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Incorrect. I have never called anyone racist.
Will rats infest Phoenix after the weeds and grass get too tall?
From the way it appears....Arizona is already infested by a lot of rats.
And here are yours
The only place your "reconquista" has the slightest amount of pull is in academic seminars hosted by the likes of Armando Navarro, without any influence on the public. It's also an idle thought among Mexican nationalists without any actual program or substance behind it, as is the "we stole this land from the Indians" mentality among many U.S. citizens. It's just recognized as a tragedy of the past.
I've explained in great detail in the past to texmaster why immigrants would be hostile to his "reconquista" idea, but that has never stopped him from repeating asinine conspiracy theories or the gullible from swallowing them. The central reason centers around race. The majority of illegal Mexican immigrants are Indians of full and mixed-blooded descent, some of them not even speaking Spanish. While Mexicans are inaccurately regarded as a racial rather than a national group in the United States, the Indians are the racial underclass of the country, and whites and mestizos with a white mentality the upper class. Political administration of the country is dominated by whites such as former Mexican president Vicente Fox.
Conversely, illegal immigrants are generally Indians, such as this Mixtec laborer from Oaxaca, one of the most heavily Indian states in the country:
The Indian population of the country is at odds with the white population of the country, as is so often the case throughout America and all of the states that exist on the continents. The Zapatista insurrection in the southernmost Mexican state of Chiapas began as a violent uprising of Tzotzil Mayans against the Mexican government. Why, then, would Indians want to extend the political and administrative authority of the government whose influence they are deliberately avoiding over wherever they have left to?
Of course but he is taking it a step further claiming his racial ties make any enforcement of immigration law illegal against "his" people. I and most of the people in here who support the law support enforcement against all illegals regardless of their heritage or race.
The real racism is assuming all Hispanics are pro illegal immigration and the ignorance is assuming all illegals are Hispanic.
I've refuted this asinine nonsense in considerable detail, and you've ran away each time.
Here's a dosage of my latest comment:
At this point, your comments consist of repetitive contradiction. A bot can do that. :2wave:
This is a lie. I have said that I am very willing to have a debate about immigration policies based on their consequences, i.e. whether restriction and purges would have more beneficial consequences on the economy and other aspects of society than amnesty and decriminalization or vice-versa.
I've mentioned the fact that American territory (in all American countries, not just the U.S.!), was unjustly acquired through a combination of force and fraud. Incidentally, that includes Mexico, which is the basis for the Indian insurrections in the south of that country. Mexico"? The territory of the Southwest has never belonged to Mexico; it was unjustly acquired by the Spanish, and then "governed" by those of Spanish descent in the Mexican government after their revolution. It was not their land to sell any more than Napoleon had the right to sell the Louisiana Territory.
But I am not willing to simply accept the U.S. nationalist's claim of absolute moral sovereignty over U.S. territory.
I accept that the government is here to stay, and don't simply stubbornly resist every government action for the purpose of expediency.
But I don't delude myself by pretending that governmental authority was not gained over American territory by unjust aggression against and dispossession of the indigenous residents of the Americas. I do not pretend that they have some kind of absolute right to tell Indians where and how to migrate on Indian land. So I urge a paradigm shift so that we focus on consequences instead of petty nationalism.
Areopagitician was far more on-target than you are. It seems that after repeated explanations, it cannot be hammered through your head that Hispanics are not a race. They are an assortment of Spanish-speaking national groups, and can be of any race, which is why white Cubans, Argentines, Uruguayans, etc., will by unsympathetic to the issues of Indian Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Salvadorans. Argentines are rather hostile towards the Indian Bolivians that emigrate to the country. Perhaps you should go there and explain the concept of "Hispanics" to them? :rofl
Not only have you never refuted it, you've reinforced it.
At its core, the claim of the Reconquista (‘Reconquest’) movement is that the United States stole large sections of the southwestern United States from Mexico in the 1800s. Mexicans and other Hispanics making these claims seek to reconquer this territory by taking the land away from the United States and returning it to Mexico. The goal of the Reconquista is to ‘reconquer’ these ‘lost’ or ‘stolen’ territories for ‘La Raza‘—the race indigenous to Mexico.
How will the Reconquista be accomplished? Today, millions of Mexican illegal immigrants are pouring into the United States. None of these illegal aliens are checked in any way. They live in the United States while swearing their allegiance to Mexico. By their sheer presence and numbers, those in the Reconquista movement believe that a time will come when they can take political control of local communities where Hispanics are the majority. The ultimate dream of the Reconquista movement is that political control can be gained in one or more southwestern states. Reconquista activists plan that the states controlled by Mexican immigrants would secede from the United States and join Mexico, much as the southern states seceded during the American Civil War and formed the Confederacy.
As preposterous as this seems, the Reconquista agenda has been pushed by the left for decades. Maps of Aztlan are drawn, incorporating large sections of the U.S. southwest and the theory that the U.S. stole the southwest from Mexico is actively taught by Leftists in Mexico as well as in ‘Hispanic studies’ programs in U.S. schools. Those in the Reconquista movement understand the ‘Trojan Horse invasion’ for exactly what it is. They plan to exploit America’s generosity to the fullest, all the while mocking us. The goal is for illegal aliens to get citizenship for themselves and their children so that they can eventually vote to return to Mexico large sections of the American southwest.
All I have to do is look at what you post my Reconquista friend:
This is what you believe. You've made it clear many times over. Pretending this isn't what the Aztlans stand for is to ignore the truth. Pretend all you want, your own words and pictures tell the story of your own racism quite well.
LOL That is the lie. You have stated our laws should not be enforced because this isn't our land. Your pathetic attempts at circuventing your own thoughts speak volumes.
You are the one misrepresenting the truth. You are the one promoting race over nation. And once again it is your own words that out you.
LOL Yet you just claimed you are interested in a debate on immigration policies. How can you lie like this and expect no one to see it?
No you don't since you can't even admit they are the ruling authority on the land they control. Just another lie.
There you go again. You can't have it both ways. You can't pretend to accept the nation you live in while claiming it is illegal for them to control their own borders. Thats the Aztlan in you again coming out.
Wow you grow more demented with every posting. I unlike you support the laws of the United States. You see the United States and an illegal force occupying land just like the Reconquista and La Raza crowd see it. That way you can ignore the laws on the books because you don't think they apply to your people. You represent the worst form of racism but continue denying it if you wish. We will simply read your own words back to you.
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