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Just stop with the asininity. His actions put him there.
And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit.
That does not automatically speak of negligence.
Only in your imagination.
Which is wrong. You do not assume wrong doing and commit to a prosecution until after the facts are in, and only if the facts point to such wrong doing.The police commissioner intoned that there would be a criminal investigation and a prosecution. I don't know if any conviction will result, but it's a pretty safe bet someone(s) is going to be brought up on charges over this.
No.
If his injuries were the result of normal force to quell his resistance that is what matters.
If that is the case, the Police did no wrong.
Which is wrong. You do not assume wrong doing and commit to a prosecution until after the facts are in, and only if the facts point to such wrong doing.
I am sensing a pattern in your posts....What do you have against law and order?
His limp body is definitely an indication that he was injured during.Define "normal force." And there is no indication yet whether his injuries were sustained during or after his arrest...
:dohbut the commissioner has already publicly stated that officers should have contacted emergency services on several occasions and failed to. That, by itself, is negligent.
Wut? iLOLIt seems that the facts are already pointing that way, if we're reading the commissioner right.
An investigation MUST be done with an unbiased, non-partisan group .. if this exists ..Just stop with the asininity. His actions put him there.
And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit.
That does not automatically speak of negligence.
Only in your imagination.
Well, j-Mac says that the USDOJ has already begun an investigation which is better than leaving it just to the department in question to investigate themselves. I think some European countries have a very good way of dealing with it that I wouldn't mind seeing tried here. The IPCC, Independent Police Complaints Commission. They investigate and review all forms of misconduct by police officers, including violence, human rights abuses, etc. Their tasks are to ensure that complaints about police abuse are investigated in an adequate manner, and in accordance with the law. The mission of such bodies is primarily to ensure public confidence in police.
I question the degree of police responsibility .. What if a man has a heart attack while being detained ? Of course, this does look to be highly suspicious ..Not being buckled into a vehicle you never wanted to be in in the first place, while restrained and unable to buckle yourself in or break your fall...
That is called negligence. Passing several opportunities to call paramedics when care was obviously needed trips the scale toward criminal negligence.
It's pretty open and shut. Gray died in police custody by police actions.
His limp body is definitely an indication that he was injured during.
I question the degree of police responsibility .. What if a man has a heart attack while being detained ? Of course, this does look to be highly suspicious ..
Did you not pay attention to what was previously stated?...which means he most definitely should have been secured in some way inside of the van, doesn't it?
Unless, that is, you believe it's totally reasonable to put a baby in the trunk during rush hour traffic.
What law says that?the officers have a responsibility
Did you not pay attention to what was previously stated?
"And there may have been a reason for that, such as he wasn't able to sit."
What law says that?
Not any attention that couldn't later be provided.If he had no way to sit.... Doesn't that imply he needed medical attention?
No, that does not say the Officer's have any such responsibility.The Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments.
Not any attention that couldn't later be provided.
No, that does not say the Officer's have any such responsibility.
Holy ****!A person would have to be the dumbest sort of brute to legitimately believe that:
1) a paralyzing neck injury can be dealt with later, and
2) a limp person will be just fine after even a gentle car ride in the back of a van with no form of restraint.
Again, it takes a dumb brutality to legitimately believe witholding medical care for a person in your custody does not constitute cruel and unusual punishment, or that allowing a person in custody to die without offering aid doesn't violate a person's right to due process.
Do you believe cops can let prisoners die if they think they deserve it?
I have to conclude you are either being stubborn for an argumentative purpose, or are legitimately damaged as a person. Neither explanation, however, excuses such a bad argument
Yeah, won't matter to the police detractors. They'll simply say it's a cover up.Uh oh. The report coming out is saying that a witness inside the van is claiming that Gray was intentionally trying to hurt himself
I laugh at people who say they want an independent investigation. What they really mean, is they want an investigation that finds the cops guilty. If the cops are not found guilty, then the investigator was somehow paid off by the police or the government and another investigation is needed. You could perform 100 investigations, but the only investigation that matters for a lot of you people is an investigation that comes the the conclusion that the cops are guilty.
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