The only problem is that no one knows who's voice it is on that 911 call. One audio expert has stated that it was Martin's voice. The former head of the FBI audiology lab stated that there was no way to determine who's voice it was, or what exactly was being said.
No.
I think you mean eyewitness accountS -- plural -- including the witness who said that Zimmerman was on top of Martin.
Yes, and Zimmerman says he got on-top of Trayvon after he shot him. ??? So what?
Maybe you already forgot.
Evidence in toto.
Of course.
Another witness, contradicting the first, said she believed Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon when she peeked.
“First we heard like a howling sound,” she said. “And then the second time we heard a more-clearly ‘help’ sound.”
She said she couldn’t tell who was crying out.
“At first I couldn’t see anything. It was dark,” she said. “The second time I looked — I looked so many times outside I don’t know which one was which … What I remember is, it was too dark. And then a guy was on top of another guy — and the shot.”
Though she couldn’t describe the men’s faces, she was able to recall their physiques: “I know after seeing the TV of what’s happening — comparing their pictures — I think Zimmerman is definitely on top because of his size.”
Read more here:
Cries in the night: Witness conflict about what happened in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
Cries in the night: Witness conflict about what happened in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
Ah yes, the lady who said it
was too dark to see believes it to be Zimmerman. The key word is believes, as in, doesn't really know.
You should have relied on the lady who actually saw him on-top of the dead Trayvon, at least then your statement wouldn't appear to be moronic.
You're assuming that Zimmerman shot him while this was happening ... which seems unlikely as Martin was found lying face down in the grass.
Trayvon fell that way after being shot.
Funny how you're picking and choosing which eye witness account to credit, despite the fact that the witness you're tossing out said she was sure it was Zimmerman on top based upon his build versus Martin's build.
Ahhh, I see. You did forget about evidence in toto.
And as I've posted several times, the FLORIDA SUPREME COURT has held that under Florida's SYG statute, the defendant has the burden to prove his case by a preponderance of the evidence.
Now you are misstating what is required.
The defendant in claiming Self-defense, must make a showing, by preponderance of the evidence, to support the claim of self-defense.
Presently we have a preponderance of the evidence that says he did.
Seriously, who the hell tries to pound someone's head into to the ground during a fight? How do you even get leverage to do that on a bald head? I'd agree it was possible if Martin was raining blows down on his face and caused his head to hit the concrete, but the slamming his head into the pavement thing is just stupid. As stupid as Zimmerman's camp claiming Martin tried to smother him and said "Okay, you got me," after he was shot.
I do!
At least when both parties have been drinking.
I got into a mutual confrontation with a fellow soldier. He took me to the ground in a headlock that I wasn't going to get out of.
My arm was free and his head was right there.
I started slamming his head into the ground with my forearm. Two hits and he passed out.