Arizona AG says state can cite ‘invasion’ to deport migrants without feds

[PeacefulWarrior]

Arizona's AG has made a legal determination that it's being invaded and will bypass Biden who has opened the border to illegals. The governor is dragging his heels on this but public opinion will force him to do the right thing. Texas will likely do the same and soon all of Biden's illegals will have to funnel through California.



"Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich claims in a new legal opinion that Republican Gov. Doug Ducey can declare the Grand Canyon State to be under “invasion” in order to begin deporting suspected illegal immigrants — but Ducey appears reluctant to do so.

The approach would theoretically allow Arizona to break with the Biden administration and start turning away people at the US-Mexico border, where officials made approximately 1.9 million arrests last year."

Arizona AG says state can cite ‘invasion’ to deport migrants without feds

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich claims that Republican Gov. Doug Ducey can declare the Grand Canyon State to be under “invasion” in order to begin deporting suspected illegal imm…

nypost.com

How many armored columns and landing craft are coming across the Rio Grande?

 

[US&THEM]

What part of what I said isn't registering?

The bs you are trying to say is in the Constitution.

 

[BlueTex]

Yes. What does that have to do with the idea of a sanctuary city?

Tucson, for example, is not a sanctuary city, but it will also not do the work of the CBP, nor allow the CBP to use their facilities.

That's one of the problems with the whole "sanctuary city" meme... It's just a right wing talking point...

 

[Luce]

The bs you are trying to say is in the Constitution.

So your argument is that the federal government is not in control of national borders, but individual states are?

Is that your final answer?

 

[BlueTex]

More to the point, a state cannot build a border wall.

Sure they can.. we are in Texas... The problem of course is they can't build on FEDERAL property without the approval of the federal government... Same with private property without using state eminent domain powers which would very likely fail...

 

[Common Sense 1]

Oh, is Fox telling you people that their showing up in caravans of tanks and leveling towns on the way through?

Fox or Trump.....
Over and over the same silly response?

 

[US&THEM]

So your argument is that the federal government is not in control of national borders, but individual states are?

Is that your final answer?

What does this have to do with your original bs about Sanctuary Cities? Zero

 

[Common Sense 1]

It should concern the citizens of Arizona that their attorney general has either lost his mind or is an idiot.

The Biden administration needs to faithfully enforce our immigration laws.
They are failing miserably to protect the country from illegal aliens bum rushing the border everyday!

 

[Luce]

What does this have to do with your original bs about Sanctuary Cities? Zero

I was responding to your post replying to my comment about border walls.

Please attempt to be more coherent.

 

[US&THEM]

I was responding to your post replying to my comment about border walls.

Please attempt to be more coherent.

When you are I will follow

 

[Luce]

When you are I will follow

I will try to type slower in the future if that will help you.

 

[US&THEM]

The Biden administration needs to faithfully enforce our immigration laws.
They are failing miserably to protect the country from illegal aliens bum rushing the border everyday!

Record number of border arrest 1.4 million.

 

[US&THEM]

I will try to type slower in the future if that will help you.

Feel free to explain you sanctuary city bs

 

[rahl]

Arizona's AG has made a legal determination that it's being invaded and will bypass Biden who has opened the border to illegals. The governor is dragging his heels on this but public opinion will force him to do the right thing. Texas will likely do the same and soon all of Biden's illegals will have to funnel through California.



"Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich claims in a new legal opinion that Republican Gov. Doug Ducey can declare the Grand Canyon State to be under “invasion” in order to begin deporting suspected illegal immigrants — but Ducey appears reluctant to do so.

The approach would theoretically allow Arizona to break with the Biden administration and start turning away people at the US-Mexico border, where officials made approximately 1.9 million arrests last year."

Arizona AG says state can cite ‘invasion’ to deport migrants without feds

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich claims that Republican Gov. Doug Ducey can declare the Grand Canyon State to be under “invasion” in order to begin deporting suspected illegal imm…

nypost.com

and the supreme court said, nope

 

[Mr Person]

The supremacy clause and article I.

Not really. Naturalization is in fact one of the powers granted to the legislative branch by article I, sec 8.

Except those powers do not permit the federal government to force state officials to enforce federal law. It's been addressed in the courts.

A so-called "sanctuary city" cannot lawfully block federal law enforcement from coming in to sweep up illegals and criminals, but it can lawfully say "nah, I'm not doing that. You can." to the feds.

And there are valid reasons. For example, it's been found that witnesses to and victims of crime don't come forward because ICE watches court cases, and will send people to haul them away as they leave the courthouse. As between someone committing the federal civil infraction of being unlawfully present and someone who did an armed robbery or murder, I want arrest of the latter prioritized. I don't want to see violent criminals getting away scot free simply because witnesses/victims won't cooperate.

 

[rahl]

He will do it if he wants elected again.

He has no ability to. States can not deport foreign nationals. Only the FEDS can.

 

[rahl]

immediate deportation upon being caught crossing the border would be a relatively simple matter.

yet states are not able to do it. the constitution prevents them.

 

[Luce]

Except those powers do not permit the federal government to force state officials to enforce federal law. It's been addressed in the courts.

You're correct. What it means is that states cannot make or enforce immigration standards, one way or the other.

A so-called "sanctuary city" cannot lawfully block federal law enforcement from coming in to sweep up illegals and criminals, but it can lawfully say "nah, I'm not doing that. You can." to the feds.

Also correct. Although the example I gave was Tucson, which has stated that it is not a sanctuary city, but rather a city which will not assist or cooperate with federal immigration officials.

I guess we're coming down to "define 'sanctuary city'".

And there are valid reasons. For example, it's been found that witnesses to and victims of crime don't come forward because ICE watches court cases, and will send people to haul them away as they leave the courthouse. As between someone committing the federal civil infraction of being unlawfully present and someone who did an armed robbery or murder, I want arrest of the latter prioritized. I don't want to see violent criminals getting away scot free simply because witnesses/victims won't cooperate.

Another valid reason is that cities don't get extra funding for doing the federal government's work for them.

 

[anatta]

It's a steady flow now, one big long caravan.

indeed. 1.9 million encounters + 500k "get aways" last year alone

 

[CaughtInThe]

LOL

 

[anatta]

I dont know how they do it. Tex has has been trying. they built a partial border fence, they've used trucks to make a "wall"
and they have arrested many on "trespassing" - but I dont know how they can deport them.

Biden is determined to break ICE, allow open borders without criminal checks, vaxxing or innoculation for communicable disease.
About the only way to stop him is impeachment -but Congressional Dems support this crap

 

[rahl]

I dont know how they do it. Tex has has been trying. they built a partial border fence, they've used trucks to make a "wall"
and they have arrested many on "trespassing" - but I dont know how they can deport them.

They can't.

Biden is determined to break ICE, allow open borders without criminal checks, vaxxing or innoculation for communicable disease.

Why do you think making shit up is a valid argument?

About the only way to stop him is impeachment -but Congressional Dems support this crap

Making shit up doesn't change reality.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Except those powers do not permit the federal government to force state officials to enforce federal law. It's been addressed in the courts.

A so-called "sanctuary city" cannot lawfully block federal law enforcement from coming in to sweep up illegals and criminals, but it can lawfully say "nah, I'm not doing that. You can." to the feds.

And there are valid reasons. For example, it's been found that witnesses to and victims of crime don't come forward because ICE watches court cases, and will send people to haul them away as they leave the courthouse. As between someone committing the federal civil infraction of being unlawfully present and someone who did an armed robbery or murder, I want arrest of the latter prioritized. I don't want to see violent criminals getting away scot free simply because witnesses/victims won't cooperate.

yet states are not able to do it. the constitution prevents them.

Arizona AG disagrees with you.

 

[anatta]

They can't.

Why do you think making shit up is a valid argument?

Making shit up doesn't change reality.

why dont you try refutation instead of an ad hom? Immigration law/enforcement is complex

Biden's DHS Is Abolishing ICE Without Abolishing ICE

It is not as if ICE officials had untrammeled authority to grab whomever they wanted off of the street under Trump. ICE could only arrest, detain, and remove aliens your elected representatives said that they could arrest, detain, and remove.

cis.org

 

[Luce]

Arizona AG disagrees with you.

Arizona AG is a hack who can't seem to understand the US constitution.