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Modern science is based on positivism. Positivism says that there is no difference between something that doesn't exist and something that exists and hasn't been observed. So modern science says the extent of our universe is only those things which we observe. This seems illogical to me.
Zyroh said:Modern science is based on positivism. Positivism says that there is no difference between something that doesn't exist and something that exists and hasn't been observed. So modern science says the extent of our universe is only those things which we observe. This seems illogical to me. I won't even go into the extent at which our science is dominated by the elite that decide what 'knowledge' appears in our text books and scientific journals. Remember positivism, there is no man behind the curtain until you observe him.
What risk? There was no risk. Skipping vaccines = dumb.
There is inherent risk involved with any medical procedure and receiving a vaccine is a medical procedure.there were charges against Wakefield's study very early on here and the Govt tried to make the case for the MMR vaccine but it's not easy to be rational about what you do or do not put into your child's body when they are so helpless. My ex wife and I read the literature at the time and had our two boys vaccinated - but reading the literature still didn't dispell all fear as the needles went in.
Not strictly true. There is a remote chance of a negative reaction occurring that can cause everything from skin irritation to death. It's EXTREMELY rare but it is, technically, still a risk.What risk? There was no risk.
No, as much as it may crack the earth open for me to say this, I'm with Vichio. Unless you have been medically advised by several doctors or other similar professionals, skipping vaccines is a bad move. Your chances of catching the diseases vaccines are meant to prevent are greater than your chances of a negative reaction and there is no known mechanic for vaccinations to create or spur autism."Skipping vaccines = dumb" is very easy to say when you are not the one with a child/dependent with this condition. If you have not personally lived with this challenge you cannot know what it is like, nor how greatly you hold out for a cure/improvement, if even only deep within your heart.
For ****'s sake. There is no elemental mercury in vaccines.Still doesn't mean that mercury wasnt in some vaccines being distributed.
I spend almost 60 hours a week helping 25 people with everything from mild Aspergers to almost unable to communicate. I am thoroughly familiar with the experience of having to be a parental figure to someone with a severe neuro or physical developmental disorder. Dont play that card.Hopelite
There is a huge difference between "working" with the disabled and raising them. Your work day has an end.
I spend almost 60 hours a week helping 25 people with everything from mild Aspergers to almost unable to communicate. I am thoroughly familiar with the experience of having to be a parental figure to someone with a severe neuro or physical developmental disorder. Dont play that card.
Peer reviewed science corrected the fraud, and Wakefield is now disgraced.Amazing! Peer reviewed science failed us? I wonder what other failures of Peer Review are out there...
Still doesn't mean that mercury wasnt in some vaccines being distributed.
Perhaps I was not clear. My point was, not only did this widely cited study (believe me within the community of people with Autism in a family member this study/conclusion was very widely read and hotly debated), convince a certain percentage of people NOT to vaccinate their children (in my case it was not an issue as my son was already older when it came out, and we would not have taken that route), it raised hope for many that by following its conclusions their children would somehow recover.
"Skipping vaccines = dumb" is very easy to say when you are not the one with a child/dependent with this condition. If you have not personally lived with this challenge you cannot know what it is like, nor how greatly you hold out for a cure/improvement, if even only deep within your heart.
So what? There's mercury in the air.
During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains very little more mercury than that.3
Where is the evidence that giving a child vaccines increase their risk of having autism.
Also known as "imagination land".That is the realm of philosophy.
Perhaps I was not clear. My point was, not only did this widely cited study (believe me within the community of people with Autism in a family member this study/conclusion was very widely read and hotly debated), convince a certain percentage of people NOT to vaccinate their children (in my case it was not an issue as my son was already older when it came out, and we would not have taken that route), it raised hope for many that by following its conclusions their children would somehow recover.
"Skipping vaccines = dumb" is very easy to say when you are not the one with a child/dependent with this condition. If you have not personally lived with this challenge you cannot know what it is like, nor how greatly you hold out for a cure/improvement, if even only deep within your heart.
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