Around 10,000 more COVID deaths in the last 7 days. When is enough, enough?

[The Hairy Fiddler]

i get so tired of having to post this same stuff over and over and over...

	COVID	Population	Population
	Deaths	(million)	Density
Sweden	14,956	10.35	25
Norway	894	5.3	15
Finland	1,139	5.5	18

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

Caughtin The...and it wasn't just Finland and Norway showing the damning results caused by Sweden's lunacy. The Netherland, Greenland and other countries demonstrated similar results proving how horrible Aweden's herd immunity approach backfired. People that think Sweden did the correct thing are pathetic morons, putting it mildly.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

As of 12 hours ago Sweden had 1.17 million cases and 14,993 deaths - you have different numbers than that?

Swden has a high vaccination rate. Last year there were no vaccinations. As I said over and over again. their per capita death rate in 2020 was 12 times higher than their neighboring countries. what exactly is so hard to understand here?

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

True.

But it is irrelevant to my point.

Lots of people here (and in the world) are saying that lockdowns ARE the best way to handle Covid-19.
100%...full stop.

The fact that many countries that did lockdown did far worse than Sweden on Covid-19 death rates proves conclusively that lockdowns are not automatically more effective at lowering Covid-19 death rates.

No a lot of people are NOT saying that herd immunity like Sweden did was the right thing to do. Only the radical right wing fringe says shit like that. Sweden's approach was down right criminal and the Swedish people are pissed off beyond belief at the lack of leadership there. quit spreading bullshit.

 

[MaryP]

How many of these deaths are from the vaccinated? It’s 2k. So 20% were vaccinated

Yup. 75% of us have had at least one shot. When 100% of us have besn vaccinated, ALL the deaths will be vaccinated people.
But you know what? There won't be 10,000 of them a week. There will be a lot less. It could have been 2,000, not 10,000 last week. And a whole lot less people suffering in the hospital. Wouldn't that be better?

 

[VySky]

Yup. 75% of us have had at least one shot. When 100% of us have besn vaccinated, ALL the deaths will be vaccinated people.
But you know what? There won't be 10,000 of them a week. There will be a lot less. It could have been 2,000, not 10,000 last week. And a whole lot less people suffering in the hospital. Wouldn't that be better?

IDK. Next?

 

[MaryP]

IDK. Next?

More death and suffering might be better?

 

[VySky]

More death and suffering might be better?

Acceptable. More is relative. Drama stuff

 

[screenwriter]

Yup. 75% of us have had at least one shot. When 100% of us have besn vaccinated, ALL the deaths will be vaccinated people.
But you know what? There won't be 10,000 of them a week. There will be a lot less. It could have been 2,000, not 10,000 last week. And a whole lot less people suffering in the hospital. Wouldn't that be better?

Swden has a high vaccination rate. Last year there were no vaccinations. As I said over and over again. their per capita death rate in 2020 was 12 times higher than their neighboring countries. what exactly is so hard to understand here?

That's a "yes" then - you have different numbers.

 

[The Work Outing]

No a lot of people are NOT saying that herd immunity like Sweden did was the right thing to do. Only the radical right wing fringe says shit like that. Sweden's approach was down right criminal and the Swedish people are pissed off beyond belief at the lack of leadership there. quit spreading bullshit.

Clearly you did not even read my post.
I said NOTHING about people talking about herd immunity as the right thing to do.
Clearly, you are just here to spread ad hominem's and strawman and act like a troll.
I have no time for people like that.
Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[The Work Outing]

No a lot of people are NOT saying that herd immunity like Sweden did was the right thing to do. Only the radical right wing fringe says shit like that. Sweden's approach was down right criminal and the Swedish people are pissed off beyond belief at the lack of leadership there. quit spreading bullshit.

And BTW - you clearly have no idea what you are speaking of.

Elon Musk on Lockdowns: ‘Sweden Was Right’

The results of Sweden’s strategy become clearer with every passing week. Now, Tesla founder Elon Musk is weighing in.

fee.org

And you clearly either don't know or - more likely, IMO - don't care that lockdowns probably killed more people than they saved.

The Data Shows Lockdowns End More Lives Than They Save

Now that the 2020 figures have been properly tallied, there is still no convincing evidence that strict lockdowns reduced the death toll from COVID-19. But one effect is clear: more deaths from other causes, especially among the young and middle-aged, minorities and the less affluent. The best...

www.manhattan-institute.org

Wow...your post was almost completely erroneous and silly.
It will be my pleasure to ignore you from now on.

Bye now.

 

[it's just me]

^^^
Listen to the Trumpist try to extend the pandemic as long as possible, not caring (unless it's worse than merely not caring) who he gets killed in the process.

Tell that to your president, who has now killed more people than you say Trump did in less time.

 

[The Work Outing]

More death and suffering might be better?

It's strange how people like you are SO bent out of shape about Covid-19 and trying to force everyone to do what you say.

Yet none of you seem to care that even more people died of TB since 2018 than Covid-19.

In 2018, '19 and '20 alone?
TB killed 4.8 million people worldwide.

WHO: Tuberculosis is the world’s deadliest infectious disease | DW | 24.03.2020​

As the coronavirus death toll mounts, global health authorities are reminding that tuberculosis is deadliest infectious disease in the world. Over a million deaths are reported every year.
www.dw.com

Deaths from TB​

Number of deaths, that is mortality from TB for children, adults and in each "high burden" country. Figures for both HIV positive and HIV negative people.

tbfacts.org

Makes one think that the only reason you people care about one and not the other is that the politicians and the MSM tricked you into caring more about one than the other.

 

[MaryP]

It's strange how people like you are SO bent out of shape about Covid-19 and trying to force everyone to do what you say.

Yet none of you seem to care that even more people died of TB since 2018 than Covid-19.

In 2018, '19 and '20 alone?
TB killed 4.8 million people worldwide.

WHO: Tuberculosis is the world’s deadliest infectious disease | DW | 24.03.2020​

As the coronavirus death toll mounts, global health authorities are reminding that tuberculosis is deadliest infectious disease in the world. Over a million deaths are reported every year.
www.dw.com

Deaths from TB​

Number of deaths, that is mortality from TB for children, adults and in each "high burden" country. Figures for both HIV positive and HIV negative people.

tbfacts.org

Makes one think that the only reason you people care about one and not the other is that the politicians and the MSM tricked you into caring more about one than the other.

Whaddabout TB?

You're new here. Hope you're vaxxed. If not, hope you will be.

 

[The Work Outing]

Whaddabout TB?

You're new here. Hope you're vaxxed. If not, hope you will be.

You want to answer the question or not?

If not?

Your opinion otherwise means nothing to me.

 

[Fledermaus]

Clearly you did not even read my post.
I said NOTHING about people talking about herd immunity as the right thing to do.
Clearly, you are just here to spread ad hominem's and strawman and act like a troll.
I have no time for people like that.
Welcome to my ignore list.

More accusations of trolling...

 

[Fledermaus]

Tell that to your president, who has now killed more people than you say Trump did in less time.

Biden killed someone?

Pony up the details.

 

[Threegoofs]

You want to answer the question or not?

If not?

Your opinion otherwise means nothing to me.

You realize TB has killed less people in three years than COVID has killed in one, right?

You recognize that TB is not a disease you need to be concerned about in the US or other developed nations, right?

Why do I have a feeling the first time you ever read about TB was this article, which you probably got from a wingnut website?

 

[The Work Outing]

You realize TB has killed less people in three years than COVID has killed in one, right?

You recognize that TB is not a disease you need to be concerned about in the US or other developed nations, right?

Why do I have a feeling the first time you ever read about TB was this article, which you probably got from a wingnut website?

Either answer my statement/question or I do not answer yours.

 

[CaughtInThe]

You want to answer the question or not?

If not?

Your opinion otherwise means nothing to me.

how many things are you vaccinated against?

 

[RAMOSS]

And your problem is that you are assuming that I am saying that no lockdowns are better than lockdowns.
I don't care about that.

Lockdowns are against the Constitution.

Plus, there was lots of data to indicate that had they gone on longer?
That they might have ended up killing FAR more people than they could possibly have 'saved'.

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Plus the global depression they caused.
Plus all the extra, domestic violence victims and suicides.

That means they were VERY wrong.

Now, with all of that?
The ONLY way they are even remotely tolerable is if there is 100% proof that they were effective.
But no such proof exists.

So...that sews it.
The lockdowns were a mistake.
They caused GIGANTIC hardship and caused many deaths.
Yet there is NO unbiased, factual proof that they saved as many lives as they 'took'.

That is my point.

Ah. yo uare misreading the unicif paper. It's 'in developing countries'. As far as I can see, Europe and the USA are not develpping countries.

Care to fail more?

 

[RAMOSS]

And BTW - you clearly have no idea what you are speaking of.

Elon Musk on Lockdowns: ‘Sweden Was Right’

The results of Sweden’s strategy become clearer with every passing week. Now, Tesla founder Elon Musk is weighing in.

fee.org

And you clearly either don't know or - more likely, IMO - don't care that lockdowns probably killed more people than they saved.

The Data Shows Lockdowns End More Lives Than They Save

Now that the 2020 figures have been properly tallied, there is still no convincing evidence that strict lockdowns reduced the death toll from COVID-19. But one effect is clear: more deaths from other causes, especially among the young and middle-aged, minorities and the less affluent. The best...

www.manhattan-institute.org

Wow...your post was almost completely erroneous and silly.
It will be my pleasure to ignore you from now on.

Bye now.

You really should vet your sources. Just because some group calls itself an 'instittute' doesn't mean they are credible. And, when it comes to Elon Musk, who give a damn?

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[The Work Outing]

Ah. yo uare misreading the unicif paper. It's 'in developing countries'. As far as I can see, Europe and the USA are not develpping countries.

Care to fail more?

Care to learn reading coprehension?

I never said they were in America and the EU.
I was talking globally.


Duh.

 

[The Work Outing]

You really should vet your sources. Just because some group calls itself an 'instittute' doesn't mean they are credible. And, when it comes to Elon Musk, who give a damn?

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• Overall, we rate the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research Right Biased based on editorial and policy positions that routinely favor a conservative perspective. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to a lack of transparency with funding, use of poor sources, and a failed fact check.

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You gave a damn or you would not have replied to the post.
Perhaps you should learn what words mean before you used them?

And where is your link to disprove my link?

My guess is you have none.


So far you are 0-2.

Care to make it 0-3?

 

[RAMOSS]

Care to learn reading coprehension?

I never said they were in America and the EU.
I was talking globally.


Duh.

Yet, when you talk 'globally,' you have to look at the specific counties circumstances. You have to be more precise.
Try to fail letss.