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Aren't most of these Blue?

Overitall said:
So you're only vilifying those who didn't get vaccinated during the delta variant. Why didn't you say so in the first place?
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I've personally been saying this, or something similar, in nearly every post throughout my contributions to this thread.
 
trixare4kids said:
How it spread in red states like FL. obviously matters to you a whole lot....
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Really? Why on earth would you think that? I'm fairly confident it doesn't spread differently in any State, Province, Country than any other one.
 
trixare4kids said:
I've gone back from the beginning of the pandemic, and in defense of both presidents, (Trump and Biden), is it any wonder this country finds itself in a big pickle as far as Covid goes with Dr. Fauci steering the ship.
I digress, but for anyone who is interested...

This guy needs a mask just to curb him from talking out of both sides of his mouth....
Dr. Fauci says he warned Trump in January that the US was in real trouble but that is not what he said publicly.
In January Dr. Anthony Fauci told Newsmax TV that the United States “did not have to worry” about the coronavirus and that it was “not a major threat.”
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That was one the early times I thought the man was an idiot.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
While these people are being detained by Americans,
should the Americans treat them as humans?

Or no?

If the Americans are going to treat the people as human, then the Americans will have to provide food, shelter, etc. just like Heisenberg said.
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Yeah, we can't just let them hang out in a field somewhere, can we. But I will tell you this: I would get them out of this country ASAP.
Would you rather have them stay here until their hearing? Thats the only alternative I can think of.
 
Mongidig said:
When everyone is wearing a high quality mask properly they work. This along with keeping your distance from people. Just because a location has a mask mandate doesn’t mean people are complying or doing it right. It’s been a massive fail by the government not to make n95’s or Kn95’s more easily available.
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It's also been a massive fail when you don't have the democrats following their own rules.
 
trixare4kids said:
How it spread in red states like FL. obviously matters to you a whole lot....
Callen said:
Really? Why on earth would you think that? I'm fairly confident it doesn't spread differently in any State, Province, Country than any other one.
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Because your posts prove it.
 
trixare4kids said:
Sad you didn't pick up the sarcastic tone and purpose of the thread. I thought the tone was crystal clear when I wrote, "I thought it was all the stupid people in the red states that were getting Covid. According to my source, that's not true."
This forum predominately blames the unvaccinated Trump, Republican, cult voters who live in Red states for the explosion and continuation of the pandemic.
That's a willful lie.
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Don't be sad.
You probably have convinced some people it's the unvaccinated Trump, Republican, cult voters who live in blue states who are responsible for the explosion and continuation of the pandemic.
I guess?

I am still curious why you think the red and blue matter here.

trixare4kids said:
Hence....
It's only right that I point out the shallow thinking of those who think like they do by blaming blue states for record covid hospitalizations.
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It'd be a stronger case if you could name your strawman or link to your strawman's post.
But there's no rule against raging against things you feel like a vague group of people are saying.

trixare4kids said:
I see you didn't like it because I didn't use stats, and you're correct to do that, but somehow it's forgiven for those who continue to assign almost all the blame to red state, right wing inhabitants without the benefit of them having any proof at all for what they allege.
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Well, as per my obligation, I do read and quote every single post on DP which I disagree with.
So, every time I did not respond to a post, it's because I forgave the poster (or the post?)
(not really)


Do you believe that everyone must use their political opinion as a part of their identity?
Wouldn't that make it harder to change your opinion when you get new information?
 
roguenuke said:
You quote from "redstate". And expect to be taken seriously on this thread?
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So go ahead and prove what I am quoting from them isn't true.... I'll gladly wait. :)

President Donald Trump was in office, Joe Biden took every effort to blame all the COVID deaths on him.

But now that Biden is in office and there have been more deaths under Biden than there were under Trump, even with vaccines and treatments, Biden and the media are strangely silent about those numbers. Biden is, of course, not taking any responsibility for those numbers/
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But White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked by Fox’s Peter Doocy about Biden’s prior comments on the subject attacking President Trump, when there were 220,000 COVID deaths, that “anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States.”
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Ethel2 said:
Yeah, we can't just let them hang out in a field somewhere, can we. But I will tell you this: I would get them out of this country ASAP.
Would you rather have them stay here until their hearing? Thats the only alternative I can think of.
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If we sent them out of the country before their hearing, wouldn't that make it harder to get them to show up for their hearing?

Or should Americans punish people without due process because it saves a buck?
 
Mongidig said:
When everyone is wearing a high quality mask properly they work. This along with keeping your distance from people. Just because a location has a mask mandate doesn’t mean people are complying or doing it right. It’s been a massive fail by the government not to make n95’s or Kn95’s more easily available.
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so, the blue states just don't wear those masks right? Any evidence of that? Or is this just more made-up nonsense?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Don't be sad.
You probably have convinced some people it's the unvaccinated Trump, Republican, cult voters who live in blue states who are responsible for the explosion and continuation of the pandemic.
I guess?

I am still curious why you think the red and blue matter here.
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You've inadvertently just stated the entire point for the thread.
It shouldn't, it doesn't but it does MATTER to many forum leftists, and leftwing partisans in general, who continue to scapegoat red states, former presidents and possible future presidents who live in red states, cultists living in red states, Republicans living in red states, Evangelicals living in red states for the pandemic. I just pointed out the error of their thinking by blaming blue states for the record numbers of Covid hospitalizations. That's it... the entire purpose for the thread premise. And now we are evolving into other areas and discussions and that's quite okay with me.
 
Overitall said:
It must have gotten lost in all the Trump and Republicans are bad, bad people.
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Well, they were -- with respect to the collective behavior of those who refused to get vaccinated ... during the Delta wave...
 
Simon W. Moon said:
If we sent them out of the country before their hearing, wouldn't that make it harder to get them to show up for their hearing?

Or should Americans punish people without due process because it saves a buck?
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Remember: we are talking about people trying to enter the country ILLEGALLY. We owe the a hearing and humane treatment until we can return them to wherever they came from. Nothing else. Yes, it will make it more difficult for them to attend their hearing. Too bad. Next time they should try the legal route.
 
Paradoxical said:
WTF, It is the title of this OP? Are you effing SERIOIUS!??
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Yes, blue states are those that typically vote Democrat in the majority.

Majority != 100%

Majority >= 50.1%
 
Paradoxical said:
so, the blue states just don't wear those masks right? Any evidence of that? Or is this just more made-up nonsense?
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I’m just trying to help you all understand this better. I have a way of breaking things to make them simple to learn. Unfortunately many of you got caught up learning bad information. This will take some time to re-educate but I think we can get there. It’s tough to break away from all the Q stuff and nonsense right wing media teaches you.

Click on my past posts. There is a treasure trove of information. The good news is I’m not part of a blue or red team. I deal with only facts and things as they are. .
 
Callen said:
It's not complicated. I dont think we can interpret the first diagnosed case as the definitive origin within the States. However, if you wish to that's OK. None of any our opinions change things one iota.
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Yet here we are discussing our opinions. It seems to be the opinion of some that if they can shame someone who voted for Trump or lives in a Red State into getting a vaccine then it will change things. Please tell them that their opinion will not change things one iota. Then we won't see anymore threads dancing on the graves of those that have died from covid.
 
Mongidig said:
I’m just trying to help you all understand this better. I have a way of breaking things to make them simple to learn. Unfortunately many of you got caught up learning bad information. This will take some time to re-educate but I think we can get there. It’s tough to break away from all the Q stuff and nonsense right wing media teaches you.

Click on my past posts. There is a treasure trove of information. The good news is I’m not part of a blue or red team. I deal with only facts and things as they are. .
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I'll take a pass on that. Never did like koolaid.
 
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