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You do know my left wing friend its a free country......If you don't like this poll then ignore it......thank you
I'm for life and for choice.
Can we get a more specific question?
That is even worse. Would you accept pro-rights and anti-rights? That is about what you did here.
I think it is pretty specific............can you explain your position.............you can't have it both ways.....
If don't approve of abortion don't have one. Leave everyone else the **** alone about it.
"If you don't approve of slavery, don't buy one."
Good enough for you?
Yes, that's the definition of 'spin'.That's how each group has labeled themselves to give their beliefs more of a positive tone in my opinion.I reject the terms Pro-life and Pro-choice as being inaccurate spin.
That is even worse. Would you accept pro-rights and anti-rights? That is about what you did here.
No more waffling Redress, your either pro life or pro choice.......
Nothing to do with rights especially if the mothers life is not endangered.......Its about the innocent defenseless baby in the womb who just wants the same chance at life you got..........But for the grace of God that could have been your mother aborting you Redress.........
No more waffling Redress, your either pro life or pro choice.......
I am pro-choice. When it comes to personhood the only thing I give a damn about is if the organism has a mind. Be it an embryo, a baby born without a brain, a brain-dead adult, or a corpse, if there is no mind then it is just a meat sack. Sorry if that comes across as blunt, but we can argue the semantics and legal definitions of "human life", "human being", or "person" but I don't give a damn about definitions. If it doesn't have a mind, if it isn't sentient, then it has as much claim to rights as a rock has.
Late term abortions are another story as a fully formed fetus has a developed brain and even dreams. It has a mind. In those cases I only believe abortion should be legal in cases where the mother's life is in danger. It's triage. And fortunately, it is rare.
I reject the terms Pro-life and Pro-choice as being inaccurate spin.
I go by evolution. If the organism is left to its own, how will it develop. Will it develop a brain? Then that's that. It's a creature capable of that, it's just us at an earlier stage in life. The brain is an important organ, sometimes a baby won't develop one. Evolution over at that point. Humans have always been about potential.
I don't care what it might be in the future or what it was in the past. I care what it is.
In that case, I can't see why you don't support "abortion" following birth either. A human newborn is not independent, it is not a significantly sentient entity, it is not a significantly sapient entity.
A human neonate is less aware of its surroundings and less capable of judgement than what you may have had for dinner last night.
My solution to this dilemma is quite simple, of course, a living human has intrinsic value; sapience is a hallmark of our species. It is not present at conception; it is not present at birth, but because we are a sapient species, all Homo sapiens have intrinsic value, and all should be equal in the eyes of the law.
I have yet to see the distinguished opposition present a cogent solution to the dilemma.
The honest answer would be probably "neither" or "somewhere in between."
I'm for life and for choice.
Can we get a more specific question?
It is significantly sentient for me. It has a mind. It senses its environment. It learns and remembers. Even a late stage fetus dreams. Yes, the thoughts are VERY rudimentary, but thought occurs nonetheless.
Not likely, since I am vegan.And not wanting to kill things with minds if I can avoid it is one of the reasons I am vegan.
See, technically, everyone would claim to favor "life" and "choice," which is part of why the terms pro-life and pro-choice are misleading and stupid.
Furthermore, there is no such thing as "personally anti-abortion, but..."
That is like saying "I would not personally buy a slave, but who other people choose to buy is none of my business." Such a person supports the legality of slavery. An abolitionist of slavery would not consider such a person to be an ally, literally or intellectually.
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