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You still don't get it...
They can make it up as they go.....
Public inebriation, whatever.....:roll:
Please, 'charges not filed pending investigation'.....:roll:
You are being intentionally obtuse because you have lost this debate.
On another subject..... I could have sworn Tucker said to knock off the personal attacks..... did you miss that?
How about vagrantcy?......Please, investigation of what?
I have........ got stopped for not signaling in time and I had forgotten to take my wallet with me. It happens all of the time, that's why they have that law on the books in every State.
That's because you aren't allowed TO DRIVE without a driver's license and proof of insurance.
But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the police WALKING UP TO A PERSON ON THE STREET AND DEMANDING TO SEE IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVES THAT THEY ARE A U.S. CITIZEN. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.
Cheese and rice. :roll::doh:roll::doh
I'm suggesting that law enforcement officers have a primary responsibility to FOLLOW THE LAW, including upholding the bill of rights. Every police protocol in every department I've ever worked with/for has been focused around that goal. Jesus Christ, do you want to live in a country where police routinely violate the protections of the bill of rights? Holy ****.
This conversation is ****ing blowing my mind. An alleged conservative wishes to abdicate the fundamental protections of the bill of rights, and is encouraging a police department that is doing this? CRAZY ****.
So they could have written me a ticket (they did when they released me) and sent me on my way (they held for 18 hours until the prints came back and no wants or warrants were found).
Give it up, Joe isn't doing anything illegal or immoral, he just pisses you off because he is cleaning up what the politicians don't have the guts to fix.
No they do not. If you get stopped without ID on you, the most that's going to happen is they will ask for your name and DOB, state your ID was issued, and maybe your social...then they will call it in and let you go when it comes back cleared.
Wake up, you already do...
Subject to the disgression of your local LEO......
Give it up, Joe isn't doing anything illegal or immoral, he just pisses you off because he is cleaning up what the politicians don't have the guts to fix.
What happens when that info doesn't check out?....:roll:
What happens when that info doesn't check out?....:roll:
And you approve of fundamental violations of the bill of rights by local law enforcement? I call bull****.
Or is it that you don't care, because the people involved are brown?
No they do not. If you get stopped without ID on you, the most that's going to happen is they will ask for your name and DOB, state your ID was issued, and maybe your social...then they will call it in and let you go when it comes back cleared.
And of course they will stay right there on the side of the road for 3 days while that info is being checked. :roll:
They could have, it's largely officer discretion. In most jurisdictions, an officer is not going to hold you for driving without a license. I suspect you were doing more than that. If not, you have reasonable cause to speak to an attorney as that was an inappropriate response by the officer involved.
Nothing to speak to an attorney about..... they were totally within the laws of ever State in the Union.
And of course they will stay right there on the side of the road for 3 days while that info is being checked. :roll:
Uh, Joe is a politician. Sheriff in Maricopa county is an elected official. :doh
What happens when that info doesn't check out?....:roll:
Generally speaking, if it is only driving without a license, you'll be cited and released. They may impound your vehicle and require someone to come and get you because you are driving illegally. But you typically are not going to be thrown in a jail cell because you can't cough up government I.D. THAT IS NOT A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.
And you can't even be asked for ID unless you're suspected of being involved in some kind of illegal act.
And he keeps getting elected, by large margins.
Thanx for playing.
And he keeps getting elected, by large margins.
Thanx for playing.
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