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Ask a Gen-X'er

Do you care about DeSantis culture war

  • I care about abortion, social justice, LGBTQ+ and CRT. These are likely issues that make me vote.

    Votes: 9 81.8%

  • These are not really issues that will swing my vote for DeSantis.

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • I'd be more likely to vote for DeSantis if he took the right position on issues Gen-X cares about.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Total voters
    11
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I figure since Ron DeSantis is a gen-x politician I'd ask my fellow gen-x'ers if they care for his politics. Mainly he seems to be focused on Boomer issues of fighting a culture war with the left.

Personally these are not issues that make it more likely I'll vote for DeSantis or anyone else. I feel he's just pandering to Boomers for issue conservatives of that age care about. So to me it doesn't matter that DeSantis is of my generation, he doesn't seem to care about issues that would swing my vote in his favor if he took the right positions.

Gen-X'ers only please!
 
Can we wait till he starts campaigning before deciding if we like his plan for the future or not?

There's no rush in deciding who to support despite the powers that be trying to tell you to dig in with support for their candidate.
 
samiam5211 said:
I care about those issues, but the fact that i care about them is why i'd never vote for DeSantis.
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Well, that's one for the anti-DeSantis camp, most of this stuff Gen-Xer's likely considered settled law before this latest wave of Boomer politics. That's why I say I don't really care, nothing is going to make woman not get abortions when they feel they need it. Nothing is going to put the gays back in the closet or the blacks to the back of the bus, and we have to accept the history of America's racist past and how that still effects our government today.
 
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I'd vote republican regardless, since I'm above the median income. However, DeSantis's race neutral / anti-CRT platform is the icing on the cake for me.
 
Rickeroo said:
I'd vote republican regardless, since I'm above the median income. However, DeSantis's race neutral / anti-CRT platform is the icing on the cake for me.
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How exactly can DeSantis be race neutral if he opposes CRT? Do you not see the obvious contradiction in that statement?

Democrats have always been better for the economy.


The Party That’s Actually Best for the Economy​


Many analyses look at which party is best for the economy. A study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found that Democratic presidents since World War II have performed much better than Republicans. On average, Democratic presidents grew the economy by 4.4% each year versus 2.5% for Republicans.4




A study by Princeton University economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson found that the economy performs better when the president is a Democrat. They report that “by many measures, the performance gap is startlingly large.” Between Truman and Obama, growth was 1.8% higher under Democrats than Republicans.5




A Hudson Institute study found that the six years with the best growth were evenly split between Republican and Democrat presidents.6




Most of these evaluations measure growth during the president’s term in office. But no president has control over the growth added during his first year. The budget for that fiscal year was already set by the previous president, so it's helpful to compare the gross domestic product (GDP) at the end of the president’s last budget to the end of their predecessor’s last budget.
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Democrat or Republican: Which Political Party Has Grown the Economy More?

Democrats and Republicans have different economic views and different ideas about what's best for growth. Which party has boosted the economy more?
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Lisa said:
How exactly can DeSantis be race neural if he opposes CRT? Do you not see the obvious contradiction in that statement?

Democrats have always been better for the economy.
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Well-written CRT bans include terminology like no public school is to link traits to race, and vice versa. These traits/labels/stereotypes are primarily oppressed/oppressor and privileged/non-privileged. The democrats don't believe in race neutrality, which is one of the main reasons I don't vote for them. I find race labels to be repulsive, especially when reinforced by government.

Statistically, those over the median income vote republican. I consider democrats to look at my higher than average success as being obtained unfairly, siphoning opportunity from the poor - I'm richer because they are poorer. In other words, I'm blamed for the poor's problems.
 
I'm a Gen-Xer who is not swayed by DeSantis at all. His culture war nonsense is what he's chosen to lead with, and I don't agree with him on any of it. I am not in the camp of people who seek to suppress representation or inclusion, so that makes him unpalatable. He also doesn't strike me as a good negotiator or diplomat, and instead seems like a "my way, or the highway" types who tend to struggle in diplomacy here and abroad.
 
Rickeroo said:
Well-written CRT bans include terminology like no public school is to link traits to race, and vice versa. These traits/labels/stereotypes are primarily oppressed/oppressor and privileged/non-privileged. The democrats don't believe in race neutrality, which is one of the main reasons I don't vote for them. I find race labels to be repulsive, especially when reinforced by government.

Statistically, those over the median income vote republican. I consider democrats to look at my higher than average success as being obtained unfairly, siphoning opportunity from the poor - I'm richer because they are poorer. In other words, I'm blamed for the poor's problems.
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Then I'm atypical and proudly so. .
 
Rickeroo said:
I'd vote republican regardless, since I'm above the median income. However, DeSantis's race neutral / anti-CRT platform is the icing on the cake for me.
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How to tell us you're below the median income without telling us you're below the median income. :rolleyes:
 
Gen Xer.
DeCrappis is almost as utterly laughable as Crooked donnietrump. Or...it would be "laughable" if it weren't so frightening and concerning.

They have culture wars because they have nothing appealing in the way of governing. Its all about the wealthy, so they use culture wars to glean votes from empty headed morons.

"Herpidee derp, murderin' babies and drag shows....DERP!!!"

Sweet ****ing christ how are people here so dumb?
 
samiam5211 said:
I'm above the median income. I just care about more than my money.
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I’m well above median income and I’m towards the end of Gen X and I agree.

I will be voting Biden or whomever the DNC candidate is if for some reason he cannot run.

You couldn’t pay me to vote for DeFascist or Trump.
 
Rickeroo said:
Statistically, those over the median income vote republican. I consider democrats to look at my higher than average success as being obtained unfairly, siphoning opportunity from the poor - I'm richer because they are poorer. In other words, I'm blamed for the poor's problems.
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Nah, I just look at it as though you don’t know what you’re talking about.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Gen-X here. Until the Republican Party purges the crazy, I will not vote for another Republican at any level of government above municipal.
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I had to look up what Gen-X means:

Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the Western Post–World War II baby boom and before the Millennials. Commentators typically use birth years ranging from the mid-1960s to the early 1980s.

Many sources describe Generation X as people born between the years 1965 to 1979 (or 1980 in some references).[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

Examples of Gen Xers include Chris Pratt, Billy Corgan, Ben Stiller, Scott Weiland, Will Smith, Adam Sandler, Orlando Bloom, Kurt Cobain, Claire Danes, Brooke Shields, Sarah Jessica Parker, and Isla Fisher.
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simple.wikipedia.org

Generation X - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Is that the right definition?
Or how would you explain it?
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
How to tell us you're below the median income without telling us you're below the median income. :rolleyes:
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While my personal income is questionable, what's for certain is that statistically those above the median income lean republican - this information is readily available.

Nomad4Ever said:
Why would you admit that was your motivation?
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Interesting question! I'm not sure exactly where your question comes from - it infers that I should have professed republican support for some other reason other than I'm higher income. I'll certainly flesh out my income / net worth based reasoning for voting non-democrat since 1992 in great detail, but I'm interested in why you infer that I shouldn't have admitted personal economic success as part of my reasoning.
 
Rickeroo said:
Interesting question! I'm not sure exactly where your question comes from - it infers that I should have professed republican support for some other reason other than I'm higher income. I'll certainly flesh out my income / net worth based reasoning for voting non-democrat since 1992 in great detail, but I'm interested in why you infer that I shouldn't have admitted personal economic success as part of my reasoning.
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It affirms some of the worst stereotypes about Republican voters? That they are rich and self interested and don't care about broader societal well being or poor people?
 
Rickeroo said:
Interesting question! I'm not sure exactly where your question comes from - it infers that I should have professed republican support for some other reason other than I'm higher income. I'll certainly flesh out my income / net worth based reasoning for voting non-democrat since 1992 in great detail, but I'm interested in why you infer that I shouldn't have admitted personal economic success as part of my reasoning.
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Probably because GOP policies have had little to do with your personal economic condition.
 
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