Jon Slice
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Background checks only stifle law abiding citizens. They absolutely do not stop bad people from getting guns.
I have a friend who has been a federal cop for 20+ years. Our dept. sent out notice that a new to market firearm has been approved to carry as back up as long as we qualify. Since we have to provide our own bugs, he & I together went down to purchase a couple. We picked em out, filled out the 4473 and were ready to go when the clerk told my buddy that he had a conditional. My friend got on the phone w/ FDLE and explained that he knew what they where seeing in NCIC and explained that it was an arrest from 1986 and no charges where ever filed, it was only an arrest. After giving them his LE I.D. # and telling them who he was with and giving them the number to the dept. HR they said they could not call anyone and it doesn't matter that he's Law Enforcement. WOW! This was on Wed. and they still haven't cleared it. This was his only arrest ever and he's been cop most of his life since. He's never had a conditional before.
Background checks only stifle law abiding citizens. They absolutely do not stop bad people from getting guns.
I have a friend who has been a federal cop for 20+ years. Our dept. sent out notice that a new to market firearm has been approved to carry as back up as long as we qualify. Since we have to provide our own bugs, he & I together went down to purchase a couple. We picked em out, filled out the 4473 and were ready to go when the clerk told my buddy that he had a conditional. My friend got on the phone w/ FDLE and explained that he knew what they where seeing in NCIC and explained that it was an arrest from 1986 and no charges where ever filed, it was only an arrest. After giving them his LE I.D. # and telling them who he was with and giving them the number to the dept. HR they said they could not call anyone and it doesn't matter that he's Law Enforcement. WOW! This was on Wed. and they still haven't cleared it. This was his only arrest ever and he's been cop most of his life since. He's never had a conditional before.
Background checks only stifle law abiding citizens. They absolutely do not stop bad people from getting guns.
I think you meant to say "A back ground check didn't work"
Say that to the woman who has the x-boyfriend threatening to kill her and the cops tell her "He hasn't actually acted so we can't do anything." and who gets her throat cut on the 2nd day of a three day wait. It happens a lot more than you know. I see it personally.That is corect and there are a lot of them. That is what happens when 10-12 million guns get sold a year (guessing since its about 1.2m in CA). People expect perfection - lame. I have no trouble with a reasonable back ground check and even a simple safety test like they mandate here in CA - though the test is only required once in 3 years and to me once enough. I do think background checks on those who already legally own firearms is a ridiculous waste of money and resources - save it for someone that has never bought one and likely shouldn't for some reason - of which there are many.
I think you meant to say "A back ground check didn't work"
I have a friend who has been a federal cop for 20+ years. Our dept. sent out notice that a new to market firearm has been approved to carry as back up as long as we qualify. Since we have to provide our own bugs, he & I together went down to purchase a couple. We picked em out, filled out the 4473 and were ready to go when the clerk told my buddy that he had a conditional. My friend got on the phone w/ FDLE and explained that he knew what they where seeing in NCIC and explained that it was an arrest from 1986 and no charges where ever filed, it was only an arrest. After giving them his LE I.D. # and telling them who he was with and giving them the number to the dept. HR they said they could not call anyone and it doesn't matter that he's Law Enforcement. WOW! This was on Wed. and they still haven't cleared it. This was his only arrest ever and he's been cop most of his life since. He's never had a conditional before.
Background checks only stifle law abiding citizens. They absolutely do not stop bad people from getting guns.
Μολὼν λαβέ;1062109264 said:I have a few questions por favor.
1. Has your friend purchased a firearm from an FFL dealer since his arrest or was this his first attempt?
2. Has your friend carried a back-up firearm since his arrest before attempting this purchase? If so, where did he get it; e. g. an individual, a loner from a friend, or FFL purchase?
3. What firearm did you purchase as your back-up? Is it for off-duty and on-duty, and how will you carry it?
Thanks...
You've got to be kidding? He called them and they insisted he go through the proper channels? The nerve!!!
Say that to the woman who has the x-boyfriend threatening to kill her and the cops tell her "He hasn't actually acted so we can't do anything." and who gets her throat cut on the 2nd day of a three day wait. It happens a lot more than you know. I see it personally.
Say that to the woman who has the x-boyfriend threatening to kill her and the cops tell her "He hasn't actually acted so we can't do anything." and who gets her throat cut on the 2nd day of a three day wait. It happens a lot more than you know. I see it personally.
More likely he'd shoot her, with a gun he got because they didn't do a background check
1. My friend has purchased many, many firearms from FFL's since the issue.
2. We have always carried BUGs since we became cops. Our dept. requires that we purchase any firearm used for duty carry from an FFL.
3. S&W M&P shield. We carry 24-7-365/6.
Sorry but we don't tell anyone, even those on some internet forum, how we carry our hide gun.
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