The fact the BBC has had a strong liberal bias for decades isn't news.... What's news here, is that someone who worked there actually had the honesty and integrity to admit it. You just don't see that from the lib media very often.
The BBC World Service, which I frequently listen to on NPR stations, 1) swings massively to the left, 2) is obsessed with the United States, and 3) doesn't understand how things work here. And never is that more clear than during an American election cycle. Listen this fall. You'll see.
People think the "BTV" network in the silly movie version of "V for Vendetta" is mocking Bill O'Reilly, but no -- it's a pretty spot-on sendup of the BBC.
How do you know he's honest? Or do you equate honest with what fits your view?
For years, the BBC was the most blatant and obvious example of liberal biased media in the world. The fact that you question this is quite amazing.
The report from their own internal investigation released in 2007 confirmed the bias.
BBC report finds bias within corporation - Telegraph
BBC accused of institutional 'trendy left-wing bias' | News
Then there are the leaked memos that forced executives as well as the "Stars" of the BBC, to admit their liberal bias.
Yes, we are biased on religion and politics, admit BBC executives | News
We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News | Mail Online
So you know what... There is no reason on God's green earth why myself, or anyone else should doubt this latest admission.
Again, based on what? It doesn't affirm your view, so it is biased left, right? Looking at news as affirmation.
If that's how you look at news, then that's your own hangup. But it would explain why you have no problem seeing the bias of Fox News yet can't seem to detect it anywhere else.
I'll give you effort points, but no. I seek actual evidence. Nothing more and nothing less.
The BBC itself says so here:
BBC NEWS | Entertainment | BBC 'must become more impartial'
Its personalities say so here:
We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News | Mail Online
Rundown here:
Confessions of a BBC liberal - Times Online
Very nice summary with specifics here:
Media Bias at the BBC
Now, I'll take it as read that you're simply going to dismiss it all out of hand.
I don't know why this is so hard to follow. It is not something that can be admitted to by any individual. It is something that has to be proven through a proper study that measures language and accuacy without consequence. These articles aren't really new, and they still don't do what you want to claim they do. One is a general statement that is prue PR, and the other two are simply opinions, with no more weight than the opinions of those that they are not biased. The only study even mentioned so far says the exact opposite. And I have no idea what rigor they used to reach that conclusion. As long as your side keeps presenting opinion, no matter whose opinion it is, or flawed efforts at study (asking the wrong questions or using the wrong standard), you can't prove the bias you claim.
Agian, this is not hard to follow. What you present as evidence, isn't.
i know, i know, shocker, right? the BBC?!? nooooo..... :roll:
Mark Thompson told the right-of-centre Spectator magazine that there was an institutional bias when he joined the organisation, reinforcing the findings of a 2007 internal report which concluded that greater efforts were required to avoid liberal bias.
"In the BBC I joined 30 years ago, there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people's personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left," Thompson said.
"The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher...
mystified indeed; how in the world did chaos and blood not ensue conservative governance? and how dare the unwashed masses not listen to the advise of their betters in the media?
If that's how you look at news, then that's your own hangup. But it would explain why you have no problem seeing the bias of Fox News yet can't seem to detect it anywhere else.
i know, i know, shocker, right? the BBC?!? nooooo..... :roll:
Mark Thompson told the right-of-centre Spectator magazine that there was an institutional bias when he joined the organisation, reinforcing the findings of a 2007 internal report which concluded that greater efforts were required to avoid liberal bias.
"In the BBC I joined 30 years ago, there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people's personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left," Thompson said.
"The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher...
mystified indeed; how in the world did chaos and blood not ensue conservative governance? and how dare the unwashed masses not listen to the advise of their betters in the media?
i know, i know, shocker, right? the BBC?!? nooooo..... :roll:
Mark Thompson told the right-of-centre Spectator magazine that there was an institutional bias when he joined the organisation, reinforcing the findings of a 2007 internal report which concluded that greater efforts were required to avoid liberal bias.
"In the BBC I joined 30 years ago, there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people's personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left," Thompson said.
"The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher...
mystified indeed; how in the world did chaos and blood not ensue conservative governance? and how dare the unwashed masses not listen to the advise of their betters in the media?
bias = labeling commentary as newsbias = doesn't confirm my preconcieved view of the world.
bias = labeling commentary as news
What is he actually saying when dogma is dropped and the critical thinking head is put on...
1. His opinion is that when he joined the BBC 30 years ago, the "personal politics" of most of the journalists in BBC current affairs was to the left.
2. His opinion is that this group of journalists with left leaning "personal politics" was vocal within the organisation and were mystified by the politics of a right wing PM.
3. His opinion is that the BBC struggled to be impartial with this dominant "left leaning" grouping BUT it doesn't say that their news output was partial.
Having discussed this with a BBC employee many years ago this is something that I can offer similar opinion/anecdotal evidence for. It is likely that he was referring to the group as "vocal" because the BBC has a lot of painful editorial meetings when they discuss the content of their output in great detail. I can imagine that that would be a very "vocal" meeting.
Dogma is your enemy.
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