible for free people to coexist with such an evil and oppressive ideology which distilled to its essence is little more than white supremacy with extra steps. The root cause of Palestinian violence, is Israeli oppression. If your conversation around the issue doesn't involve discussing this as a root cause then you have no intellectual honesty.
This is before I even start discussing the fact that the Israeli intelligence apparatus deliberately funded Hamas to split Palestinian unity from Fatah and then Israelis started ****ing crying about the exact consequences of all the underhanded, nefarious ****ery of their intelligence agencies.
So to recap - unless your discussion of this issue revolves around Palestinian liberation from Israeli oppression and colonization, you aren't interested in an actual end to the conflict. You're just interested in victim blaming.
I'd also add that there isn't a single accusation that Zionists can level at Hamas that the Israelis themselves aren't guilty of a hundred times over.
Mass rape on Oct 7? Unsubstantiated by any serious reporting but Israel has open debates in the Knesset about whether Palestinians in Israeli custody have any human rights at the hands of their rapist captors.
Using civilians as human shields? The IDF literally straps Palestinians to the front of their trucks.
"Hamas hides in tunnels" yes that's exactly what you're supposed to do when the enemy has air supremacy, didn't we see Israeli leadership go underground when the Iranians counterattacked and their ballistic missiles penetrated the iron dome?
"Hamas steals the aid!" Once again, zero evidence of this, but what we DO know is Israel literally pays proxy gangs in Gaza to steal the aid then accuse Hamas of doing it.
There's dozens such examples. Zionism is a fascist, white supremacist ideology and as fascists do routinely, they project everything they are guilty of onto their opposition. And like fascists, they are inveterate liars.
This is horrendous. CNN has aired video of the rape of a Palestinian prisoner by guards. Five guards have been arrested.
But the human rights groups investigating say there have been many such cases and also incidents of prisoners bound so tightly that limbs had to be amputated.
This case only came to light because the victim was taken to a civilian hospital in life threatening condition.
A right wing politician shouted "we can do anything to them" in a cabinet meeting, justifying the attack.
U.S. decries reported sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners after graphic video aired on Israeli TV
“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.www.nbcnews.com
There's dozens such examples. Zionism is a fascist, white supremacist ideology and as fascists do routinely, they project everything they are guilty of onto their opposition. And like fascists, they are inveterate liars.
I think this is a tall ask of the average MAGA.As a question of logic do you understand the distinction?
Well said.Cause he's right.
Oct 7 was the culminating, inevitable result of what happens when you murder, oppress, occupy, blockade, and keep 2.3 million people caged in an open air prison.
Want to know what happens when Palestinians resist "the right way?" When they petition peacefully for their rights, they are ignored by the international community or sniped by the Israeli occupiers. When they resist violently, Israel simply obliterates them with its vast edge in firepower.
And let's not forget that Israel has been routinely mass murdering unarmed Palestinians before Oct 7.
So the moral of the story is, you don't get to ****ing colonize, occupy, steal land, oppress, deny people basic human rights, and then pretend to be the ****ing victim when you suffer the inevitable consequences of your genocidal actions.
The deaths of those on Oct 7 and every Palestinian since then should be laid at the feet of Zionism, because it is impossible for free people to coexist with such an evil and oppressive ideology which distilled to its essence is little more than white supremacy with extra steps. The root cause of Palestinian violence, is Israeli oppression. If your conversation around the issue doesn't involve discussing this as a root cause then you have no intellectual honesty.
This is before I even start discussing the fact that the Israeli intelligence apparatus deliberately funded Hamas to split Palestinian unity from Fatah and then Israelis started ****ing crying about the exact consequences of all the underhanded, nefarious ****ery of their intelligence agencies.
So to recap - unless your discussion of this issue revolves around Palestinian liberation from Israeli oppression and colonization, you aren't interested in an actual end to the conflict. You're just interested in victim blaming.
Cause he's right.
Oct 7 was the culminating, inevitable result of what happens when you murder, oppress, occupy, blockade, and keep 2.3 million people caged in an open air prison.
Want to know what happens when Palestinians resist "the right way?" When they petition peacefully for their rights, they are ignored by the international community or sniped by the Israeli occupiers. When they resist violently, Israel simply obliterates them with its vast edge in firepower.
And let's not forget that Israel has been routinely mass murdering unarmed Palestinians before Oct 7.
So the moral of the story is, you don't get to ****ing colonize, occupy, steal land, oppress, deny people basic human rights, and then pretend to be the ****ing victim when you suffer the inevitable consequences of your genocidal actions.
The deaths of those on Oct 7 and every Palestinian since then should be laid at the feet of Zionism, because it is impossible for free people to coexist with such an evil and oppressive ideology which distilled to its essence is little more than white supremacy with extra steps. The root cause of Palestinian violence, is Israeli oppression. If your conversation around the issue doesn't involve discussing this as a root cause then you have no intellectual honesty.
This is before I even start discussing the fact that the Israeli intelligence apparatus deliberately funded Hamas to split Palestinian unity from Fatah and then Israelis started ****ing crying about the exact consequences of all the underhanded, nefarious ****ery of their intelligence agencies.
So to recap - unless your discussion of this issue revolves around Palestinian liberation from Israeli oppression and colonization, you aren't interested in an actual end to the conflict. You're just interested in victim blaming.
There's dozens such examples. Zionism is a fascist, white supremacist ideology and as fascists do routinely, they project everything they are guilty of onto their opposition. And like fascists, they are inveterate liars.
Well, Israel could have avoided it by not blatantly violating international law, trying to steal Palestinian land, and murdering Palestinian civilians, but they’ve shown themselves utterly unwilling to do so.I'm sure most leftists here wholeheartedly agree with him.
Gee, if we’re using Israel’s standards the Arab states would have been entirely justified in doing soYou guys keep forgetting who did what first.
Rightly or wrongly Western Europe, who didn't want the Jews escaping Germany, Poland, Hungry. etc., who didn't want to live in what had just been a fascist government and who didn't want to return to what was now a Communist satellite nation immigrating to France, England, etc. So they recreated Israel for them.
They got off the boats to what was their new homeland to meet a whole bunch of recently dispossessed Arabs who were intent on driving them into the sea. Except that didn't quite work out for them. It didn't change their minds though. To this day its drive the Jews into the sea or nothing.
Given that state of mind, what do you expect from the Jews who don't quite want to be driven into the sea?
Before you climb all over Israel for their being to harsh with their "Palestinien" neighbors have those gents drop their desire to see Israel eradicated.
If they drop the "From the river to the sea" shite, I bet we could even get Netanyahu to chill with the, 'If it's them or us its going to be them", shite.
What a prick! The interviewer should have ask him who invaded who to start this?I'm sure most leftists here wholeheartedly agree with him.
Go read the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict since 1948. The violence has been initiated by the Palestinians.Cause he's right.
Oct 7 was the culminating, inevitable result of what happens when you murder, oppress, occupy, blockade, and keep 2.3 million people caged in an open air prison.
Want to know what happens when Palestinians resist "the right way?" When they petition peacefully for their rights, they are ignored by the international community or sniped by the Israeli occupiers. When they resist violently, Israel simply obliterates them with its vast edge in firepower.
And let's not forget that Israel has been routinely mass murdering unarmed Palestinians before Oct 7.
So the moral of the story is, you don't get to ****ing colonize, occupy, steal land, oppress, deny people basic human rights, and then pretend to be the ****ing victim when you suffer the inevitable consequences of your genocidal actions.
The deaths of those on Oct 7 and every Palestinian since then should be laid at the feet of Zionism, because it is impossible for free people to coexist with such an evil and oppressive ideology which distilled to its essence is little more than white supremacy with extra steps. The root cause of Palestinian violence, is Israeli oppression. If your conversation around the issue doesn't involve discussing this as a root cause then you have no intellectual honesty.
This is before I even start discussing the fact that the Israeli intelligence apparatus deliberately funded Hamas to split Palestinian unity from Fatah and then Israelis started ****ing crying about the exact consequences of all the underhanded, nefarious ****ery of their intelligence agencies.
So to recap - unless your discussion of this issue revolves around Palestinian liberation from Israeli oppression and colonization, you aren't interested in an actual end to the conflict. You're just interested in victim blaming.
False.Go read the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict since 1948. The violence has been initiated by the Palestinians.
Israel pulled out of Gaza 2 decades ago. All it did was make the Gazans more violent, not less violent. Gazans don't want peace. They want to murder and loot their neighbor.Cause he's right.
Oct 7 was the culminating, inevitable result of what happens when you murder, oppress, occupy, blockade, and keep 2.3 million people caged in an open air prison.
Cause he's right.
Um, no. It's been a mixed bag, especially in the formation of Israel. Lest we forget Lehi, Irgun et.al.Go read the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict since 1948. The violence has been initiated by the Palestinians.
They think that Israel not put trade constraints on Gaza (like we do with Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.) means Gaza was actually a Prison.Israel pulled out of Gaza 2 decades ago. All it did was make the Gazans more violent, not less violent. Gazans don't want peace. They want to murder and loot their neighbor.
False.
The Nakba (Arabic: النَّكْبَة, romanized: an-Nakba, lit. 'the catastrophe') is the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.The term is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel.
As a whole, it covers the fracturing of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.
Israel’s endless attacks on Palestinian civilians show that to be completely and utterly false.Israel pulled out of Gaza 2 decades ago. All it did was make the Gazans more violent, not less violent. Gazans don't want peace. They want to murder and loot their neighbor.
Who did the people of Deir Yassin attack, again?"We attacked them and lost, therefore we are the victims."
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