Arizona Residents: Are you okay will Biden/Harris allowing drug runners easy access to your border?

[VySky]

Hmmmm

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And a year earlier Schummer made this bill D.O.A.

Shown Here:​

Introduced in House (05/02/2023)​

Secure the Border Act of 2023
This bill addresses issues regarding immigration and border security, including by imposing limits to asylum eligibility.
For example, the bill

• requires the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to resume activities to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border;
• provides statutory authorization for Operation Stonegarden, which provides grants to law enforcement agencies for certain border security operations;
• prohibits DHS from processing the entry of non-U.S. nationals (aliens under federal law) arriving between ports of entry;
• limits asylum eligibility to non-U.S. nationals who arrive in the United States at a port of entry;
• authorizes the removal of a non-U.S. national to a country other than that individual's country of nationality or last lawful habitual residence, whereas currently this type of removal may only be to a country that has an agreement with the United States for such removal;
• expands the types of crimes that may make an individual ineligible for asylum, such as a conviction for driving while intoxicated causing another person's serious bodily injury or death;
• authorizes DHS to suspend the introduction of certain non-U.S. nationals at an international border if DHS determines that the suspension is necessary to achieve operational control of that border;
• prohibits states from imposing licensing requirements on immigration detention facilities used to detain minors;
• authorizes immigration officers to permit an unaccompanied alien child to withdraw their application for admission into the United States even if the child is unable to make an independent decision to withdraw the application;
• imposes additional penalties for overstaying a visa; and
• requires DHS to create an electronic employment eligibility confirmation system modeled after the E-Verify system and requires all employers to use the system.

https://www.congress.gov/​

 

[ColdHardTruth]

This is absolute bullshit.

Nothing more than right-wing propaganda.

Absolutely shameful.

 

[SavannahMann]

LOL Most drugs from Mexico come in at border crossings by American smugglers.

Who is sneaking fentanyl across the southern border? Hint: It's not the migrants​

Prosecutors and defense lawyers say Haley's story is typical; the vast majority of illicit fentanyl — close to 90% — is seized at official border crossings. Immigration authorities say nearly all of that is smuggled by people who are legally authorized to cross the border, and more than half by U.S. citizens like Haley. Virtually none is seized from migrants seeking asylum.

Hey. No fair. You know you can’t use facts or truth to discuss Trump Fanboy doomsday claims. I haven’t read past your post. But the response will be that A) MSM lies. B) Government lies when they disagree with Trump. C) You are awful for daring to post such information in response to a lunatic in the video.

Everyone who isn’t a Fanboy knows the truth. Only the fanboys believe the claptrap that they spread. And even when it is demonstrated, they’ll still rant and rail against minorities.

 

[Hamish Howl]

We're fine. Mind your own business.

 

[Mycroft]

The facts are no President in the last 70 years or more has ever closed the border to all forms of illegal crossings.

The fact is, no President in the last 70 years or more has ever left the border as wide open to all forms of illegal crossings as the current administration.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The fact is, no President in the last 70 years or more has ever left the border as wide open to all forms of illegal crossings as the current administration.

Okay, let's see the stats.

 

[Mycroft]

Okay, let's see the stats.

The stats? How about more than 10 million illegal aliens allowed to enter the US in less than four years?

 

[Hamish Howl]

The stats? How about more than 10 million illegal aliens allowed to enter the US in less than four years?

10 million unique individuals, or several million who made multiple crossings?

Because here, the illegals go home for the winter.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

The stats? How about more than 10 million illegal aliens allowed to enter the US in less than four years?

considering that over 12 million Americans died in that period......

 

[Mycroft]

10 million unique individuals, or several million who made multiple crossings?

Because here, the illegals go home for the winter.

Irrelevant.

It's still more than any other President.

 

[Mycroft]

considering that over 12 million Americans died in that period......

Irrelevant.

It's still more than any other President.

 

[switt]

Irrelevant.

It's still more than any other President.

I think you're repeating yourself

 

[Mycroft]

I think you're repeating yourself

shrug...

The same response applies to multiple nonsense posts.

 

[SavannahMann]

The fact is, no President in the last 70 years or more has ever left the border as wide open to all forms of illegal crossings as the current administration.

That is not true. In fact. We have a report coming out next week that shows that Trump let five times as many illegals and ten times the drugs including fentanyl into the country in one year than Biden did in his entire term to date. It’s a comprehensive report. A well researched and very complete report.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Here are the facts...

The stats? How about more than 10 million illegal aliens allowed to enter the US in less than four years?

The figures used by Haley, DeSantis and Cotton — 8 million or 10 million — are totals of all migrant encounters at the border plus gotaways, and, in Cotton’s case, encounters at the northern border, coastal borders and airports. Cotton’s press secretary, Patrick McCann, told us that those figures showed the senator was correct to say that number “crossed into the country.” But these claims ignore that DHS statistics show 2.8 million of the encounters at the southern border alone resulted in a removal or expulsion directly from CBP custody, and all of the rest of the migrants encountered are not simply released.

Most of those removals – nearly 2.5 million — were immediate expulsions under Title 42.

Total DHS repatriations through October amounted to 3.7 million, a figure that includes the 2.8 million removals directly from CBP, as well as removals by ICE. CBP operates at the border – at ports of entry and between them — while ICE “is responsible for interior enforcement and for detention and removal operations,” DHS explains.

“The majority of all individuals encountered at the southwest border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or expelled,” a DHS official told us. The total DHS repatriations of 3.7 million would support that. The figure is 57% of the 6.5 million total encounters. The one caveat is that the total repatriations could include some migrants who were apprehended crossing the border some time ago and later were arrested and removed by ICE.

We’ll explain what happens when migrants arrive at the border and provide more information on these statistics.

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million...

www.factcheck.org

It's still more than any other President.

That is a comment on central american socio-economic conditions, post covid.

Irrelevant.

maybe for you, but if you are concerned about usa declining birth rates, an aging out population, having a mostly adult work force showing up willing to work when we need a lot of housing construction, nursing.....

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I'll repeat, @ 3 Million die in the usa each year, we are below birth replacement levels.

 

[Mycroft]

The figures used by Haley, DeSantis and Cotton — 8 million or 10 million — are totals of all migrant encounters at the border plus gotaways, and, in Cotton’s case, encounters at the northern border, coastal borders and airports. Cotton’s press secretary, Patrick McCann, told us that those figures showed the senator was correct to say that number “crossed into the country.” But these claims ignore that DHS statistics show 2.8 million of the encounters at the southern border alone resulted in a removal or expulsion directly from CBP custody, and all of the rest of the migrants encountered are not simply released.

Most of those removals – nearly 2.5 million — were immediate expulsions under Title 42.

Total DHS repatriations through October amounted to 3.7 million, a figure that includes the 2.8 million removals directly from CBP, as well as removals by ICE. CBP operates at the border – at ports of entry and between them — while ICE “is responsible for interior enforcement and for detention and removal operations,” DHS explains.

“The majority of all individuals encountered at the southwest border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or expelled,” a DHS official told us. The total DHS repatriations of 3.7 million would support that. The figure is 57% of the 6.5 million total encounters. The one caveat is that the total repatriations could include some migrants who were apprehended crossing the border some time ago and later were arrested and removed by ICE.

We’ll explain what happens when migrants arrive at the border and provide more information on these statistics.

It doesn't matter what ultimately happens to those 10 million illegal aliens. We are talking about the wide open border. We are talking about the fact that 10 million were allowed to just walk across our border and into our country.

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million...

www.factcheck.org

That is a comment on central american socio-economic conditions, post covid.

That still doesn't change the fact that I presented to you.

maybe for you, but if you are concerned about usa declining birth rates, an aging out population, having a mostly adult work force showing up willing to work when we need a lot of housing construction, nursing.....

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I'll repeat, @ 3 Million die in the usa each year, we are below birth replacement levels.

Again...irrelevant.

I made a statement of fact and you are trying to justify the fact by making excuses for the current administration instead of admitting that the fact is true.

 

[OlNate]

It doesn't matter what ultimately happens to those 10 million illegal aliens. We are talking about the wide open border. We are talking about the fact that 10 million were allowed to just walk across our border and into our country.


That still doesn't change the fact that I presented to you


Again...irrelevant.

I made a statement of fact and you are trying to justify the fact by making excuses for the current administration instead of admitting that the fact is true.

You keep talking about "facts", but all you've presented is one youtube dude under the banner of a discredited click bait news venue that has figured out how to monetize your xenophobia and a bunch of stuff off the top of your head without any citation - as if we'd believe either.

Here are some actual figures.

What we know about unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S.

The unauthorized immigrant population in the U.S. grew to 11 million in 2022, but remained below the peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

www.pewresearch.org

Wanna know the juicy bit? The illegal immigrant population had been declining steadily until 2019. 2019 is when this upward trend began. 2019. You can't even blame covid.

2019... tsk.

I'll expect the usual smug condescension in the face of actual facts. Sorry I didn't have a garbage click bait source to quote, I know that's your preferred lens.

 

[LouC]

The fact is, no President in the last 70 years or more has ever left the border as wide open to all forms of illegal crossings as the current administration.

That just isn't at all true. You are promoting a blatant Right Wing lie.

 

[Jason Warfield]

If I lived in Arizona, I think I would be more ticked off at Trump for insisting that the GOP kill a bill that could have at least helped a little with this issue knowing that it was killed to give Trump political points for the future.

 

[rahl]

The fact is, no President in the last 70 years or more has ever left the border as wide open to all forms of illegal crossings as the current administration.

It is exactly as open as it has been for the past several decades.

 

[rahl]

The stats? How about more than 10 million illegal aliens allowed to enter the US in less than four years?

How about Biden deporting more illegals than Trump did?

 

[rahl]

Irrelevant.

It's still more than any other President.

So are the deportations. Whoops lol

 

[Mycroft]

How about Biden deporting more illegals than Trump did?

So are the deportations. Whoops lol

If Biden somehow managed to deport one tenth of the number he let in, that would be more than Trump deported...but that still leaves 9 million that he let in over four years. That's more than any other President in the last 70 years or so.

 

[rahl]

If Biden somehow managed to deport one tenth of the number he let in, that would be more than Trump deported...but that still leaves 9 million that he let in over four years. That's more than any other President in the last 70 years or so.

Biden has depoeted more illegals in less than 4 years than Trump did in all 4 years. Biden’s economy is better than trumps which is why illegal immigration is higher. The border is exactly as open as it has been for the past 7 decades.

Don’t you ever get tired of face planting after so many hilariously and demonstrably false threads you start?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

It doesn't matter what ultimately happens to those 10 million illegal aliens.

You do not care about the not 10M people.

We are talking about the fact that 10 million were allowed to just walk across our border and into our country.

You do care about the not 10M people.

I wish you would make up your mind.

If you don't care about the not 10M, and you don't care about how the asylum process works, then I will leave you with your befuddlement over a made-up number.

Almost every rightwinger I have encountered recently just absolutely refuses to deal with reality, and they don't deal with it badly.