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once NATO is there, Somalia with snow will vanish from Azov sea 100% . will NATO finish off new created Somalian off shore in Azov sea?
"Ukraine-Russia sea clash: Poroshenko urges Nato to send ships"...Nato has expressed "full support" for Ukraine, which is not a member state.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46381166
It will never happen and nobody with any sanity should even suggest it.
Such an action would constitute an invasion of Russian territory and would be resisted. Due to proximity to land based Russian anti ship defence systems, NATO would be defeated in theatre.
Russia owns neither the Black Sea nor the Sea of Azov.
.....................in your position, very wise.I don't comment on ownership....................~
It will never happen and nobody with any sanity should even suggest it.
Such an action would constitute an invasion of Russian territory and would be resisted. Due to proximity to land based Russian anti ship defence systems, NATO would be defeated in theatre.
Oh by the way Russian, who calls himselve "Westphalian": What do you think about the idea to erase Moscow from this planet? Stupid, isn't it? The question is: How stupid are we - and I fear we Germans are much more stupid than anyone in the world is able to imagine - specially if we should start to suffer under our old sickness "furor teutonicus". No - the most easy solution: Russia keeps the Krim and stops to attack the Ukraine and the Ukraine also stops to attack Russia. Sell your weapons and buy some equipment for Russian-Ukrainian folk-festivals. That's the better way.
once NATO is there, Somalia with snow will vanish from Azov sea 100% . will NATO finish off new created Somalian off shore in Azov sea?
"Ukraine-Russia sea clash: Poroshenko urges Nato to send ships"...Nato has expressed "full support" for Ukraine, which is not a member state.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46381166
Nothing is that simple,
crimea could be handed over in writing to russia tomorrow and they would still not end supporting proxy forces in eastern ukraine,
as the eastern ukraine proxy forces are there for the reason of keeping ukraine from nato, as a nato country needs to control it's borders,
ukraine might just let crimea go
but that but not make them happy
if they did that but turned around and joined nato.
The obvious part is that the donbass area was not annexed by russia like crimea was, meaning they hold more value staying disputed territory than new land for russia.
The NATO is nearly dead since Donald Trump is president of the USA.
Lol. What a load of monkey manure.
NATO just finished conducting the huge Trident Juncture 18 exercise in Norway.
As I write, 16 nations are in Germany participating in the multinational Combined Resolve XI exercise at U.S. Army Europe's Grafenwoehr and Hohenfels training bases.
Donald Trump likes to close the NATO. He's the monkey, his politics the manure.
General Mattis gave an interview with Brett Baier at the Reagan National Defense Forum. It was excellent. I have posted the entire interview below. It hits all the hot points and worth your time.
The Trump Mattis is only a shadow of the USMC General Mattis.
Trump stopped using NATO as his Mueller-distraction many months ago. Keep up.
The guided-missile destroyer USS Porter and the command and control ship USS Mount Whitney sail in the Black Sea during exercise Sea Breeze on July 13, 2018.
Ukraine is a partner of Nato
but Ukraine is not in the military alliance so that's not enough for Nato to get off the dime on this. Parts of the Azov are too shallow anyway for destroyers to include Russian. Nobody's going to try to fight his way through the Kerch Strait under the $4 bn bridge with its roadway on Russian soil.
SecDef Mattis and the Joint Chiefs got approval from Trump before the G-20 to release directly to Ukraine two "surplus" Coast Guard cutters controlled by USN and classified as in "best condition." Seven of the ten surplus Oliver Hazard Perry class CGC are in best condition and Ukraine may get more.
Pentagon and State are negotiating with Ukraine on its request to buy "surplus" USN frigates which will almost surely be approved. Pentagon has cleared Ukraine's request for air defense missiles which are likely to be the Patriot. Javelin antitank missiles are approved. SecState Pomeo will be in Brussels Tuesday for a foreign ministers scheduled meeting. USAF has F-15C in Ukraine for the first time since 1998, deployed during summer for Operation Clear Sky 2018 which has almost a thousand air force personnel from nine countries.
Russia has fortified the Black Sea into a super anti-ship defense zone with multiple layers of sea, air, undersea, and land-based capabilities reaching out nearly to Turkey's shore. So any ship no matter how heavily armed is under threat while operating in the area. Additionally Montreux Convention limits the number of foreign ships that may operate in the Black Sea, foreign meaning, basically, not bordering it.
Anyone who might think Russia has all the tough guys who are smart would need to wake up and smell the coffee...
Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley Tells Putin: "We will beat you. We will beat you harder than you've ever been beaten before."
Milley spent part of his career in Special Operations Forces and commanded SpOps in Afghanistan where Milley left a trail of enemy broken necks. Maybe we'll send Milley to the Kremlin where he could appear suddenly in Putin's Den.
War between Russia and the United States would be epic so as the general knows it's prospect is not to be taken lightly. However, within 30 days or so Putin would need to go nuclear to save his ass. Which is why if anyone ever grabs Putin by the neck to emphasize the point he's going to say uncle in an instant. No war will be necessary. And while we're speaking of necks and asses you'll need to pull yours out.
What an idiot. And this man is one of the highest military commanders of the USA? Or the next president?
Keep puzzling and you may eventually get there.:2razz:What are you talking about? :shock:
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