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Aren't most of these Blue?

W_Heisenberg said:
And whatever we did with respect to Delta doesn't matter with respect to Omicron. There is no reason to expect that any mitigation efforts against Delta would impact the spread of Omicron today.
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So you're saying we should shut everything down, right?

If this were a headline during the last administration, your head would have exploded:
news.yahoo.com

Fauci says CDC cut isolation time so people return to work faster

President Biden's chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci on Monday said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) decision to cut its recommended isolation time for people infected with COVID-19 who are asymptomatic will allow people to get back to work more quickly. The decision comes...
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trixare4kids said:
Oh look, a pretty colored partisan graph that further divides us by politics and religion... LOL
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I can't think of anything more divisive than refusing to get vaccinated during the middle of the worse pandemic in over 100 years for political reasons. And you expect everyone else to pretend Trump supporters and Republicans did not act like assholes. I am the one that should be writing, "LOL." They should be criticized because they behaved poorly.

trixare4kids said:
The fact remains, when you cherry picked and assigned full-on blame to White Republicans and Evangelicals and Trump voters
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I do not believe Trump supporters and Republicans should be assigned "full-on" blame for refusing to get vaccinated. I think they should be assigned most of the blame. Why? Look at the image I showed you..

trixare4kids said:
you defeat your own argument by not mentioning other groups; Uninsured under age 65, rural residents, ages 18-29, ages 30-39, Hispanic adults, Black adults, and Independents.
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Include them too. I have never suggested otherwise. They are responsible as well. But if you look at the data, it clearly shows, the people most responsible for refusing to get vaccinated are your political allies: Republicans, Trump Supporters, Evangelicals, and Rural residents. And there is reason for that. Fox news, OANN, Newsmax, Evangelical churches and television shows, a crazy relative's facebook page, AM Radio, etc. they all pushed an anti-vax propaganda campaign, from the very beginning. And they are still doing it. And people on this forum are still doing it as well. It hasn't stopped.

And to say that is to speak the truth.
 
trixare4kids said:
Frankly, there is little in the way of substance to any of your arguments.
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And yet, when I wrote about my irritation at Trump supporters contributing to the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people dying from Covid-19 due to the anti-vax propaganda and general anti-vax attitude of Trump supporters you posted an animated gif of a girl laughing.
 
trixare4kids said:
We could slice and dice that irony with a dull butter knife.... :giggle:

Btw, no matter what state one lives in, I sincerely wish all the hospitalized a speedy recovery.

I made the thread to set the record straight. The lies need to stop about the vaccine resistant living predominately in red states.
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The vaccine resistant DO live primarily in red states. Getting vaccinated, unfortunately, reduces your chance of infection only a bit. It greatly reduces the chance that an infection will put you in the hospital.
These are facts.
 
Taylor said:
So you're saying we should shut everything down, right?

If this were a headline during the last administration, your head would have exploded:
news.yahoo.com

Fauci says CDC cut isolation time so people return to work faster

President Biden's chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci on Monday said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) decision to cut its recommended isolation time for people infected with COVID-19 who are asymptomatic will allow people to get back to work more quickly. The decision comes...
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
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Does that even have science backing it up? If it does it very conveniently was discovered when the economic numbers tanked and staff shortages are becoming a problem. But what did they expect when they fired unvaccinated hcp who weren't infected? Did they really think their staff still on the payroll were never gonna catch the virus, thus requiring quarantine?
 
trixare4kids said:
Is this where you blame all the covid on the red states again?
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I blame the covidiots for creating the logjams at our hospitals. It is primarily those schmucks who are getting hospitalized and dying.
 
Overitall said:
It doesn't help that Faucet issued mixed messages regarding the effectiveness of masks and an entire industry was created of cloth masks that are about as good as covering your face with toilet paper.
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1. Get over it. For how long are you guys going to talk about this? No one's perfect. But why is that an excuse for Trump supporters and Republicans to behave poorly? And why is that an excuse for you to say nothing to your political allies about their bad behavior.

2. Fauci was talking about the personal risk of masks preventing a virus from infecting someone that came from other people, not the general reduction in risk amongst a population that is achieved when masks block virus particles from leaving the general vicinity of an infected person. Those are two different issues.

3. Fauci was clear he wanted the respirators saved for health professionals because they were on the front lines. He was very clear about that. But the right wing media, in their attempts to score political points, had to take Fauci out of context.

4. Yes, Fauci should have been more clear that respirators should be used in the future to reduce the rate of the spread of the virus in a population. But it doesn't matter anymore. His inability to act with 100% precision as a public health official in one particular moment in time does not change anything, nor does obsessing about it by making it a talking point you never stop talking about. It doesn't help.

Overitall said:
Then you had the current occupants of the WH sowing the seeds of doubt about the vaccines scheduled to be released during the former President's tenure.
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That's not true. They said they would listen to the scientists.

Stop lying please.



Also, again, as above, it doesn't matter. Trump supporters and Republicans don't stop having the personal responsibility to get vaccinated because YOU ARE MAD at something Biden or Kamala said. It's irrelevant.

Our duties as citizens do not cease to exist because of a Fox News clip!

Overitall said:
If you want to lay blame on anyone or thing look no further than the obsessive hatred of the former President. All that Biden was concerned about was winning by using a crisis to a political advantage. It worked and yet look where we are today. Did he stop the virus like he campaigned on? Hell no! But let's just blame the former President.
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It doesn't matter.

Biology doesn't care about your narrative.

The virus mutated.

Biden is not responsible for the virus mutating.

Biden's strategy was appropriate during the Delta wave because the vaccines were still effective at reducing the rate of the spread of the virus in our population.

And the vaccines are still useful because they still reduce the risk of hospitalization or death.

And despite everything wrong that you think Biden and Democrats have done, your political allies are still responsible for their own behavior!!!!
 
Paradoxical said:
Masked up = masks don't work. Blue states masked up.
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*sigh*

Do you really believe the same people who refuse to get vaccinated wear masks? Please provide your data to support this.
 
trixare4kids said:
Zing! ;)
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It's because blue states have gigantic cities with dense populations, and red states tend to have farms and ranches.

ZING!

Viruses don't spread as easily if your neighbor is 10 miles away as opposed to your neighbor being in an elevator next to you.

ZING!
 
Overitall said:
But what did they expect when they fired unvaccinated hcp who weren't infected? Did they really think their staff still on the payroll were never gonna catch the virus, thus requiring quarantine?
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I don't think they were doing much thinking at all. They've been stuck on stupid for months - focused exclusively on vaccinations with nothing to show for it but an unconstitutional regulation.

www.cnn.com

Biden is dogged by a testing shortage he had vowed to fix

President Joe Biden is closing out his first year in office facing one of the same problems he entered the White House vowing to fix: a persistent shortage of Covid-19 testing that, if resolved, could provide a way out of the still-raging pandemic.
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"I cannot believe this is where we are almost two years into the pandemic. Everybody saw it coming. We knew we needed more tests. I think the administration had dropped the ball on this," said Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University's School of Public Health. "They focused a lot on vaccines, which is terrific -- vaccines are a really, really important part of this -- but did not pay enough attention to testing. And I think it has been really costly in this holiday season."
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trixare4kids said:
A new record 132,646 Covid-19 hospitalizations in the US as of today... With the exception of MO. and OH, the other 9 states and the two territories are RED, or vote for Democrats. I thought it was all the stupid people in the red states that were getting Covid. According to my source, that's not true.


"(Reuters) - COVID-19 hospitalizations in the United States reached a record high on Monday, according to a Reuters tally, as a surge in infections caused by the highly contagious Omicron variant strains health systems in several states.

There were 132,646 people hospitalized with COVID, surpassing the record of 132,051 set in January last year.

Hospitalizations have increased steadily since late December, doubling in the last three weeks, as Omicron quickly overtook Delta as the dominant version of the virus in the United States.

Delaware, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Vermont, Virginia, Washington D.C., and Wisconsin have reported record levels of hospitalized COVID-19 patients recently, according to the Reuters analysis. "

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U.S. breaks COVID-19 hospitalization record at over 132,000 as Omicron surges

COVID-19 hospitalizations in the United States reached a record high on Monday, according to a Reuters tally, as a surge in infections caused by the highly contagious Omicron variant strains health systems in several states.
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For reference:
www.gkgigs.com

List Of Blue States And Red States In U.S. 2022 (Updated) - GkGigs

The Blue States And Red States Are Referred To As States Of The U.S. Whose Voters Mainly Choose Either Democratic Party (Blue) or Republican Party (Red)..
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It appears that in the case of omicron, both the public has tired of mitigation measures and they are not as effective anyway due to transmissibility, meaning public policy doesn't matter as much for this strain.
 
Taylor said:
I don't think they were doing much thinking at all. They've been stuck on stupid for months - focused exclusively on vaccinations with nothing to show for it but an unconstitutional regulatiob.
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Being able to virtue signal has become a required job qualification.
 
trixare4kids said:
How would you do that? Lock them all up, and throw them in the camps?
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I would demand either they admit what happened or allowed our investigators to find out what happened. I would demand a large settlement that would be distributed to our citizens for damages caused. If they didn't comply then prepare for "Shock and Awe!!!"
 
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