superskippy said:
Saying that the Jew's declared war on Germany has only one route that you would try and prove I beleived. If it is otherwise I apologise. Also I never recall the World's Jew's making a decleration of holy war against Germany.
In 1933, Mr. Untermeyer, went to ABC and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he said:
"The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them, that will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business."
And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. Their labor. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There just was not enough food for more than one third of the population.
Now in this declaration, which I have here, it was printed on page -- a whole page -- in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that: "this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the NRA" . [National Recovery Administration] -- which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless they followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, which of course was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court at that time.
superskippy said:
The Balfour Decleration had no true premise, it merely said that the British Government favored the idea of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine.
The history behind the Balfour declaration made it so much more.
The Lusitania, which I believe is the ship you were speaking of was carrying amunitions and was a viable sinking target. It would be much like us complaining about a Nation placing civilians in Military targets so ensure that striking those facilities would result in civilian casualties. Same premise. The Lusitania was sunk on 7th May 1915 and America entered into the war on April 6, 1917. Nearly 2 full years later. This was not the reason for their entry. The Americans had no love for the British and had nothing to gain by entering into a war with Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire and helping British Imperialism thrive. Something America was so dead set against seeing continue in WW2 that Roosevelt deliberately made Churchill run around in cricles and only agree with what plans he wanted to hatch and how terrirtories would be split after the war.
Benjamin H. Freedman, a jew, and aide to both American presidents during both wars and a high ranking Zionist official exposed all of this in his speech given at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D. C. in 1961. Media networks in this day and age and most of Wall Street stock broker's are Jewish. This is a fact. It doesn't make them good or bad and that is not the light I am attempting to cast here. Simply the fact that the Protcols of Zion were stated and implemented and there were certain knock on effects of this which were inevitable.
superskippy said:
But I have found no contemporary evidence of such blanket, official 'calls' by any Arab government. And I have found no evidence that the Palestinians or any substantial group left because they heard such 'calls' or orders by outside Arab leaders. The only, minor, exceptions to this are the traces of the order, apparently by the Syrians, to some of the inhabitants of Eastern Galilee to leave a few days prior to, and in preparation for, the invasion of 15-16 May. This order affected at most several thousand Palestinians and, in any case, 'dovetailed' with Haganah efforts to drive out the population in this area. (Morris, 2003, p. 269).
So your post states that some left and most were driven out. Thanks
superskippy said:
Never assume that knowledge which seems common to you is common to others. The arms there are interesting. I note that much of what the Arabs had on paper was not serviceable but still it does look very much like the new Zionist state got lucky. Appreicate the link. Tell me though, can anyone add articles to that Wikipedia site?
superskippy said:
They did get land in Palestine, thay get the better part of the deal in fact, but they did not want to live alongside the Jewish people and assailed us. Also their is no Zionist betrayel, the zionest congress is an organization which is not affiliated with Germany.
The Jews didn't like the Czar in WW1and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers -- the German-Jews -- Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.
After the Balfour agreement and considering that he Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany given that you had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in the USA. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that.
It was only after Britain signed the Balfour Agreement, supporting a jewish state in an area of the world it had NEVER had any interest in until that point that the Zionists started contributing huge amounts of cash to the British and French and lobbied the American government to join the war against Germany and ran newspaper articles making them out to be monsters where 6 montsh previous they were singing German praises. That could very much be conceived as a betrayal.
However, would I be correct in saying that when, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, the very first prayer that you recite, you stand -- and it's the only prayer for which you stand -- and you repeat three times a short prayer. The Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months - shall be null and void.
Of course that would alleviate any feeling of betrayal. This is not a judgement in any way shape or form. Its placing the pieces of history together in a fashion that makes sense.
superskippy said:
Also your reasoning for the Arab views is flawed, a different view point is one thing but how you describe it
If my reasoning is flawed please advise how and why in an argumentative format. Simply saying 2+2=5 regarding what I state is hardly an argument or intelligent stance to take when refuting another's reasoning. Its a cop-out.