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Why the 1918 Flu Pandemic Never Really Ended | HISTORY
After infecting millions of people worldwide, the 1918 flu strain shifted—and then stuck around.www.history.com
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But what’s truly incredible, according to genetic analyses, is that the same novel strain of flu first introduced in 1918 appears to be the direct ancestor of every seasonal and pandemic flu we’ve had over the past century.
“You can still find the genetic traces of the 1918 virus in the seasonal flus that circulate today,” says Taubenberger. “Every single human infection with influenza A in the past 102 years is derived from that one introduction of the 1918 flu.”
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Of course... I'm commenting on the virus in general.The Spanish Flu is not a valid excuse to disobey a valid military order in 2020.
Of course... I'm commenting on the virus in general.
Treatments has little to do with it, this disease simply did not have the mortality rate of the Spanish Influenza.
This can be seen in just looking at the raw numbers between then and now. With a US population of around 105 million, over 675k died from that one. Compare that to the 770k deaths, with a population of just under 330 million today. To have the same mortality, we would have had over 2 million deaths. It has nothing to do with anything other than this disease was simply not as fatal as the last one that caused a global pandemic.
Treatment actually had everything to do with it, the 1918 spanish flu killed mostly through pneumonia, they tried mandating masks, and mandating lockdowns and social distancing, in the end what they found was finding out how to treat pneumonia severely reduced death rates.Treatments has little to do with it, this disease simply did not have the mortality rate of the Spanish Influenza.
And I am not downplaying it at all, nor am I saying we overreacted. But the fact is, that the Spanish Influenza had a greatly higher fatality rate, and treatment and vaccines had nothing to do with that. However, like that disease this one was highly communicable, something the world has not had to deal with in a century. And the proof is in the number of cases, that no matter what was done, it still spread like crazy. Just be thankful that the mortality was significantly lower.
This can be seen in just looking at the raw numbers between then and now. With a US population of around 105 million, over 675k died from that one. Compare that to the 770k deaths, with a population of just under 330 million today. To have the same mortality, we would have had over 2 million deaths. It has nothing to do with anything other than this disease was simply not as fatal as the last one that caused a global pandemic.
For estimated 1.4 million active duty, nearly 50k active army and a hair under 27k marines is actually enough to cripple the us military unless all of those mos fields were easily replaceable.Some info on who many have had at least 1 dose. Article was written Oct 7, 2021
"More than 92% of active-duty troops have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine as service deadlines for getting the jab approach.
But roughly 103,000 service members haven't even gotten their first shot despite deadlines for being fully immunized. That includes roughly 48,600 Army soldiers, 7,000 Navy sailors, 15,500 Air Force airmen and Space Force Guardians, and 26,800 Marines, according to statistics released by the services.
92% of Active-Duty Troops Have Been Vaccinated as Mandatory Deadlines Near
But roughly 103,000 have yet to get their first shot, including 15,500 Air Force and Space Force members who could miss their services' deadline of Nov. 2.www.military.com
Treatment actually had everything to do with it, the 1918 spanish flu killed mostly through pneumonia
Pneumonia caused by the spanish flu is what was mostly killing people though, that is why the death rate plummeted when they discovered how to treat it.Yes, and?
Most pneumonia is not fatal anymore because it is bacteriological based. A strong antibiotic, and it normally clears right up.
But guess what? The Spanish Flue was a virus. And want to know what the most fatal form of pneumonia is to this day?
Viral Pneumonia. And this I know, because that is what killed my fiancée in 1997. Once again, you are failing to really understand the issue, and this is a huge example.
With Viral Pneumonia, there is still not a damned thing that can be done. Give some support to help the body, but all the medication in the world given to the patient means nothing. Their body fights it off on their own, or they die.
So kudos for you for recognizing that most died of pneumonia. But boo for failing to realize that it was not the easily treated bacteriological pneumonia, and how fatal a viral pneumonia actually is.
For estimated 1.4 million active duty, nearly 50k active army and a hair under 27k marines is actually enough to cripple the us military unless all of those mos fields were easily replaceable.
This is one thing people do not think about, the military logistics and command and function are very well integrated, if 100k soldiers were booted out that would severely cripple the military. However at the same time they may just slow roll them being booted as well to either give time to comply or to get others to fill their slots, and filling slots can take time.
Also unknown how many of those were already ets'ing or retiring as well, which would matter on that many soldiers leaving, as ets and retirements are already accounted for ahead of time.
Known diseases usually have vaccines but not always. It has been a decade since I was in afghanistan and they still want me to get a rabies vaccine because rabies was rampant there, I tell the va well if it has not killed me yet I obviously did not get it. This was of course a campaign started around late 2012 because a soldier died of rabies after returning, and rabies was rampant, but they felt vaccines were not important for that, but gave vaccines for smallpox and anthrax which were also common there.What is interesting is if someone was being deployed oversees to a known disease area, they would be required to take certain vaccines.
In the past I don't recall a bunch of soldiers balking at getting the shot.
Lossing 100K all at once would be an impact. Hopefully the military will work through the issue.
Today we can treat numerous types but there are certain types untreatable. Also the most untreatable pneumonia is bacterial known as vap, or ventillator associated pneumonia
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