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and not having a firearm can lead to massive deaths
such as Fort Hood among others
Both tragic situations could have been diverted or avoided completely if they pursued MENTAL HEALTH intervention.
Arizona - in fact - has more legal means than Texas to intervene in this area.
What makes a person like this tick and break?
What are the warning signs?
A mentally imbalanced person is a mentally imbalanced person - whether he as a gun or a toothpick - sooner of later he'll use it (usually on himself) but sometimes on others.
The only true prevention is knowledge - and a damned crystal ball.
Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
you know if some whack job starts busting caps at me or mine I am gonna kill him as fast as I can and maybe a week later start worrying about what caused him to go bezerk, not when he's gunning down people.
I am not a health care professional but I am a highly trained pistol shot
He had the wrong weapon. He should have had a knife handy. A knife doesn't riochet.
I think some of the Barney Fifes here would have gotten so excited they would have been shooting like a sprinkler. This kid knew he didn't need to shoot at someone already on the ground with several wrestling with him. It was pretty obvious.
Not at all, however I do believe arming everyone is complete nuts. I am not anti 2nd Amendment, I believe you have the right to protect yourself. But a 33 round Glock is insane.And being there a minute earlier he could have used that fire arm to shoot the nutjob and it might have only been a couple of people shot. It seems the OP as well as the OP's link are trying to use a story of a gun owner exercising control to fuel some anti-2nd amendment agenda.
Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
I think he's talking about before the individual is actively killing people. But you're gung-ho ness is noted
Not at all, however I do believe arming everyone is complete nuts. I am not anti 2nd Amendment, I believe you have the right to protect yourself. But a 33 round Glock is insane.
Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
you know if some whack job starts busting caps at me or mine I am gonna kill him as fast as I can and maybe a week later start worrying about what caused him to go bezerk, not when he's gunning down people.
I am not a health care professional but I am a highly trained pistol shot
Actually - only MP's and maybe a few others are permitted to carry while in uniform / on duty.
Said individuals cannot be armed by law within the US unless under actual orders to do so - and some branches of the military cannot function armed at all while on US soil.
In the meatime - weapons are safed and stocked in an armory or other such facility.
These tragedies happen, let's face it, because these people used a rapid-fire weapon . . . in which a large amount can be expelled in a short time - before anyone else possibly present with a firearm can respond in kind.
Wouldn't it be better if you didn't have to at all?
yeah that' like saying it would be nice if one didn't have to wear a condom either or buy auto insurance
utopian nonsense
you deal with thatNo one is suggesting its possible to make the world entirely safe, but I don't think its "utopian nonsense" to suggest there could be ways decrease the need and number occurances where individuals have to defend themselves with personal weapons, without decreasing the rights of individuals to own personal weapons. Specifically in this case, was there something leading up to this where this guy could have been found out as the mental case he was and thus eliminate that future threat, in this case occurance, of a shooting.
you deal with that
I will deal with threats in the manner I have been trained
yeah that' like saying it would be nice if one didn't have to wear a condom either or buy auto insurance
utopian nonsense
Ok rambo.:roll:
Tell that to the dead 6 people - would it have been nonsense to them if this insane ****er was where he belonged? IN A facility?
It's not nonsense if it might solve a problem or save a life.
Wouldn't they prefer to be alive right now?
Isn't it better to be a living optimist than a dead pessimist.
Obviously I don't oppose PROTECTING yourself or being adequately armed or trained to handle said situations - I think it's very important, in fact. But at the same time so is PREVENTION and INTERVENTION altogether.
you can demand better healthcare for nuts
good luck with trusting your safety to that
People being armed and trained is possible
reforming mental health care-good luck with that
privacy concerns will always be a major obstacle
you can demand better healthcare for nuts
good luck with trusting your safety to that
How many masss shooting occur in gun free zones? I think you're forgetting the deterence factor. Do these nutjobs walk into a biker bar and shoot the place up? What about a police station? Or, anywhere else where the victims are likely to be armed and ready to shoot back?
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