At Protests, Guns Are Doing the Talking

[RF667799]

Peaceful people don't carry. Fearful people do.

Another silly stab at maligning political opponents. Those aren't mutually exclusive anyway.

 

[poppopfox]

Another silly stab at maligning political opponents. Those aren't mutually exclusive anyway.

Another silly retort from the peanut gallery. I haven't had any 'opponents' in years, not even yourself, although I do seem to be living in your head. Do you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be an opponent? That's just sad and leads to negative Karmic energy that only hurts the one that perceives those imaginary villains.

Enlighten yourself my friend. The Theory of Karma in Buddhism

 

[RF667799]

Another silly retort from the peanut gallery. I haven't had any 'opponents' in years, not even yourself, although I do seem to be living in your head. Do you consider anyone who disagrees with you to be an opponent? That's just sad and leads to negative Karmic energy that only hurts the one that perceives those imaginary villains.

Enlighten yourself my friend. The Theory of Karma in Buddhism

For further enlightenment, see: Self-serving sanctimonious piffle.

 

[Maidenrules29]

Gun dealers target insecure men.

I think you meant to say prepared, not insecure. I realize what you are getting at regarding the advertising tactics of firearms manufacturers, however, I speak for myself when I say that I walk around pretty confidently throughout my day-to-day existence WITH my CCW firearm. It's not being "insecure" to want to protect your own life or your family's lives from harm, no matter what the small odds of being attacked are.

 

[VanceMack]

There is no logical argument that owning and carrying a gun is a civil right. Its a fantasy.

Its a Constitutional right...and people that have spent their careers ****ing over black Americans and destroying their families and children probably shouldnt be talking about 'civil rights'.

 

[CLAX1911]

Scared of us? These guys belonged to that group, did they not?

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No they didn't. You would like that does so you could justify you're irrational fear.

These people belong to the group of want to be policemen. Carrying gun for self-defense doesn't mean you go chasing people down.

 

[Galactic Spin]

How so? If encouraging one's children to participate in the legal use of firearms is "real" grooming; why isn't encouraging one's children to participate in the legal use of motorcycles?

So you don't understand non sequitur

 

[Galactic Spin]

No they didn't. You would like that does so you could justify you're irrational fear.

These people belong to the group of want to be policemen. Carrying gun for self-defense doesn't mean you go chasing people down.

Well that will be very helpful, once we are all able to read minds.

 

[RF667799]

So you don't understand non sequitur

Noted is there is no explanation of the accusation, just the rather inane expectation that the accusation can stand on its own.

My point stands, unrefuted.

 

[Bum]

At Protests, Guns Are Doing the Talking​

Good; I hope the elected civil servants are listening....they exist for the citizens; we do not exist for them.

 

[poppopfox]

For further enlightenment, see: Self-serving sanctimonious piffle.

Pathetic projection of effluents my friend. Be better.


“The more a man knows, the more willing he is to learn. The less a man knows, the more positive he is that he knows everything...”
― Robert G. Ingersoll

 

[poppopfox]

No they didn't. You would like that does so you could justify you're irrational fear.

What fear, be specific, or were you just being snarky, because I don't see any semblance of an argument there.

These people belong to the group of want to be policemen. Carrying gun for self-defense doesn't mean you go chasing people down.

Beg to differ. A California clerk was fatally shot by a robbery suspect, authorities say. The suspect won't be charged with murder.

The clerk chased the suspect down and opened fire on him before the robber pulled his own weapon and killed the clerk. Concealed carry 1, humanity 0.

 

[j brown's body]

This is bullshit. Anti-democratic, anti-free speech. It's terrorism.

 

[CLAX1911]

What fear, be specific, or were you just being snarky, because I don't see any semblance of an argument there.

The specific fear is a phobia it's irrational fear. Being afraid of something you shouldn't be afraid of.

Beg to differ. A California clerk was fatally shot by a robbery suspect, authorities say. The suspect won't be charged with murder.

The clerk chased the suspect down and opened fire on him before the robber pulled his own weapon and killed the clerk. Concealed carry 1, humanity 0.

So this is how you justify your fear? Don't chase people down and you won't have to worry about them shooting you.

You have no reason to fear this happening to you.

 

[Bum]

"A New York Times analysis of more than 700 armed demonstrations found that, at about 77 percent of them, people openly carrying guns represented right-wing views, such as opposition to L.G.B.T.Q. rights and abortion access, hostility to racial justice rallies and support for former President Donald J. Trump’s lie of winning the 2020 election.

Others argue that openly carrying firearms at public gatherings, particularly when there is no obvious self-defense reason, can have a corrosive effect, leading to curtailed activities, suppressed opinions or public servants who quit out of fear and frustration. Concerned about armed protesters, local election officials in Arizona, Colorado and Oregon have requested bulletproofing for their offices. Adam Searing, a lawyer and Georgetown University professor who helps families secure access to health care, said he saw the impact on free speech when people objecting to Covid restrictions used guns to make their point. In some states, disability rights advocates were afraid to show up to support mask mandates because of armed opposition, Mr. Searing said.

Across the country, there is evidence of increasing Republican involvement in militias. A membership list for the Oath Keepers, made public last year, includes 81 elected officials or candidates, according to a report by the Anti-Defamation League. Most of them appear to be Republicans. Another nationwide militia, the American Patriots Three Percent, recently told prospective members that it worked to support “individuals seeking election to local G.O.P. boards,” according to an archived version of its website."

Link

A couple of issues here that are linked.

1. The pillar of a democratic society is the right to speak and assemble to hear ideas. Our hope is that logical arguments will carry the day. Words are the weapons and my opponent has an equal right to them. Armed protesters and rally goers announce that words have failed and they replace them with force and intimidation.

2. The Republican Party supports guns at protests and rallies. Many of them feel the 2nd Amendment gives them the right to political violence. They have allowed armed militias to be part of their party. They also mingle with Neo-Nazis. This is a very disturbing situation.

Did someone open fire?
If not....what's the issue?

 

[CLAX1911]

Did someone open fire?
If not....what's the issue?

It's that if it becomes violent there is a solution and it can be controlled with the solution. That's the issue.

People have to behave themselves that's it.

 

[Ambig]

It's that if it becomes violent there is a solution and it can be controlled with the solution. That's the issue.

People have to behave themselves that's it.

So you think we good Americans should have gone to the Capitol on Jan6 and put some rounds of solution on those misbehaving insurrectionists?

Or am I misreading you?

 

[CLAX1911]

So you think we good Americans should have gone to the Capitol on Jan6 and put some rounds of solution on those misbehaving insurrectionists?

Or am I misreading you?

Someone did the only death as a result was death from a gunshot wound.

 

[Ambig]

Someone did the only death as a result was death from a gunshot wound.

Well, it's good to hear that your support law enforcement shooting the violent insurrectionists, but I wonder who gets to decide who should be shot and who shouldn't, out in the world?

I mean, it sounds a little like anarchy to me.

 

[CLAX1911]

Well, it's good to hear that your support law enforcement shooting the violent insurrectionists, but I wonder who gets to decide who should be shot and who shouldn't, out in the world?

I mean, it sounds a little like anarchy to me.

Have whatever conversation you want with whatever imaginary person you want.

 

[poppopfox]

The specific fear is a phobia it's irrational fear. Being afraid of something you shouldn't be afraid of.

So this is how you justify your fear? Don't chase people down and you won't have to worry about them shooting you.

The article was posted to disprove your claim that "Carrying gun for self-defense doesn't mean you go chasing people down." Your deductive reasoning and/or comprehension abilities seem to be in need of a tune-up if you think I posted the link to justify a fear. Or perhaps you don't care to be corrected and just lashed out. I'll go with the latter.

You have no reason to fear this happening to you.

Projection. I don't.

What are you afraid of when you feel the need to carry a gun in the public square?

 

[CLAX1911]

The article was posted to disprove your claim that "Carrying gun for self-defense doesn't mean you go chasing people down."

It doesn't though it actually proves my claim you don't chase someone down for defense. And people who carry guns don't do that because when it happens they write an article about it if it was an everyday thing it wouldn't merit that.

Your deductive reasoning and/or comprehension abilities seem to be in need of a tune-up if you think I posted the link to justify a fear. Or perhaps you don't care to be corrected and just lashed out. I'll go with the latter.

Projection. I don't.

What are you afraid of when you feel the need to carry a gun in the public square?

This is just personal crap that's not really argumentative so I'm not going to dress it anymore than to tell you how I'm dismissing it and why.

 

[RF667799]

It doesn't though it actually proves my claim you don't chase someone down for defense. And people who carry guns don't do that because when it happens they write an article about it if it was an everyday thing it wouldn't merit that.

This is just personal crap that's not really argumentative so I'm not going to dress it anymore than to tell you how I'm dismissing it and why.

Yeah...that poster's halo slips quite often.

 

[jaeger19]

I don't think anyone here would accuse me of being anti gun..lol.
However I have become concerned at the people who are now open carrying particularly at political protests that have nothing to do with firearms.
Philosophically I gave no problem with open carry...I do myself.
But in the last few years I have seen people start carrying as a means of intimidation.
And that's bad for us gun owners. I gave seen armed people at demonstrations get into confrontations..yelling and screaming..stepping into people's personal spaces..and frankly I think it's because they have a firearm.
I doubt they would do the same thing unarmed.
My son has been confronted by these folks..( ironically he carries concealed).
And he's told me.." dad..they want to start fights with you but you know the minute you start kicking their butt..they are going to shoot you claiming self defense. "..

 

[zsu2357]

Sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about. "My civil war"??

No, I don't realize how many Dems own guns. Nor how many Pubs. I'm not really very political.

If LE and the military take the sidelines in a civil wary, nothing much will matter to Americans except trying to stay warm and fed, I think.

This must be about the time I got my ass kicked by Covid and a couple different types of pneumonia didn't know if I was coming or going.