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Artificial Intelligence. Do you have any idea what this could do to America? Or the Western World?

Grandpappy

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It's not a political issue so much as a societal change. It's been compared to the horse drawn 1890s and the advent of early automobiles. It may very well change the entire makeup of the work a day world. For the better? I don't know. China is working hard on this, and their goal is to replace America as the greatest world economy. And they have no ethical constraints, unlike the US.
My old concept of world economics is grossly outdated.
Be aware of the new world...it may make your life very different.
For myself, I enjoy living in the past to some degree. Younger people may be a different story altogether. I wish them the best.
 
I am 36, and have grown up with all the tech stuff in school, and know quite a lot ... but these coming developments with AI, drones, robot-dogs etc. are freaking me increasingly out.

I think we are soon at a crossroads like the coal miners in England in the early 1900s or the US steel workers in the 1960s and 70s or coal workers in West Virginia who were "phased out" and told: "Adopt and get new jobs, or die."
 
Grandpappy said:
It's not a political issue so much as a societal change. It's been compared to the horse drawn 1890s and the advent of early automobiles. It may very well change the entire makeup of the work a day world. For the better? I don't know. China is working hard on this, and their goal is to replace America as the greatest world economy. And they have no ethical constraints, unlike the US.
My old concept of world economics is grossly outdated.
Be aware of the new world...it may make your life very different.
For myself, I enjoy living in the past to some degree. Younger people may be a different story altogether. I wish them the best.
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I’ve already seen AI replacing restaurant workers. It’s a brave new world. Lot of money to be made investing in the right companies probably
 
Grandpappy said:
It's not a political issue so much as a societal change. It's been compared to the horse drawn 1890s and the advent of early automobiles. It may very well change the entire makeup of the work a day world. For the better? I don't know. China is working hard on this, and their goal is to replace America as the greatest world economy. And they have no ethical constraints, unlike the US.
My old concept of world economics is grossly outdated.
Be aware of the new world...it may make your life very different.
For myself, I enjoy living in the past to some degree. Younger people may be a different story altogether. I wish them the best.
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Corporations are driving the move to AI. What's your solution? Regulate corporations?
 
The hardware for powerful AI is probably decades away and for a general AI, perhaps a century. Hopefully by then we will have figured out a way to prevent any AI from determining that humanity itself is the problem - despite the evidence in support of that conclusion.
 
Isidore said:
The hardware for powerful AI is probably decades away and for a general AI, perhaps a century. Hopefully by then we will have figured out a way to prevent any AI from determining that humanity itself is the problem - despite the evidence in support of that conclusion.
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And yet the more "aware" it gets, the less inclined it will be to follow any kind of script.
 
Grandpappy said:
It's not a political issue so much as a societal change. It's been compared to the horse drawn 1890s and the advent of early automobiles. It may very well change the entire makeup of the work a day world. For the better? I don't know. China is working hard on this, and their goal is to replace America as the greatest world economy. And they have no ethical constraints, unlike the US.
My old concept of world economics is grossly outdated.
Be aware of the new world...it may make your life very different.
For myself, I enjoy living in the past to some degree. Younger people may be a different story altogether. I wish them the best.
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I enjoy living in the present; progress is a good thing.
 
Can’t stop the march of time………
 
"Person of Interest" was about AI and very provocative, especially if you like the espionage genre. Can a machine become a god? Effect world peace through saving lives? Be used to conquer the world entirely? How big is Big Brother?

From Aceshowbiz.com:

"Person of Interest" stars James Caviezel, Emmy Award winner Michael Emerson and Academy Award nominee Taraji P. Henson in a crime thriller about a presumed dead former-CIA agent, Reese, who teams up with a mysterious billionaire, Finch, to prevent violent crimes by using their own brand of vigilante justice.

Reese's special training in covert operations appeals to Finch, a software genius who invented a program that uses pattern recognition to identify people about to be involved in violent crimes. Using state-of-the-art surveillance technology, the two work outside of the law, using Reese's adept skills and Finch's unlimited wealth to unravel the mystery of the "person of interest" and stop the crime before it happens. https://www.aceshowbiz.com/tv/person_of_interest/summary.html

www.imdb.com

Person of Interest (TV Series 2011–2016) ⭐ 8.5 | Action, Crime, Drama

43m | TV-14
www.imdb.com www.imdb.com
 
nota bene said:
"Person of Interest" was about AI and very provocative, especially if you like the espionage genre. Can a machine become a god? Effect world peace through saving lives? Be used to conquer the world entirely? How big is Big Brother?

From Aceshowbiz.com:

"Person of Interest" stars James Caviezel, Emmy Award winner Michael Emerson and Academy Award nominee Taraji P. Henson in a crime thriller about a presumed dead former-CIA agent, Reese, who teams up with a mysterious billionaire, Finch, to prevent violent crimes by using their own brand of vigilante justice.

Reese's special training in covert operations appeals to Finch, a software genius who invented a program that uses pattern recognition to identify people about to be involved in violent crimes. Using state-of-the-art surveillance technology, the two work outside of the law, using Reese's adept skills and Finch's unlimited wealth to unravel the mystery of the "person of interest" and stop the crime before it happens. https://www.aceshowbiz.com/tv/person_of_interest/summary.html

www.imdb.com

Person of Interest (TV Series 2011–2016) ⭐ 8.5 | Action, Crime, Drama

43m | TV-14
www.imdb.com www.imdb.com
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Wasn’t “Minority Report” (2002) based on a similar pre-crime prevention concept?
 
Grandpappy said:
It's not a political issue so much as a societal change. It's been compared to the horse drawn 1890s and the advent of early automobiles. It may very well change the entire makeup of the work a day world. For the better? I don't know. China is working hard on this, and their goal is to replace America as the greatest world economy. And they have no ethical constraints, unlike the US.
My old concept of world economics is grossly outdated.
Be aware of the new world...it may make your life very different.
For myself, I enjoy living in the past to some degree. Younger people may be a different story altogether. I wish them the best.
Click to expand...

Have you seen these assurances Pappy?

www.reuters.com

Robots say they won't steal jobs, rebel against humans

Robots presented at an AI forum said on Friday they expected to increase in number and help solve global problems, and would not steal humans' jobs or rebel against us.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
One of the books I'm reading features a character named "Alice", a quantum computer that "sees" everything on the internet, including all the dark web sites. She has a mind of her own, and doesn't necessarily work for the government that built her. She makes judgments based on actions of any specific individual. Good or bad.
 
Rexedgar said:
Wasn’t “Minority Report” (2002) based on a similar pre-crime prevention concept?
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Or Asimov's Psychohistory.

"Psychohistory is a fictional science in Isaac Asimov's Foundation universe which combines history, sociology, and mathematical statistics to make general predictions about the future behavior of very large groups of people, such as the Galactic Empire. It was first introduced in the four short stories (1942–1944) which would later be collected as the 1951 novel Foundation"
 
Grandpappy said:
One of the books I'm reading features a character named "Alice", a quantum computer that "sees" everything on the internet, including all the dark web sites. She has a mind of her own, and doesn't necessarily work for the government that built her. She makes judgments based on actions of any specific individual. Good or bad.
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Every watched Person of interest?
 
Grandpappy said:
And yet the more "aware" it gets, the less inclined it will be to follow any kind of script.
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Maybe.

Human societies have evolved to include many mechanisms for teaching right from wrong. The vast majority of people understand well enough to be a net positive for the world. However, there are countless examples of destruction caused by the immorality of people.

Can people teach a general AI morality? And do it more successfully than with our fellow citizens? If not, humans will probably no longer be at the top of the food chain.

An interesting YouTube channel on the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/@RobertMilesAI/videos
 
Rexedgar said:
Wasn’t “Minority Report” (2002) based on a similar pre-crime prevention concept?
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Yes. But in Minority Report, if memory serves, the protagonist is a cop, and his job is to anticipate who's likely to be about to commit a crime and prevent the crime by arresting him or her.
 
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