mikeey said:How can the USA support the terrorist Began as President of Israel, who killed British soldiers, American allies, in 1947- 48. You tell me my American friends, whose allies are you Israel's or Britain's? Let's hear your voices again
Mikeey
MiamiFlorida said:Didn't Anwar Sadat, a former Egyptian terrorist win the Nobel Prize along with Begin? I believe it was because they renounced terrorism.
Did we support you in the Falkland Islands? WWII?
mikeey said:How can the Jewish people who went through hell in Nazi Germany inflict the same fate on others. Can you blame the palestineians for fighting back against oppression? Why can the two peoples live in peace in a state that doesn't favour one religion over another. Jesus said he came not only to save the house of Israel, but the whole world. He said to love god, and to love your neighbour as yourself. If we all did that wouldn't the world be a better place.
Mikeey
Navy Pride said:Are you really trying to make the comparison of the Nazi death camps to what is happening in Palestine????????
mikeey said:That is exactly the comparison that I was making. The palistinians have been kept in these camps with inadequate sanitationand medical supplies, high death rates during childhood, perhaps there were no gas chambers but are the palestinians merely suffering longer in atrocious conditions before they die.The nazi death camps only lasted for 6 years maximum, but the palistinians have been moved from pillar to post in various enclosures for over 30 years.
Mikeey
mikeey said:How can the Jewish people who went through hell in Nazi Germany inflict the same fate on others. Can you blame the palestineians for fighting back against oppression? Why can the two peoples live in peace in a state that doesn't favour one religion over another. Jesus said he came not only to save the house of Israel, but the whole world. He said to love god, and to love your neighbour as yourself. If we all did that wouldn't the world be a better place.
superskippy said:If you want to tote the refugee camp's as death camp's then your not blaming Israel, your blaming the Arabs. When the Palestinians were moved into Refugee camp's in Jordan, Syria and the West Bank (Under Jordanian Control) they were at the mercy of the Arabs. Rather than let them go and accept citizenship in any of those various nations they were kept in the ever worsening camp's to bring about political sympathy and use as a political weapon. The Arabs could end it any time they want, let the Palestinians out of the refugee camp's and give them citizenship. After all they are their Arab brothers.
We have nothing to do with the refugee camp's, and sending several hundred thousand Arab's with nothing to their name but anger into Gaza and the West Bank isn't gonig to solve anything, it will only incrase the poverty, and violence.
superskippy said:First off the Arabs who fled, fled during the first few days of the war, at the heeding of their Arab brothers, they did not want to get caught in the crossfire. The massacre was carried out by a terror wing of the Irgun and the Lechi. It is an un-excusable massacre but not the fault of our government.
superskippy said:True the Arabs were terrible planners, and could not work together as they should have been able to, but even then they had an Air Force, they had tanks, they had artillary, they had AMMUNITION. Egypt alone should have been capable of defeating us. The Haganah won by tenacity and resourcefulness. We had no grand army, no tanks, no artillary worth mentioning, we had no planes until the latter half of the war, and ammunition was always an issue as was getting machineguns. We were outgunned and outnumbered and out classed. Yet we won.
superskippy said:How can an Indipendant State launch an insurrection, in it's own territory? We declared our indipendance on the ground alotted to us, and the Arabs attacked. They coudl not stand a Jewish State. The Arab leaders so boastfully claimed that fact as the engine of war moved forward.
superskippy said:Saying that the Jew's declared war on Germany has only one route that you would try and prove I beleived. If it is otherwise I apologise. Also I never recall the World's Jew's making a decleration of holy war against Germany.
superskippy said:The Balfour Decleration had no true premise, it merely said that the British Government favored the idea of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine.
superskippy said:But I have found no contemporary evidence of such blanket, official 'calls' by any Arab government. And I have found no evidence that the Palestinians or any substantial group left because they heard such 'calls' or orders by outside Arab leaders. The only, minor, exceptions to this are the traces of the order, apparently by the Syrians, to some of the inhabitants of Eastern Galilee to leave a few days prior to, and in preparation for, the invasion of 15-16 May. This order affected at most several thousand Palestinians and, in any case, 'dovetailed' with Haganah efforts to drive out the population in this area. (Morris, 2003, p. 269).
superskippy said:It's common knowledge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War.
superskippy said:They did get land in Palestine, thay get the better part of the deal in fact, but they did not want to live alongside the Jewish people and assailed us. Also their is no Zionist betrayel, the zionest congress is an organization which is not affiliated with Germany.
superskippy said:Also your reasoning for the Arab views is flawed, a different view point is one thing but how you describe it
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