To all legal Arizona hispanic residents: We must fight peacefully this travesty of justice no matter how long it takes. We can do this in a number of ways. First don't answer ANY questions that pertain to your legal status in this country. Don't carry ANY type of documentation with you AT ANY TIME untill this thing is repealed. Third, speak to the officer ONLY in SPANISH. Lets have as many legal citizens arrested under this law as we can. Remember, they won't give you ANY civil rights unless you fight for them, just ask our African-American friends.
Another question is how much safer will Arizonans be with new law being enforced …
“The Arizona immigration law will likely hinder federal law enforcement from carrying out its priorities of detaining and removing dangerous criminal aliens. With the strong support of state and local law enforcement, I vetoed several similar pieces of legislation as Governor of Arizona because they would have diverted critical law enforcement resources from the most serious threats to public safety and undermined the vital trust between local jurisdictions and the communities they serve. I support and am actively working with bipartisan members of Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform at the federal level because this issue cannot be solved by a patchwork of inconsistent state laws.” — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Gov. Jan Brewer's predecessor as Arizona governor†
Wow! Just, wow! This bill is a colossal error.
As they can check your id in such cases, why do they need a law to check id, in which they already have the legal right to do so?And probable cause is a requirement. Read the law again.
which is exactly what the law says.
Or if I am doing something illegal, (that the police have probable cause to believe so, and not just because of my ethnicity)So in your mind you should never ever have to prove who you are unless you are doing something voluntary.
Exactly how does that make sense?
And please cite the law you are quoting that makes this true. Can't wait to see this one
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
LOL... the Euros have been pretty quite in this thread.
Good reason. They can and do racial profile.
They can stop you without any cause and demand your papers.
In your car, on foot, in public transport. Happens ALL DAY, everyday.
Well, if Paco ain't speeky engi too goood man, it's one indication... for a perfessionali trained oefficer ov de lew. Two perhaps:
1. Public skoolz suck big dicks.
2. It's likely he is an illegal. That's a prubbuble cuss.
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t r u t h o u t | Behind The Arizona Immigration Law: GOP Game to Swipe the November ElectionOur investigation in Arizona discovered the real intent of the show-me-your-papers law.
Phoenix - Don't be fooled. The way the media plays the story, it was a wave of racist, anti-immigrant hysteria that moved Arizona Republicans to pass a sick little law, signed last week, requiring every person in the state to carry papers proving they are US citizens.
I don't buy it. Anti-Hispanic hysteria has always been as much a part of Arizona as the saguaro cactus and excessive air-conditioning.
What's new here is not the politicians' fear of a xenophobic "Teabag" uprising.
What moved GOP Governor Jan Brewer to sign the Soviet-style show-me-your-papers law is the exploding number of legal Hispanics, US citizens all, who are daring to vote - and daring to vote Democratic by more than two-to-one. Unless this demographic locomotive is halted, Arizona Republicans know their party will soon be electoral toast. Or, if you like, tortillas.
If you are not naturalized you are already required to carry your immigration documents.
Are there actually any legal distinctions between an alien and a immigrant?
"Racial profiling." Those magic words which work so well within the media and the political system. We also refer to it as the "race card."…As I see it, these are legitimate measures being proposed to deal with a serious problem facing this country, and the usual suspects oppose it by using the "race card." And who gives power to the "race card"? "Anti-racists," of course.
In my opinion illegals have no rights under the US constitution. Just the fact they set foot on American soil makes them at the least trespassers. If not foreign invaders. In my state of Oklahoma any amount of force up to deadly force can be used to remove a trespasser. Which is a right of any Oklahoma citizen. Not just law enforcement. Read the laws I am sure most all states have about the same trespassing laws as Oklahoma.
The anti-Indian legislation is a fascist measure. It’s not surprising that it finds its primary support on the white supremacist forum Stormfront, where the rhetoric in favor of it is indistinguishable from that here.
Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Stormfront
Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Page 2 - Stormfront
:rofl
While reading on this subject, I ran across this article. Just another view of what Arizona Republicans may really be up to. And, interesting enough, Karl Rove's name popped up. Son of a gun. :lol:
t r u t h o u t | Behind The Arizona Immigration Law: GOP Game to Swipe the November Election
This may have nothing to do with immigration. It may be all about politics after all. Tom DeLay type politics. Interesting.
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- At a vigil protesting the passage of Arizona's tough new illegal immigration law, a young man in Army fatigues and a beret lit a candle at a makeshift shrine.
Pfc. Jose Medina, an Army medic, came to the Arizona capitol while on leave, to express his sadness over the law, signed by Arizona's governor on Friday.
"I'm here because this is something that's close to my heart," said Medina. "I went off to protect this country, to protect my family. That's what hurts."
State's new immigration law worries Arizona soldier
State's new immigration law worries Arizona soldier - CNN.com
Ah, yes! If for no other reason than is illustrated by that YouTube video, these illegal aliens should be turned back before they have the power to turn this country into a banana republic, like that which they came from!
Your statement was nearly identical to that of the white supremacists on Stormfront. My statements have been strongly opposed to the establishment of Mexican political authority over the U.S. Southwest. But whatever works in your world. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Arizonian resources being used for Arizonian purposes?
Full speed ahead, in my opinion.
At its core, the claim of the Reconquista (“Reconquest”) movement is that the United States stole large sections of the southwestern United States from Mexico in the 1800s. Mexicans and other Hispanics making these claims seek to reconquer this territory by taking the land away from the United States and returning it to Mexico. The goal of the Reconquista is to “reconquer” these “lost” or “stolen” territories for “La Raza”—the race indigenous to Mexico.
I didn't want to open "your" link (nothing against you just fear if it is safe -linkophobia) can you tell us someting about this "truthout"?
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I am approaching this Arizona law with due caution but I was more concerned initially with the application of this law than the intent. Though I can see this as a wedge issue in that most reasonable people are against illegal immigration the atmosphere that this sets in motion is an anti-immigrant attitude in general.
Not bad at all for a middle of the roader!
....It was those ruling classes that created the "banana republics....
Interesting topic of voting since you said that most "Mexican"-Americans voted for Dems I recall that certain Republicans claim that illrgal aliens vote in lage numbers. Anyone aware of factual sources for such stats? I mean something other than the Nazi Partier Daily Gazzzeten ?
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