Banana tariffs.

[forn]

You OK with Trump imposing a National Sales Tax on American businesses and consumers?

I'm not really a fan of tariffs on bananas to be honest. But at this point I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

 

[Callen]

I'm not really a fan of tariffs on bananas to be honest. But at this point I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

That wasn't my question but I get why you won't answer.

 

[Peter]

Next is coffee. I hope Hawaii can man up.

Just imagine the riots if the supply of coffee was ultra limited due to tarrifs?

Sure, they'd be sleepy rioters but they'd give it a go.

 

[forn]

That wasn't my question but I get why you won't answer.

You're asking about the Constitutionality? The president can apply retaliatory tariffs to other countries.
If you're claiming what Trump is doing is illegal, which I disagree with, work it out in the courts.

 

[Callen]

You're asking about the Constitutionality? The president can apply retaliatory tariffs to other countries.
If you're claiming what Trump is doing is illegal, which I disagree with, work it out in the courts.

They aren't retaliatory nor are they to protect an industry. For example the UK has no tariffs and yet Trump imposed 10% on them. You yourself said that these tariffs were just to get money for the government. Anyhow, I realize that if Trump does it then it's OK.....so not a lot of sense talking about it. Enjoy your autocracy because that is where you are headed.

 

[What if...?]

Seriously? There's an import tariff on bananas?
That can't be right. Has the American government really become that incompetent, that stupid?

Yes.

Yes it has.

 

[What if...?]

I mean, they put tariffs on literally everything and said they'd figure it all out later.



Yes, because the average voter is and doesn't really understand what they're voting for anymore. We're influenced by highly-addictive technologies that influence how we think, to the point where we don't think at all or don't know how or what to think.

I have never had social media. Aside from this anonymous site.

Because I understood that his was going to happen from the start.

 

[forn]

Anyhow, I realize that if Trump does it then it's OK.....so not a lot of sense talking about it. Enjoy your autocracy because that is where you are headed.

If we end up in an autocracy, it will have been a cooperative effort by Republicans and Democrats. They've been pushing more power for the executive branch with each president we've had.

 

[devildavid]

I'm not really a fan of tariffs on bananas to be honest. But at this point I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Your not losing sleep doesn’t make tariffs on bananas any less stupid or inflationary. The topic is the economic shooting in the foot that such tariffs are. Your lack of concern doesn’t change that nor does it matter that you don’t care. That is your problem.

 

[forn]

Your not losing sleep doesn’t make tariffs on bananas any less stupid or inflationary. The topic is the economic shooting in the foot that such tariffs are. Your lack of concern doesn’t change that nor does it matter that you don’t care. That is your problem.

You guys are hilarious. I agreed with you that I don't really like tariffs on bananas, but that's never enough for the left, you're still unhappy. But no, a 20 cent increase on a pound of bananas isn't going to break my budget. And the most recent inflation rate (for May) was 2.4%, which is not an alarming rate.

 

[multivita-man]

I have never had social media. Aside from this anonymous site.

Because I understood that his was going to happen from the start.

AI is going to make worse -- potentially much worse. Look at how people already copy something from ChatGPT or Co-Pilot and post it here, thinking that it's a source. I mean as far as AI goes, those are generally engineered in ways that seem responsible -- for now. But I don't trust Meta or Grok (Elon/X) at all. Those products are going to be a reflection of their owners' ethics, and Zuckerberg and Musk have none.

 

[What if...?]

AI is going to make worse -- potentially much worse. Look at how people already copy something from ChatGPT or Co-Pilot and post it here, thinking that it's a source. I mean as far as AI goes, those are generally engineered in ways that seem responsible -- for now. But I don't trust Meta or Grok (Elon/X) at all. Those products are going to be a reflection of their owners' ethics, and Zuckerberg and Musk have none.

There’s a program on Netflix, I think, called “The Social Dilemma”. It’s kinda cartoon-ey, but the people interviewed are the people who built Facebook etc. and it is clear they didn’t realize how it was going to be used and abused. Like the show is an attempt at correction.

The guy who wrote the original algorithm for Facebook, for example, advised against following links. As they are designed to lead your attention somewhere someone paid to take it.

That show MAGA. was made. There are contracts and receipts for it.

 

[Variant]

Lutnick is such an ass. I don’t understand how he was a successful businessman.

Perhaps you aren't getting that many in business leadership roles are assholes, many of which barely understand what they are doing.

A certain percentage of those will succeed anyway.

It's something many who work in corporate America seem to have direct knowledge of but still don't seem to be able to process.