Are you happy that your mother decided NOT to Abort YOU !! [W:197, 1025]

[Lursa]

No it hasn't. it isn't illegal but it's still murder.

It's not murder if they have Down's syndrome or 'the gay gene?'

 

[Lursa]

But once implanted, it has an absolute right to stay there until it reaches FULL TERM no matter what stage in its development!

According to your 'friend' Sly, you can kill it if is mentally 'retarded' or might be gay (as 'the gay gene).

According to you, it's ok to kill it if it threatens the life of the mother. You never explained that either. You tried with 'self-defense,' but Ishot that down. No intent and the woman actually 'put it in there' according to your own beliefs (her 'fault).

 

[prometeus]

Sex may have other purposes, in your mind, but it's main purpose is procreation. Everybody knows that!

No, that is what ignorant zealots believe and want to push on others. Fact is that people **** far more often for other reasons than to procreate. You should try it sometime.

 

[Scrabaholic]

The Bible is very clear on killing. It's wrong, and it's a sin.

Then eating meat is a sin, I hope you are vegan.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Sorry, but you must have heard someone's opinion. Not a fact.

Evidently, you don't know what a fact is....

 

[Scrabaholic]

Biologically speaking he is correct. Sex may have other purposes, in your mind, but it's main purpose is procreation. Everybody knows that!

Did you even realize why sex is pleasurable before you disrespectfully asked him what century he lived in? It's pleasuable for the sole purpose of drawing two opposite sex mammels to have sex FOR PROCREATION!!!!!!

So? The mouth's main purpose is for eating, but we also use it for talking and for oral sex. I don't see anyone objecting to that.....

 

[Removable Mind]

Biologically speaking he is correct. Sex may have other purposes, in your mind, but it's main purpose is procreation. Everybody knows that!

Did you even realize why sex is pleasurable before you disrespectfully asked him what century he lived in? It's pleasuable for the sole purpose of drawing two opposite sex mammels to have sex FOR PROCREATION!!!!!!

And the gays seem to think it's just for them ha ha ha......

You are categorically wrong. Sex's primary function isn't for reproduction. If that were true there would be a Trillion people.

 

[RamFel]

According to your 'friend' Sly, you can kill it if is mentally 'retarded' or might be gay (as 'the gay gene).

According to you, it's ok to kill it if it threatens the life of the mother. You never explained that either. You tried with 'self-defense,' but Ishot that down. No intent and the woman actually 'put it in there' according to your own beliefs (her 'fault).

You shot that down???
Do tell. Was I crushed? Funny because I don't remember you ever shooting anything down.

I think if the young lady were in serious danger of dying if delivery were attempted, then I say abort.

But only under Doctor's orders.

 

[RamFel]

your faith based god has no legal standing in the untied states

Gods laws first, then man's law second.

 

[RamFel]

This makes about as much sense as your question in the OP...and your conclusion is just as nonsensical.

God's Law is based on faith, American law is based on our legal system. & the Constitution.

No one in America is bound by God's Law....just the American legal system. I know you know this.....so when you say you are using facts, it demonstrates sad, blind denial, not lack of knowlege.

Just like you cant figure out that if someone is happy they were born, they'd want everyone else to be born too. Certainly more logical than your silly conclusion that if you where happy you were born, you'd think it was just fine to 'kill the unborn now that you were safe.' How you ever came up with that, I'll never know. Just blindly agenda-driven I guess.

you obviously have no sense of true justice or compassion. Remember compassion? or is that just a distant memory? but think it through for a moment. If God says it"s MURDER, then it is murder. Are you going to tell God what laws you're going to obey?

US law is only temporary, Gods is for all time and forever. Man may kill your body, but not your soul.

Praise the LORD Jesus!

 

[RamFel]

No, that is what ignorant zealots believe and want to push on others. Fact is that people **** far more often for other reasons than to procreate. You should try it sometime.

I want to hear you claim that the purpose of sex is not procreation. I need more foolish talk to add to my list of liberal foolishness and nonsense.. I building a list of obvious liberal nonsense to put together a new post.


Go ahead. Say it.

 

[RamFel]

Then eating meat is a sin, I hope you are vegan.

Why do you insist on posting these silly things so that I can make fun of you?

You know what I am talking about, but you post nonsense in response.

 

[RamFel]

So? The mouth's main purpose is for eating, but we also use it for talking and for oral sex. I don't see anyone objecting to that.....

Do you want to join Prometheus in a claim that the main purpose for sex is NOT procreation? I need a new weapon against foolish logic, and that's as good as anything else I've heard.

 

[Scrabaholic]

you obviously have no sense of true justice or compassion. Remember compassion? or is that just a distant memory? but think it through for a moment. If God says it"s MURDER, then it is murder. Are you going to tell God what laws you're going to obey?

There is nowhere in the Bible where God says abortion is murder. Nowhere.

 

[RamFel]

You are categorically wrong. Sex's primary function isn't for reproduction. If that were true there would be a Trillion people.

That's three people who don't know what they're talking about. But you're the only one that I'm going to say this to..."the reason you think that the purpose of sex is NOT procreation is because it also proves that homosexuality is not natural".

You're are also on the list of PD members who also don't know what you're talking about. Three.

Anybody else?

 

[Scrabaholic]

Why do you insist on posting these silly things so that I can make fun of you?

You know what I am talking about, but you post nonsense in response.

Animals are killed for meat. You claim God says not to kill, therefore killing animals for meat would be a sin, if you were correct.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Do you want to join Prometheus in a claim that the main purpose for sex is NOT procreation? I need a new weapon against foolish logic, and that's as good as anything else I've heard.

Where did I say that? Evidently, you want to lie about people and what they say or don't say.

 

[minnie616]

You are categorically wrong. Sex's primary function isn't for reproduction. If that were true there would be a Trillion people.

I agree.


As far having babies goes babies could very well be considered an accidental by product of humans having sex since humans have sex even when there is no possibility of the female getting pregnant .

Dolphins ,monkeys, and humans have sex for pleasure but most other animals have it for procreation.

Most animals have sex purely for the purpose of reproduction.
The claim that dolphins have sex for pleasure is true for a very specific definition of "sex for pleasure,"
which is copulation between the male and female of a species not for the purpose of reproduction.


Most animals cannot afford to waste the energy that is put into the sexual act unless it leads to the production of offspring. For most animals, it seems that there is no biological advantage in engaging in sex when there is no possibility that their genes will be passed through the production of offspring.

Therefore, Females of most animal species give off detectable signals when they are fertile: a change in appearance, a distinctive smell, specific sounds or behaviors to signal to their partner that they are fertile. In fact, most females will push their mate away or ignore him when they are not fertile.

< SNIP>

But there is a difference between humans and animal in this aspect though.
Animals other than humans have no awareness that their sexual activities are connected with reproduction:

They engage in sex because they're biologically driven to do so,
and if the fulfillment of their urges produces a physical sensation we might "pleasure," it isn't the least bit affected by the possibility (or impossibility) of producing offspring.

UCSB Science Line sqtest



In other words it is NOT FACT that Procreation is the main reason for human sex.
It cannot be proved that is the reason people have sex.
Far more people use sex for pleasure than they use it for procreation.


Sex for pleasure

Humans, dolphins and certain types of monkeys are the only species that have sex for pleasure.

 

[RamFel]

There is nowhere in the Bible where God says abortion is murder. Nowhere.

But abortion is killing, isn't it? And if he says do not kill, I take it on faith that he includes abortion.

You are wrong again.

 

[RamFel]

Animals are killed for meat. You claim God says not to kill, therefore killing animals for meat would be a sin, if you were correct.

Playing dumb again, I see.

 

[RamFel]

Evidently, you don't know what a fact is....

I know fact. You don't.

Now, that's a fact.

 

[Lursa]

Gods laws first, then man's law second.

Not in this country...so again, your opinion does not = fact.

Denial, it's not just a river in Egypt.

 

[Lursa]

you obviously have no sense of true justice or compassion. Remember compassion? or is that just a distant memory? but think it through for a moment. If God says it"s MURDER, then it is murder. Are you going to tell God what laws you're going to obey?

US law is only temporary, Gods is for all time and forever. Man may kill your body, but not your soul.

Praise the LORD Jesus!

Still wrong...as usual.

I have loads of compassion...for the born. For women and children.

Not for something that does not require any compassion, as it has no awareness, no feeling of pain (for most of its development), and no guarantee of surviving gestation.

I certainly will not offer imaginary useless compassion for the unborn *at the cost of compassion for women and children.*

 

[blarg]

Gods laws first, then man's law second.

your god might just be made up and has nothing going for it except a might makes right attitude

and since theirs no apparent divine might ( which explains your persona on hear ) it lacks even that

so its your religious law that you want to impose on others to make yourself feel better not a gods law and not nay better then one

which im pretty sure is illegal so are actual laws based on reason come 1st and you get to say things on internet forums while people can chose to get abortions

and ranting about your magic sky daddy is not a good a compelling against doing so

 

[blarg]

you obviously have no sense of true justice or compassion. Remember compassion? or is that just a distant memory? but think it through for a moment. If God says it"s MURDER, then it is murder. Are you going to tell God what laws you're going to obey?

US law is only temporary, Gods is for all time and forever. Man may kill your body, but not your soul.

Praise the LORD Jesus!

your gods slave and he can do what he wants with you

your attitude is nether just nor compassionate there

the hole abortion is wrong because the unborn are little people stance is compassionate just not just or sensible

as the mind is what makes a person a person not dna